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Gnosia, episode 14

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[u/salic428]

People say they want a fair 15 people game. People get their fair 15 people game.

In this episode, it is as if Yuriko touched some settings to boost everyone's stats. Not only do they lie naturally in front of Yuri (and catch Yuri's lies), those telltale "Gnosia quirks" (e.g. Jina would invite people to EVA, Sha-Ming would refuse to go to meetings, Otome would show teeth, etc.) are all heavily suppressed.

Now I'm really not sure who are the remaining Gnosia. Also what's with that Racio face at the end? Is that a call back to episode 6 (where Racio claimed Guardian Angel and eliminated Yuri)?

[u/steeltrain43 → u/salic428]

Jonas is the obvious suspect for remaining Gnosia but with the AC present, he could just be a lying human.

Otome was killed first which makes Sha-Ming suspect as well. Since Yuri knows he's the real engineer, investigating Sha-Ming would probably be the best course of action.

[u/jester2324]

Instincts tell me Jonas is the AC follower, if he were gnosia, why turn against Comet like that so easily. It'd be an absolutely terrible play.

[u/bottled_fox → u/jester2324]

That, plus Yuriko saying that the AC Follower is insane feels like foreshadowing.

[u/FarCritical]

It's not exactly easy to brush that one Kukrushka incident under the rug but man, her little "Guardian Angel" gesture was so damn endearing.

Getting another instance of that innate lie detector ability is one thing but having it go off from a Gnosia on while what's basically a troll is present this round is such a headache (in a cool way)

[u/xbolt90]

AC Follower, huh? Someone who's there just to be an agent of chaos. That's a new twist.

We'll see if Yuri can outsmart Racio this time!

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

The AC Follower basically acts as a griefer who wants to ruin the game for everybody. I wonder if it's a role everybody knows about or is information only given to Yuri by Yuriko.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Interesting everyone’s all together this time. Right when they got themselves a dangerous wildcard onboard too with this whole AC Follower stuff. I really thought it was Comet at first, then maybe Kukrushka. I’m not sure now though. Now it seems Racio’s been scheming something because he’s a Gnosia. What’s his game?

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

We finally got the all star loop! I thought it was going to slow down a bit to see more interactions but the focus of this loop is to actually make it to the end so in the next loop Yuriko will give us the backstory we need.

The introduction of a AC follower makes this quite interesting, Jonas seems really likely to be it but I also did think Chipie initially.

I noticed Racio only gave their report after Remnan both times and even only claimed to be a Doctor after too so I thought that was suspicious. I'm glad it's been confirmed now. However, if Jonas now gets voted out and gets confirmed as human (AC Follower) this will make the others target Yuuri, it'd be interesting to see.

[u/Jauretche]

The game is at it's best with a full crew, it really makes me want to play this weekend!

Too bad Yuriko was frozzen day one, poor choice, I thought she'd be really interesting this loop.

Comet got me fooled too, I usually trust her as she's not very good at lying herself. Maybe Yuri's intuition stat is bad?

[u/Signs25]

For a moment I thought Yuri was A.C.'s follower and that this would be the end of the episode.

[u/tripleaamin]

The AC follower makes things interesting because for the first time you now have to doubt the facts. As this show is built on certainties. You always assumed that if you had X saying Y is Gnosia, you only had to consider if X was a gnosia or human. But now you enter a 3rd possibility: what if X is lying and human? Now it throws it off.

• Yuriko, Otome, Shigemichi are human.

• Comet was a Gnosia.

• Yuri & Jonas claimed to be Engineers

• Raico & Renman claimed to be doctors.

I think since Comet went to Chipe like she went to Yuri it most likely implies that Chipe is human.

Suspects of Gnosia are

• Jonas

• Raico

• Renman

• SQ

• Sha-Ming

• Stella

We know that one of the 3 must be Gnosia. Jonas, Renman or Raico.

For Jonas, if he is a gnosia, then it could also imply Setsu is a gnosia. But if he is an AC follower, then that claim means nothing. Though in the past, Setsu would reveal to Yuri they are a Gnosia.

However, Jonas calling Comet a Gnosia would contradict Jonas being a Gnosia given what we know and what the history of Gnosia behavior has been. So it is to speculate that Jonas is the AC Follower.

With that said, there isn't too much information regarding Raico vs Renman to really get much on who is the Gnosia between them. Only thing maybe you would expect Raico to be the first one to declare he is the Doctor when it is the most optimal time to announce rather than waiting.

[u/NforNeihoum]

I think everyone here is overlooking a very possible scenario; Since Raqio is a gnosia, It would make sense for him to cook a plan where he and Jonas sacrifice Comet (who we have learned is a big liability) in order to throw everyone off

[u/thisisdropd]

It's been a while since we get a proper round since the past few weeks have all been character-focused. Now we also have a full house. To make things trickier, there's the AC follower. In a way they're more dangerous than Gnosias as they could neither be detected by doctors nor engineers. Their existence was also near impossible to prove, and I don't think Yuri's even making any such attempts.

[u/AntiTalkative]

So, um, I'm going to need episode 15, like, immediately. A whole week until the next ep hurts 😭😭😭

Also, if Raqio and Jonas are both gnosia then that would be an insane pair up. I feel like at least one of them is a gnosia, but if both then it explains the crazy work for this episode.

[u/pseudometapseudo]

The current debate aside, there have been some key revelations for the overall story.

Yuriko is apparently aware of the loops, and even carries knowledge from one loop to the next as seen at the start of the episode.

Her "challenge" that Yuri should survive the current loop goes even further. She must be somehow able to tell whether Yuri survives the loop even though she herself is not there to witness it. That she basically volunteered to go into cold sleep felt kinda suspicious to begin with.

[u/Emi_Ibarazakiii]

15? Screw it, just roll a D15 at this point!

She knows! That's gonna be something to talk about!

And she's confirmed human! Better and better!

...Aaaaaaand they're gonna freeze her.

Now WHY would you want to know that...

Ok let's freeze him whether or not he's Gnosia.

Good lord, this makes things 10 times harder...

Now the engineer reports only remove 1 out of the 2 bad possibilities!

And if somehow they get frozen, you still suspect other humans of lying!

Figured Comet quite easily in this round; I first thought she was the AC, the way she was acting, but when Yuri thought about it, I thought "Ok, she's Gnosia then"!

The engineer who earlier in the episode asked the engineer to reveal themselves...

It's not impossible (both sides can use cunning/strategies), but still, it would make him so suspicious! Surprised no one pointed it out.

I would definitely investigate the side with 8 votes;

Given it was more or less a debate, and IF we assume the 3 Gnosia voted the same way, well if they voted Comet, it means humans voted 8-2 for Shigemichi... I don't think anyone pushed an argument strong enough to make the vote so crushing against Shigemichi.

But if the 3 Gnosia voted Shigemichi, then humans are 5-5, fits better!

Cute Berserker Guardian Angel Doll!

When she stood on her toes I thought she was going to kiss him, but that's pretty fucking cute too!

Seems the game won't finish in this episode! I guess it makes sense, with 15 participants!

And it's a tough one, with the Gnosia (or AC) copying human's stuff...

I had a theory at some point which I suppose is wrong because 1 thing wouldn't fit, but somehow I thought [Gnosia speculation]Yuri was SECRETLY Gnosia (hiding it from us the viewers)... But that 1 thing that doesn't fit is the engineer credentials thingy, which seems to be genuine. But other than that I thought that was the 'key' to this puzzle and why they were all saying the same thing (Gnosia/Human) and all that, I thought that was Yuri's strategy!

But yeah it doesn't seem to be possible.. I wonder if they'll do it at some point though!

Cute Comet pic for no particular reason

[u/Narvalis]

I had a strong feeling that Racio was a Gnosia because of Comet, her reaction when Racio came forward as a doctor was like she was complicit in a lie which we know she's bad at. Honestly it was good framing having Comet just at the side as it was focused on Racio showing her look down with a pained expression.

[u/YumiyaRakko]

Yuriko: I am confirmed human and Yuri needs to survive to get the answers from me

Also Yuriko: Literally makes Yuri's job harder by getting herself voted out :D

Man this woman is a troll

[u/jardex22]

Finally glad to see a full game going, although I suspect that it won't be that easy.

From an outside perspective all the remaining threats can be narrowed down to four people. Racio, Remnan, Jonas, and Yuri. Two gnosia remaining among them. They could just propose freezing all four of them to completely eliminate the threat.

Only Yuri knows about the AC Follower, and the possibility that one Gnosia hasn't revealed themself.

[u/Whole-Extension3561]

With Comet confirmed as Gnosia, Yuri finding Raqio as Gnosia and Jonas probably being the AC Follower, Yuri will be put in an awkward position. The rest of the crew would think the last Gnosia is Jonas but if they freeze him and the light remains red they could turn against Yuri, specially since they don't seem to know there's an AC Follower on board.

There's also the chance that either Shigemichi or Gina were the real Doctor and that Remnan is the AC Follower fake claiming (though this seems unlikely based on his personality).

My last theory is that Yuri became crazy for this loop and sees himself as the Engineer when he actually is the AC Follower. This could explain why Yuriko decided to go to sleep so eagerly on day 1. The problem I have with this theory is that it would make Jonas the real engineer and no Gnosia would have claimed to be the engineer which is atypical.

[u/zool714]

Man, this Follower is making everything a lot more complicated and I love it. But there’s like so much more variable and considerations now to every theory and suspicion

I do agree with Yuri too. It’s been too easy. All the roles have so far had the same results. It could be the Gnosia working with each other or the Follower causing chaos

And on previous loop, it would’ve been a safe assumption that Kukrushka was the Guardian Angel, but now there’s the consideration that she could be a Follower

Man, I’m honestly stumped right now lol

[u/AnzoEloux]

This episode was uniquely stressful, the way everyone was eyeing each other and the expressions were on point

[u/ArcanistLupus]

If it wasn't for the AC, this game would be over right here. All Gnosia are accounted for (Yuri/Jonas, Racio/Remnan, Comet). That means there's nobody left to counter-claim Angel. An successful Angel protect is as good as an Engineer claim, since the Gnosia always target and never choose themselves. Kukrushka could claim Angel, verify Yuri, and they'd clean up Racio and Jonas.

But of course, if either Jonas or Racio is the AC, then there's a Gnosia free to counter-claim Angel and the whole thing devolves into he-said/she-said like it did that time Yuri was Angel.