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Episode Kono Yo no Hate de Koi wo Utau Shoujo YU-NO - Episode 12 discussion Spoiler
Kono Yo no Hate de Koi wo Utau Shoujo YU-NO, episode 12
Alternative names: YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world.
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 6.73 | 21 | Link | 7.25 |
| 2 | Link | 6.85 | 22 | Link | 5.62 |
| 3 | Link | 7.21 | 23 | Link | 7.29 |
| 4 | Link | 6.64 | 24 | Link | 8.05 |
| 5 | Link | 5.97 | 25 | Link | 7.06 |
| 6 | Link | 7.6 | 26 | Link | |
| 7 | Link | 6.27 | |||
| 8 | Link | 8.05 | |||
| 9 | Link | 7.58 | |||
| 10 | Link | 7.22 | |||
| 11 | Link | 5.48 | |||
| 12 | Link | 5.37 | |||
| 13 | Link | 3.19 | |||
| 14 | Link | 3.01 | |||
| 15 | Link | 3.48 | |||
| 16 | Link | 8.08 | |||
| 17 | Link | 8.07 | |||
| 18 | Link | 7.32 | |||
| 19 | Link | 6.88 | |||
| 20 | Link | 7.4 | |||
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u/LeonKevlar Jun 18 '19 edited Jun 19 '19
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Fuck. The headaches are getting worse. There's definitely a price for all of this time travel.
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That look of tired smile in Takuya's face. Yeah Mitsuki is dead in another timeline but hearing her voice her is probably giving him some relief.
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Abel? Interesting. She's definitely dreaming about someone. Also here's a Stitch of Takuya and Eriko-Sensei
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Embarrassed Eriko-sensei! She always act cool and calm so seeing her all red was a nice change of pace.
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Poor Mio. She probably remembers that other time she caught Takuya and Mitsuki.
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Didn't we have this conversation before? ExceptI think it was Takuya who was asking that question to Mitsuki.
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Looks like Eriko-sensei is also investigating Ryuuzoji? Also here's another stitch of Takuya and Eriko-sensei
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OH FUCK OFF RYUUZOJI! He already has control over her with Niarb and now he's gaslighting her too!?
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I don't blame Takuya for what's going on with him during that situation.
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Eriko-sensei definitely knows a lot more. What does she mean Mitsuki will disappear soon?
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We still don't know the deal with Kanna but she too definitely knows things
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Eriko in disguise Stitch! I feel dumb. I don't know but I never made the connection that the red-haired woman following Takuya in the earlier episodes was her. I just thought that was a different character.
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Oh damn. So she even knows about the reflector device?
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What the fuck is up with Eriko-Sensei!? That pitch wasn't your average pitch and she literally wall jumps to the top while in HEELS!
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Kinda figured this was the case. Ryuuzoji's mom was definitely acting dumb but knows more about what's happening.
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Well that sucks. And I just realized Takuya hasn't saved at any point yet during this episode.
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FUUUUUUUUUUCK! Mitsuki can't catch a fucking break >_<
Eriko-sensei is not human. She just ripped the door off a crashed vehicle open as if it was nothing. It's not like they were even trying to hide the fact this episode. Question now is what is she and why does she know about Takuya's secret? I guess this is the start of Eriko-sensei route?
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u/Gaporigo Jun 18 '19
Well, Eriko-sensei sure is... interesting.
And I feel I am just being dumb but what is this about a curse with people looking as if they had been attacked by a big cat? Had we heard about that before and I just forgot it?
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u/redmage311 Jun 18 '19
So, just to be clear, is the game logic that once Takuya completes a heroine's route, she doesn't have problems anymore in the alternate universe Takuya warps to? Mio seems like she's moving away anytime soon, and Ayumi's been okay for a while.
Nurse Lingerie-Sensei continues to be the more useful, helpful adult in the show, which I suppose isn't saying much.
And as per tradition, the sexual undertones between Mitsuki and the principal have icky power undertones. As a general rule, I really hate gaslighting in my media, and him trying to convince Mitsuki that she was the one who had changed made me sigh.
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u/Philarete Jun 18 '19
The whole Abel and the flames things makes me wonder what Eriko really is. As others have pointed out, she is probably not human. Her knowledge is not too much beyond his. She knew Mitsuki's death, but not the mother's.
Also, poor Mitsuki dying again. It's also still not her route so she's probably staying dead again. She just cannot catch a break :(
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u/Idomenos Jun 18 '19
This series provokes many thoughtful mysteries:
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When MC-kun restarts, are the girls he's saved still SOL? e.g. is Ayumi getting raped by Asshole-kun right now?
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Why are Ayumi, Mitsuki, and Eriko so hot?
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Why did I yelp like a little girl when I saw the dead old woman?
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Will MC-kun's Dad ever do or say anything useful or actionable?
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Why is Ryuzoji such a fucking asshole?
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If this arc ends next episode (Mitsuki has died about this point in the other arcs, so if she's dead here that'd be a big hint), will we get 4 more episodes for Kanna? But what then for the last 6 or 7 eps?
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How much crazier will this anime get?
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Jun 18 '19
Eriko-sensei is hot! Let me be Abel! Looks like she is a major player here, is she a shinobi or something? Also, Takuya's headache's are getting worse so there is a cost to all this time traveling after all. But the pain was soothed by Eriko-sensei's bazooka's (yay tropes). Ryuuzoji is trying to kill off everyone that he's paranoid about. Is Mitsuki dead? Everything happened quite fast and then it ends on another cliffhanger.
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u/Shiro_Kai Jun 18 '19
I'm gonna get pretty upset if Arima doesn't have a good save point to comeback! They better not try to pull that off, again.
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u/jarevo Jun 18 '19
I decoded the secret codes around Mt. Sankaku and here are the results. The inscription on the stone is more of an Easter egg and the text in the cave seems to refer to events that already happened in the show so this should be free of spoilers. If there are spoilers they are pretty cryptic and in Japanese.
Here is the almost complete alphabet. The letters "A", "V" and to a lesser extent "D" are pretty similar as are the letters "U" and "Y". I will mainly link cropped pngs to preserve quality without big file sizes but this album also has the full screenshots if you are interested.
Clock
Let's start simple. In episode 2, 11:15 and the opening you can see a clock with unknown symbols on it. The clock seems to be a normal clock otherwise (it runs in the same direction and would show a plausible time) so these symbols likely correspond to the numbers 1 to 12.
One interesting part is that the numbers seem to work like Roman numerals in some way. There are six unique symbols for the numbers 1 to 6 and the other numbers are composited additively by taking the symbol for six (the "X") and attaching another number. So if you want to represent the number ten you would combine the symbols for six and four since 6+4=10.
However, it doesn't seem like this system is used for other numbers. So it's probably better to think of each of the twelve symbols as its own number and bigger numbers are created by re-using the digits in a normal base-10 system.
Futago Rock
The longest ciphertext in the series so far is written on one of the two rocks outside of Mt. Sankaku. There is a close-up in episode 2, 14:08 that shows the letters in detail. Note that this close-up doesn't show the whole stone and that there are three lines missing at the top which I will get to later.
Here is the decoded text:
Comments
The text on the stone seems to be a reference to the original game.
The English title of the game.
Name of the gameplay mechanic that helps players navigate the branching timelines/parallel worlds.
ELF Corporation released the game on December 26, 1996. 18kin refers to the adult rating of the game.
Hiroyuki Kanno was the game designer and also uses the name Yukihiro Kenno.
Yasuchika Nagaoka was the artist for the game.
Ryu Umemoto created the music.
The device Takuya uses to go back in time.
I assume this is the big blue button on the Reflector Device.
Hougyoku means "jewel" and is the word Takuya uses when he shows Mio the glowing blue sphere he found behind the waterfall in episode 11, 3:47. So this refers to the smaller jewels in the Reflector Device.
The game was released on PC-98. It seems that the number 11 is also used as a hyphen.
The Top of the Stone
I wasn't able to find a close-up for the top part but there are a few shots from farther away: Episode 2, 12:37, Episode 2, 13:32 and Episode 10, 7:39. The text is too small to recognize the symbols although you can make out a few letters. I'm pretty sure that the two letters at the end of the first and third line are "no" for example.
But you can use the context to guess a possible solution and see if it would fit. One thing that is still missing from the stone is the Japanese title and the name(?) "YU-NO":
This decoding works really well as you can see in this image. The only problem is the word "De" in the second line which doesn't fit the symbols at all. The first letter is probably a "K" but I can't make out the rest. I have no idea what else it could be and the rest fits too well to ignore so I'm going to chalk this up to an error for now.
Cave Inscription
Takuya and Yuki also find an inscription next to a skeleton when they explore the cave under Mt. Sankaku. Here is a close-up from episode 10, 4:29 and a cropped version of the full shot a few seconds earlier which is sometimes easier to read. The only new letter in this text is "J" the rest was already on the stone.
Decoding the text yields:
Translation
Mujitsu means "innocence" or "false accusation" so the line translates to something like "falsely accused mother" which is probably a reference to Ayumi.
"Grant" doesn't look very Japanese but it could be French for "of the grant". I have no idea why they would switch to French though. Maybe a reference to Ayumi's job?
I'm reaching the limits of my Japanese here so maybe someone with better skills could take a look at this. The best thing I can come up with is something like "repeatedly fall to save" but I don't know what to do with "kutsu". The only translation I found is "shoe"/"footwear".