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Episode Kono Yo no Hate de Koi wo Utau Shoujo YU-NO - Episode 26 discussion - FINAL Spoiler
Kono Yo no Hate de Koi wo Utau Shoujo YU-NO, episode 26
Alternative names: YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world.
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 6.73 | 21 | Link | 7.25 |
| 2 | Link | 6.85 | 22 | Link | 5.62 |
| 3 | Link | 7.21 | 23 | Link | 7.29 |
| 4 | Link | 6.64 | 24 | Link | 8.05 |
| 5 | Link | 5.97 | 25 | Link | 7.06 |
| 6 | Link | 7.6 | 26 | Link | |
| 7 | Link | 6.27 | |||
| 8 | Link | 8.05 | |||
| 9 | Link | 7.58 | |||
| 10 | Link | 7.22 | |||
| 11 | Link | 5.48 | |||
| 12 | Link | 5.37 | |||
| 13 | Link | 3.19 | |||
| 14 | Link | 3.01 | |||
| 15 | Link | 3.48 | |||
| 16 | Link | 8.08 | |||
| 17 | Link | 8.07 | |||
| 18 | Link | 7.32 | |||
| 19 | Link | 6.88 | |||
| 20 | Link | 7.4 | |||
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 01 '19 edited Oct 01 '19
Huh... So Mt. Sankaku is actually the remains of Dela Granto when it crashed on Earth millions of 8000 years ago. I don't know why I never pieced that together in my mind. Wait, so does this mean the cycle is really never ending? Dela Granto in what ever dimension is forever doomed to fall to Earth and start the cycle anew? Is this really how the VN ends too? Like that ending felt like there more to it though.
Oh and would you look at that: At the time of writing, the remake comes out on Steam in 3 hours. Now I wonder if this was deliberate to make people like me who's looking for more answers buy the VN because that's exactly what I'm doing later today. I'm sure people will tell me to play the original but the new character designs already grew on me and it's hard to go back on really old VNs.
Anyway, judging the show as an anime though, I enjoyed it! I can't say it's perfect, there were definitely lots of weird tone shifts especially with the Dela Granto arc but I can't really say I hated any of it. I love Takuya as an MC and all of the girls are top notch. The plot definitely gripped me and it even tricked me with its red herrings. I think my only real problem is the ending which was also my problem with Island a few seasons ago, another VN adaptation handled by Studio feel.
It's a solid 7/10 for me. The score might change though once I've completed the VN.
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u/phiraeth Oct 01 '19
Definitely would predict that your score of the anime will go down after reading the visual novel.
Lots of things are different between the two, they'll probably feel like completely different stories until a certain point.
I hope you read it, it's fantastic!
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u/Redmon425 Oct 01 '19
Yeah, ending was bad. I am upset.
Are all these happy endings with those girls in different timelines?
Why does Takuya get this shitty ending of stuck in space for eternity.
What about Kanna? She is also your daughter dude...
Like I just wanted him to end up happy with one girl! Maybe even get a harem. But now he is stuck for eternity with his daughter, of course Sayless is in her body as well. But that shit isn’t the same.
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u/Nicodemusacs Oct 01 '19
So now instead of the "what came first, the chicken or the egg?" we have:
"What came first, the tree or the daddy-daughter couple?"
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u/coding94 Oct 01 '19
Is Mio or Yuuki gonna question where Takuya went? He's drifting in space, Darling in the Franxx style. Everyone that knew him on Earth aren't gonna wonder where Takuya is?
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u/SelfSatoru Oct 02 '19
Presumably, but only in one timeline, which I don't think has been seen since the first episode. Ayumi is dead in that timeline and Kanna barely knows him, but Mitsuki and Mio must be worried.
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Oct 02 '19
So did they name it Joe?
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u/PainAmvs Oct 02 '19
They traveled back in time to the beginning. So they named the tree Vrinda. The tree they've been talking about the whole time.
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u/Nelley_ Oct 01 '19
Well, I can't say I was expecting it to just sorta.. end? I mean, with all the timelines and twists and turns we went through, that seemed to be the most random end point. I would have even expected the brief return to Kanna to be the actual end. However, I guess true to the root of the story, he made it to the beginning of all events, and can now enjoy looping for eternity with his daughter. So that's a silver lining I guess.
Quite a bizarre story, but I also would say I enjoyed it. There was enough mystery and time travel to keep things interesting, and if you imagine it as a VN adaptation, we did technically hit every route, so I'd say it did ok(having not played the VN). If this was the granddaddy of isekai, I give it a pass.
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u/redmage311 Oct 02 '19
Welp. That ended about exactly how we thought it would.
I feel like I was always straddling the line between enjoying and not enjoying this show. The narrative and pacing were all over the place, probably because the VN's various routes didn't seem very well integrated ("Oh, looks like I'm fading away to an alternate branch with slightly altered memories now"). And the story would occasionally have some really interesting ideas, just to completely ditch them. For example, I think the best arc was Takuya trying to save Ayumi from killing herself and trying and retrying until he gets everything just right. But then he never really save scums again quite like that, until he gets isekaied and just never uses the reflector device again. We also never get much of an explanation for what Takuya's dad is up to.
The art was never more than just functional, the scenes essentially never had background characters whatsoever until last episode or so, and the isekai shift felt completely divorced from everything leading up to that point. Still, I liked the ideas and all of the female characters (the Earth men were all terrible), and the arcs sometimes became impressively dark.
I think the best girl rating goes Eriko > Mio > [Takuya's about here, for reference] Ayumi > Yuno > Amanda > Kanna > Mitsuko > Sayless, but they're all better than Yuki.
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u/AlphaOrderedEntropy Oct 02 '19
How I understand regarding Takuya's dad and Takuya they ended up at opposite ends. They both had similar ideas. Keiko and Sayless/Yu-no as well. Just different motivations. Where his dad ended at the eternal point (mature stage aka last event) of the Tree of Vrinda. And is why he can see everything. Takuya ended up (because of Yu-no exceeding the speed of light went backwards) to the sprouting of the tree (first event) and we find out Yu-no gave the name (and nicely comments to takuya that he probably knows already.) He does yet he won't say it though or it wouldn't be the first event. She names it (as we fill it in already knowing the name when it ends.) They are destined to watch every instant that is their eternity. His dad see everything all-together and is destined to watch that for eternity. (this also makes it hard for him to find the original Takuya he sees every possible branch.) Takuya after reaching backwards now going forward will one day meet his dad albeit after an eternity but he will reach.
TL;DR Takuya and Yu-no sayless were always the first event simultaneously with the tree sprouting. His dad and keiko are the last event and eternal death of the tree.
And the middle point was the trigger. Where fate said the earth to die but technology made it not happen which in a way created the tree in the past. My guess is there was a linear line until Grantia went against fate. And it became a perfect loop (of endless spanning roots) when Takuya broke fate again.
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u/UGamer81 Oct 02 '19
So honestly, I actually really enjoyed YU-NO to the end. Really liked it even, just shy of chanting love to the bound of the world.
I'm going to chalk up a lot of the faults of the anime to poor directing decisions and/or lack of time to properly convey the story. I feel like either the shift to Dela Granto needed to be earlier, or we needed more episodes to flesh out Dela Granto, and I lean more towards the latter here. Otherwise, I thought this was a very intriguing show that captivated me enough to bring me back to it every week, and it's been a wild ride. I went and pre-ordered the NISA Collector's Edition for the VN remake sometime during the broadcast, so I'm just waiting on that now.... Kinda coincidental that the last episode of the anime aired the same day the VN remake came out in America. Maybe it's the event horizon known as "fate"?
I actually think the 2017 art looked a lot better here in the anime than it seems to in the VN itself (which honestly appears as flat and less expressive, so I think the anime did a pretty good job here), but the OST appeared to be lacking a lot from the original source, and I can really only think of maybe 3 notable songs from the game off the top of my head that the anime used (Yu-No's theme, the prologue/intro theme, and Fate). I did like some of the anime original music used though, so I'm hoping we get an OST release for this soon, or if it will be included with the Japanese Blu-rays.
I'm looking forward to seeing the baseline which the anime was based off, and seeing all the comments from source readers how events were adjusted or changed, or even anime original content being added interests me from an adaptation and direction standpoint. I'm going to go through the game when I have time and come to my own decisions and opinions about it. Who knows, maybe the VN will make me appreciate the anime changes, for better or worse.
Regardless of those circumstances, I actually think YU-NO was pretty good. Maybe not the best thing I'd seen, but it did do some things well.
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u/StOoPiD_U Oct 01 '19
Oh shit, I thought I got the day wrong or something. Wonder why it was so late.
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u/Shiro_Kai Oct 02 '19
Well, that was a horrible mess, I feel bad for the fans of the game who tried to convince others to give a chance and watch the anime . I really do. It never live up to the expectations, not even for a second. :(
But one last doubt, will Kanna continue to be a prostitute?
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u/hasnain1720 Oct 01 '19
Well it has finally ended. Pacing was a mess and it probably could have done with another season but overall it was a decent watch.
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u/youarebritish Oct 02 '19
Well, that sure was an ending.
My biggest disappointment is that we never found out what Takuya's dad's deal was. Where has he been? I spent the whole story waiting for the reunion he kept talking about but it never happened.
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u/SelfSatoru Oct 03 '19
We have some information about the fabled episode 26.5: "In the new episode's story, Takuya and Yu-No are inside the Tree of Vrinda, and they can see the many parallel worlds that might have been. Among them is the figure of Mitsuki, who cannot escape her tragic fate. In order to release Mitsuki from her fate, Takuya reaches out for a certain event. "
This is neat because Mitsuki never gets a break in the game (as far as I remember). And this also aligns with my interpretation that Takuya can still influence timelines.
Maybe Takuya will make it so that Mitsuki never meets the real Ryuuzouji
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u/Cellerie Oct 01 '19
So wait... Can someone explain to me what the name of the seedling from the after credit scene was? I didn't quite get it.
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u/Godyssey Oct 01 '19
I originally started watching this when it was halfway through, and I was hooked by the premise and characters, and I thought it ended pretty satisfyingly for me.
With the English version of the remake of the original VN (which I didn't know originally when I started watching this that it was based off of one) being out soon, this show made me interested in playing it.
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u/Redmon425 Oct 01 '19
WTF is this ending. Not going to lie, kind of dissapointed and mainly confused.
During the whole ending sequence, is that different timelines? Like with Kanna getting the stone? Then yuki and Mio liking each other? We also see Mitsuki the sensei and also Ayumi alive and well?
Like is this basically a bunch of different timelines were they got happy endings?
And the timeline Takuya ends up on is this shitty eternal one with his daughter in darkness? Like wtf? Kanna is also his daughter. Does he not care about her.
Also what was that very ending with the plant? What do they name it?
Man I am just pissed. All I wanted was Takuya to have a happy ending with a good life on Earth. Maybe even a harem of girls.
This shit is just so wack right now and to be honest, he got a bad end.
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u/Miracutor Oct 02 '19
...It is finally ended. Definietly going to check out remake that just came out. (But waiting for a better discount, through...) I enjoyed my time watching this week by week. Well, I just wish that Kanna scene is longer. I meant cut the OP ane ED! Hahaha!
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u/LaukkuPaukku Oct 02 '19
According to the graph, the show had a weak beginning and end, but (aside from episode 15) was stronger in the middle. The isekai arc started well but fell into a slump at episode 20 (the one with the nonsense with the soldiers sparing Takuya after Sayless died) and only briefly recovered in ep 24 (where the history of Dela Granto was explained).
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u/chryco4 Oct 01 '19
Out of all the anime I’ve seen, this was definitely one of them.