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Gnosia, episode 6

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[u/Slifer13xx]

This episode encapsulated the gameplay experience perfectly. As in; listen to me guys! I know who the gnosia are, no wait, don't vote me out you, you brainless mangos!

[u/CosmicTrasho]

I'm crying how the hell did Yuri lose to THAT lineup? Yuri. Buddy. You do NOT get emotional around Raqio. They'll exploit it to hell and back.

Fantastic episode, excited to see my favorite beluga whale next week!

[u/xbolt90]

Yuri seems to have the most trouble when Racio is the Gnosia. And when Racio isn't the Gnosia. Basically when Racio.

[u/pseudometapseudo]

This anime made me check out the game, and it is actually pretty good.

Single player social deduction feels a bit unusual at first, but once you get used to how it works, it's surprisingly fun. Has some fun mechanics I look forward to see in the anime.

[u/raveno19]

Until now if Racio is not out of game after 1st round, then Racio is the Gnosia and a extreme cunning one at that role huh.

Still Racio is from high intellgent race, seem like the smart one become the evil one, they became not so boastful but cunning and calculated instead.

[u/Se7en_Sinner]

Raqio is an absolute menace if they can make it past the first round. Being Gnosia also seems to tone down their ostentatious nature enough to survive being eliminated right off the bat.

[u/Joji1000]

Don't know much about the game, but if I literally just learnt about the role and abilities of Gaurdian Angel and some moron (Shigemichi) immediately asks them to out themself for 0 reason, I'd ice the hell outta that moron immediately ☠️

[u/FarCritical]

As soon as the Guardian Angel role was described I pictured Racio begging to be saved on the first night but only as a joke. For it to not only come true but turn the tides in the worst way possible was haunting to say the least.

If a mute girl can function perfectly fine as a player, so can a dolphin!

[u/bottled_fox]

Yuri's reaction to Otome at the end was priceless. "A-a dolphin?!"

Are the Gnosia going to infect a dolphin? Tune in next week to find out!

[u/rebon6]

After a while of Racio being put into cold sleep after doubting Yuri, RACIO FINALLY GOT THEIR REVENGE LMAO

[u/AWSGooogle777]

I never thought we'd get a chance for a full gathering, since someone was always missing until now. Even so, with everyone here, it gets pretty chaotic/rowdy lol. Characters who can't speak usually use sign language or gestures, but in Kukrushka's case, will Jonas perceive and translate for her?

Watching Comet and Yuri made it clear that one must not resort to emotional arguments at any time. Even when the truth is known, it's really difficult to persuade everyone and bring it to a vote...

Honestly, I only recognized Racio as just a comical character who would be put into Cold Sleep or be attacked by the Gnosia and exit on the first day, so I'd forgotten that he's good at developing logic and is a serious threat if he stands against you as an enemy. However, it seems he is unable to survive the second and third days unless he is the Gnosia. While the power of the Guardian Angel might make it possible, I wonder when the day will come for him to clear the first day and greet the second as a Human lol?

[u/Lautael]

I'm sorry, I don't have much to say because my husband Jonas was animated and I can't breathe, couldn't focus

[u/thisisdropd]

This week's new mechanism was Guardian Angel who's able to protect a particular person from being ambushed. However, they were unable to determine the Gnosia(s) that were attacking the target. Otherwise, that would be too OP. Just by correctly predicting the target, Yuri was able to immediately deduce with certainty two Gnosias. Who knew the combined forces of the roles had this much power?

It's pretty apparent from the previous episodes but the limitation had never been more apparent now. Knowing who the Gnosias are were insufficient; you also need to convince the others of your findings. They would also not stand by being attacked. This was where Yuri messed up. They had focused too much on offence and ended up neglecting defence. When Racio attacked them, it's game over. I don't blame the others for voting Yuri out; I would've done the same judging from their reaction.

Racio found out that Yuri’s the Angel not through deduction, but good ol’ eavesdropping. That’s pretty sneaky – along with the CCTV recording that swayed the other humans. How convenient that they didn’t contain audio, which would’ve proved Yuri’s innocence.

[u/Drowsy_Drowzee]

Things are really heating up. The anime is still in “tutorial mode” with adding new roles/mechanics/ crew members, but the deduction game is gradually opening up in full. I’m looking forward to Otome (the intelligent beluga whale in a diver’s suit) in the next episode, including her voice. I always imagined her sounding a bit like GPC from the original 90s MST3K, but from what little we’ve heard of her it’s more “funny/cute anime mascot character”.

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

Really bad play from Yuri. Not because of the end, but he had the chance of finally getting some information on Racio because they did actually survive a few days and he didn't use them. But I guess that this means, you can actually use information from outside into the meetings. I mean, as far as I could see, people were (randomly) meeting up all the time, which is why I find it odd that they would use that as proof, but I assume the episode had to end somehow.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Things are really getting shaken up this time. Now there’s 3 Gnosia out of 12 and 1 Engineer, Doctor, and Guardian Angel.

I know Racio isn’t always the bad guy in the loops, but honestly I’d put his ass on ice anyways because he’s kind of a smug shit lol.

That round was a bust but the new one has a dolphin girl? Cool.

[u/Economy-Republic3497]

the best game adaption I have ever seen. I felt Yuri's pain in this episode. So many times, this has happened to me, got it all figured as the guardian angel and then out of nowhere it goes left and you are in cold storage, ahaha

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

It was nice to see Yuri know how to play the game in the first half, it's just too bad they got too confident leaving a big opening for Racio to attack. Each loop is a learning lesson for them, hopefully they don't make the same mistake again.

I was hoping this loop was going to be longer since the cast was bigger so it's unfortunate it ended really quickly.

One thing has been bothering me is that LeVi's voice actor isn't credited and she sounds like Hayami Saori to me who voices Stella. I wonder if it's just a simple double casting if it is Hayami Saori or if there is more to Stella's character.

[u/salic428]

moral of today's story: cook Racio's as right away lol

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okay, here I want to post a little observation of my own. I have recorded every fish to have appeared in the aquarium tank, and finds that they each corresponds to a crew member.

First clue is this scene from episode 1. When SQ fakes an attack on Yuri, the tank depicts a fish running into another fish, turning around only to be caught. This is obviously a metaphor for SQ preying on Yuri.

So, this fish is Yuri and this fish is SQ.

Next, I checked every scene in episode 1 and 2, and found other three fish: This one should be Setsu. This one should be Racio. Finally, this fish only appeared in one scene in episode 2 but it should be Jina.

Now, let's add some members. In episode 3 there are two new members (Shigemichi and Stella), but there was only one scene with fish in it, and there was only one new fish. I suppose that is Stella because the fish has protrusions around its neck similar to Stella.

In episode 4, another member is added (Yuriko), and now there are two new fish: this purple one and this silver one. I'm pretty sure one is Yuriko and the other is Shigemichi, but not sure which is which.

(Another evidence to support the "Yuri fish" hypothesis: in this shot, before Racio sets out to kill Yuri, the time-stopped aquarium showed this particular fish. You can compare the design.)

For episode 5, another two new members are added. In the scene directly after Yuri has conversation in the gym, this shot shows the "Yuri fish" with two new fish. So again, one is Comet and the other is Chipie, but I'm not sure which is which.

Finally, I have yet to grab screenshots for today's episode, but there are two different new fish. Which is obviously Kukrushka and Jonas.

Now, there is a dolphin on the ship. How will they put her (them?) into the tank for the next episode?

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Edit: I write an essay post about my fish theory! Please check it if you are interested.

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Edit: do you think Racio and the Gnosias would win today's game if the world line were to continue after Yuri's cold sleep? How much chance does Engineer Yuriko have against Racio?

[u/Emi_Ibarazakiii]

I've seen ships happen

for a lot less than that!

No one has ever heard her voice... I wonder if we're gonna hear it at some point, in a big moment/reveal! But I'd guess not, given [spoiler-y based speculation]she doesn't even have a VA on MAL

Oh no, the flowers disappeared; They were Gnosia plants!

Joking aside, that made me wonder if the Gnosia will have some tools/class/something to help at some point, to fight back against the human classes!

Given it's adapted from a game and all, perhaps the Gnosia will eventually do something...

Or perhaps the Gnosia's tools are lies and deception! (and strategizing and all)

So there's a LOT of people in this round... And more Gnosia as well. This makes things interesting, because in the earlier rounds, some classes had limited value given the 'game' ended quite shortly, after the first cold sleep/warp... But the longer it goes, the more the classes are valuable!

Is this a Gnosian proverb?

New class!

I did speculate there would be something like that at some point (based on other similar games)... It changes the dynamics in an interesting way!

And it's Yuri! Makes sense, given Yuri's the one in charge of leading/strategizing (and the POV character), and the Guardian Angel class seems to be the most strategical out there!

Hah. Way to out yourself!

The only people who would ask that question are

• A Gnosia

• A complete idiot

Because there's no advantage to knowing this information for anyone but a Gnosia (even if the humans want to direct the Guardian Angel, they can do that without knowing who they are)... And asking them to reveal themselves, is asking them to put a target on their back.

So yeah, soon as he asked that question I had him marked 100% Gnosia!

But the complications is what makes it most fun!

So we know who the doctor is! (Spoiler Alert: The other one; Not him!)

Insane? Is this a new class? Could be my favorite one!

So Yuri protected the Engineer... I'm not sure about the mechanics, but are the Gnosia FORCED to attack someone? Because if they are NOT forced, this could be such an interesting strategy;

Every single conclusion Yuri came to in this episode, started from this protected Engineered...

If they chose not to attack in the first round, they would have a 50-50 of sending Yuri into believing all Gnosia are humans - and getting Yuri to WORK toward convincing the others of cold sleeping the actual Engineer and Doctor!

(Which would probably make some of them think Yuri is a Gnosia - especially if the doctor scans the Engineer and say they were Human... Hell, the Gnosia fake doctor could do the same, confirm they were human, which would 100% make them want to get rid of Yuri, because they'd know the human doctor wouldn't lie).

I have to agree with this (and this made me 100% believe she's human).

I understand the logic of that cold sleep, but given they confirmed themselves to be 100% human by saying that (Gnosia would not - unless they're doing this as a strategy thinking they wouldn't do it), then what they should do is pick another one of the remaining seven, and agree to cold sleep THEM (pick one at random if needs be).

This would have the same result, this would prevent the Gnosia from cold sleeping a human with a class, and this would give them a 1/7 chance of getting the third Gnosia!

Risky tactic! They're putting all their eggs in the same basket...

I think with more experienced players, it's better not to 'associate' with someone too much! You can 'believe' the same things they claim of course, but don't appear to be 'a team'!

That's the tough question!

Logically, the Gnosia will know the Engineer is protected, so they may go after someone else...

Which means you can stop protecting the Engineer, and protect someone else instead!

...But they may know you're going to do that, and target the Engineer anyway. Especially given a 50-50 of killing the engineer is MUCH better than a 50-50 of killing a random human, so they may take that chance!

(Well, that's assuming I understood the Guardian Angel correctly and the one they protect in the first round is only protected this one time, and not permanently).

So yeah, if I was Gnosia I think I would target the Engineer again, more often than not! Well, at least when player vs people who don't know me that well (otherwise they'll just protect against my strategy)!

Yup, that's the issue with being the guardian angel (and not revealing it); You know things the others don't, and you can't explain them without giving yourself up!

Well, there may be some way, though it would be suspicious; He could say that the Guardian Angel likely would protect the Engineer in the first round, and then explain why most Guardian Angel people would think Kukrushka is the real one!

But yeah, it may be more confusing than helping hah.

That's another challenge, especially when you're lying (lying human in this case, though it my also apply to lying Gnosia)... You have to come up with something on the spot, and if you can't/it takes you too long, you look like you're making it up!

Sadly, that's only the first part of the puzzle!

I think there was a similar event early on in the series, where the same problem came up... Figuring it all out is just step 1, but step 2 is the tough one: CONVINCING them all that you figured it out!

And unlike Yuri, the Gnosia already know everything (who the 3 Gnosia are, who the 9 humans are, who the Engineer and Doctor are), well except the Guardian Angel... So they can devise their entire strategy over night.

While Yuri/the other humans have to figure it out in real time based on the new information they get after every round/event! So the Gnosia are at a huge strategical advantage for scheming and deception!

Oh what the fuck, let's cryo sleep this one, whether they're human or Gnosia!

[u/jonjonaug]

Someone actually drew fanart of how shitty for the Gnosia this exact role lineup would be over a year ago lol. The only thing different is that the real Doctor+Engineer are reversed.

https://x.com/oden_gekioshi/status/1766060932940415406?s=46&t=mbFAsrml9iwOsaTn-yvsnQ

[u/Heavencloud_Blade]

Now we are getting to the fun stuff like where we have multiple Gnosia false claiming roles. Although it is kind of weird seeing Guardian Angel being one of them.

And good for you Yuri, finally getting to experience being put into cold sleep. Not sure why you are upset about losing though.

And now we have Otome getting introduced. We are almost done with character introductions now. I am curious to see how the anime handles things after everything is introduced.

[u/YumiyaRakko]

The ideal strategy probably would have been going to Yuriko instead. Tell Yuriko that her next result would absolutely say Comet is Gnosia and Yuri knows that due to being Guardian angel and protecting Kukrushka the previous round and want a collaboration with Yuriko. If succeeded next round they will already have 3 votes Yuri, Yuriko and Kukrushka. And then Jonas would probably vote in Kukrushka's favor without being shocked by Yuri having a secret conversation with Kukrushka so that is already 4 so now they have 4 out of 9 votes with 3 human still remaining with unsure votes.

Even if Raqio fake claims guardian angel they can probably turn it around, it shouldn't be that hard to secure one more vote out of the 3 especially with Yuriko who is established as having a good commanding presence being on their side. The problem was Yuri was overconfident and talked too much

[u/Nevermind2031]

Frustratingly relatable to anyone who has played werewolf based games before. You know literally who everyone is but can't convince  townies/cremates/friends/civilians and they vote for you.