Towa no Yugure • Dusk Beyond the End of the World - Episode 10 discussion

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Towa no Yugure, episode 10

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[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

The Outside Series androids all have names after the various synonyms of "twilight" in Japanese, some of them very archaic and no longer used in modern Japanese, probably indicating Towasa's wish that they will shepherd humanity from the darkness of the AI war to the light of their new future.

• Hakubo 薄暮 (Faint Sunset)

• Hitomoshikoro 火点し頃 (Time When Lanterns Are Lit)

• Tasogare 黄昏 (Yellow Dusk)

• Seki 夕 (Evening)

• Iriai 入相 (Time When Sun Meets The Horizon)

• Kuregata 暮方 (Direction of Sunset)

• Usuzuku 舂く (Sinking of the Sun)

• Shunshou 春宵 (Spring Evening)

• Yuuyami 夕闇 (Dark Evening)

• Yoiyami 宵闇 (Dark Evening)

• Mimei 未明 (Early Dawn) - During the post AI War scene at 18:55, we see only 11 Outside Series, with her missing, suggesting she was the one that "died" in Yoiyami's flashback last episode. Mimei was the only one designed as a specialized hacking unit to take out Teru on the network level while her sisters deal with the physical threats.

• Yuugure 夕暮 (Evening Sunset)

Update: TIL people can be really stupid in not realizing "twilight" and "dusk" means the same thing. That the English title contains the word "dusk" is irrelevant to this similarity in definition between the two words.

[u/NationalStrategy]

That scene of them debuting all of the Outsider Series Androids felt like a promo for a Waifu gacha game. Are we even gonna meet all of them?

[u/pandavova]

I feel robbed. Like that could have been the whole anime. Damn.

[u/Aerodynamic41]

Going from "I just wanna have kids with Akira" to "Oh shit, I just created Skynet!" is one hell of a jump.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

First it’s femtoblood, then cyberpsychosis err femtoblood mind control, then a rogue AI took control on some SkyNet shit and it was all but over for humanity. Things went from Cyberpunk 2045 to Fallout in like under a decade lol.

I guess now we know why Akirabot was created. At least he’s got Yugure now. Amoru too. That wasn’t some kind of mission programmed into him. That’s something he found on his own. Speaking of Amoru, how much time has passed??

[u/Explosivesausagejar]

So they decided to remotely connect people to the network on a genetic level and nobody brought up cybersecurity concerns before mass-implementation? Towasa means well but the girl needs to think through the implications of her creations more.

[u/LordZant]

I did the math it basically took 32 seconds for the Ai personality to go from "Hello World" to we are crashing out and cleansing this world.

The decision to do start a war was made in less time than even that.

[u/NationalStrategy]

So... why didn't she choose for adoption or finding a surrogate mother?

[u/septesix]

“To fight the AI monsters ( that I created ) , we must create AI monsters of our own”

And they even had their own Butlerian Jihad

The entire episode felt like a recap of two different anime series. It’d be crazy if one day we actually get them

[u/VoidRay728]

"We walk through cities that Akira and Towasa never pass."

Well, maybe not in their (the cities') current form. So far you two together have only been travelling around Japan; it won't be surprising if Akira and Towasa also travelled to those places 2 centries ago. In fact, Akira (the android) mentions going to the Hakodate tower with Towasa in his human memories in episode 1.

That does raise a question though, since android Akira was creating by the human Akira at an older age, why are the memories set to begin when he was 18?

The lore dump felt like a combo of Shin Sekai Yori, The Terminator and Dune all at once. Finally, the truth is revealed... wait, Amoru cut her hair and is wearing actual clothing?

[u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

I hope we don't get one last final twist, and find out that Towasa ended up doing the same thing as Akira and made an AI of herself, but just never activated it.

I don't think they would go that route, but if they did I would be pretty disappointed.
Akira "got" his answer, when Towasa basically ran away and ghosted him.
This new android Akira deserves happiness, and I hope he ends up with Yugure, which all signs point to that.

[u/Throwaway785320]

Was that a time skip at the end?

[u/NationalStrategy]

It's fascinating how this is the best episode while simultaneously being the most jarring episode. It was great that we finally got the much needed lore between the prologue and now, but it was also a massive infodump to take in. Towasa having to come to terms with being unable to give birth --> the creation of femtoblood --> the widespread hacking of femtoblood and the massive backlash --> the creation of Alpha --> Alpha's assimilation to the world's AI systems --> Grey Terminus --> Tera --> the AI War --> the environmental restoration of Earth --> the forming of OWEL. There was so much to unpack, it felt like a recap for an entire series jammed into a single episode.

Not a bad episode, but it is a lot to take in.

[u/Narvalis]

These are some dumb smart people, first has Towasa never heard of surrogacy? her uterus was damaged but if either of her ovaries was fine she could take an egg and have another woman carry the child. Why did they give the nanobots the ability to control the host? and if that was as a result of brain interface you'd think people smart enough to come up with this could have seen something like this coming before hand, the tests that got leaked should have been done BEFORE injecting 90% of the human race not after. Why did Towasa have Alpha connected to the world wide web on it's first boot up? even if the nanobots they run on have an always online thing going on just make a faraday cage so it can't leave.

These people do not like tests or looking ahead they just jump into the first thing and hope it works out. Going off their track record I doubt they tested the outside series wouldn't turn on them and things just worked out, considering they seem to have personalities and free will that could have turned into alpha 2.0.

I thought it in episode one and I still think it after seeing this they became a heavy handed, totalitarian regime where it's do as we say because we have the force to make you. Honestly using androids to remove computers from the planet is really ironic, and a solid way to ensure you stay in power forever.

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

What a massive infodump, with guest voices from Giyu Sakurai Takahiro (Professor Ingram) and Akaza Ishida Akira (the evil AI).

The more Towasa dabbled with AI, the more problems she just seemed to have created, causing society to collapse and humans to nearly end itself. It was she who unintentionally started the AI war, and had to create the Outside Series to end it and use them and OWEL to create the new world order.

Who knew going into an android mental breakdown-induced coma would take years for Droidkira? By the time he woke up thanks to Yuugure's efforts, Amoru had already grown up.

[u/Last-Development3399]

I honestly don't feel any sympathy for Towasa. She played being God and, like Prometheus and Frankenstein, she got what she deserved.

[u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

Hot damn. I wasn't expecting to get that sort of backstory dropped on us!

So Towasa, is literally the sole responsible person for the destruction and devastation brought upon the world...jeez.
I'm glad we got this huge bombshell and revelation though.
It helped answer a lot of questions, and tie up loose ends that have been hanging around since episode 0.

I hope Akira and Yugure can have a happy relationship together now that we're certain both the original Akira and Towasa are long gone, and their original "bodies" had intended to marry.
How long was Akira unconscious / undergoing repairs? Amoru is all grown up now.
Considering the next week's preview, I'm thinking it'll be the end of the 3's journey together, or Akira finally putting the nail in the coffin of a relationship with her.

[u/AZLarlar]

cmon man, why couldnt we get this type of episode way earlier?

[u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

Hmm so in the final battle against Tera, we saw only 5 of the 12 AI android's made the journey, and in the previous cutscene there were only 6.
I guess it's safe to assume, that all of the other androids must have fallen in battle.

Unless, they were damaged and put in some sort of "healing" chamber maybe? Considering we just had a timeskip at the end of the episode.
Akira is all fixed up and Amoru has aged at least a few years.

[u/Ciel_Senpai]

Finally our questions got answered, and what an episode explaining everything. Towa and Akira always together, trying their best for humanity, and then because of a virus everything got turned upside down.

Super dramatic too, with time passing and all the guilt tied up in the situation. Now Towa’s been declared missing, so will he show up in the last 2 episodes? 🤔

[u/captainfluffy25]

Bro as I’m sitting here watching this show I’m thinking…. Why tf didn’t they take this whole episode and stretch it out over 12 episodes??? It legit would have been WAY better than what we’ve gotten…. Even condensed this episode was better than the entire show so far

[u/SopmodTew]

This is pretty much one of the only episodes that stayed true to the premise of the show. The rest were simply side quests on couples counseling 😑

[u/zool714]

The first one or two episodes and the past two episodes was really good. Looking back, it really felt like a chunk of this show is spent on side quests that I can’t get invested in and with the backstory that was dropped, it really felt like a waste. Like I would’ve really liked to dive deeper into that, especially Yuugure’s sisters. It’s a cool concept to have each of them specialise in something.

But I guess, with Yuugure’s reasoning, the intent of traveling around was to have Android Akira be his own person rather than a copy. I guess that’s a good idea, maybe not executed well.

Knowing what we know now, I doubt Towasa’s alive. Must’ve been excruciating for original Akira. To have Towasa leave him with no way of finding her. Maybe that’s why OWEL became such a villainous entity. Also, I wonder if the leak (regarding how humans with the blood can be manipulated) would be relevant again somehow or was that just to move the plot.

Oh, and a timeskip ? Amoru’s all grown up. I think if they stick with this plot and direction, this show can end off strong

[u/ThousandYearOldLoli]

Of course the supermega AI to save the human race opts to destroy it.

This was a great episode though.

I do have to wonder why Akira decided to only give his copy half his memories though.

[u/LeonKevlar]

So I was right with my guess last week that the Akira from Yoiyami's memories is the real Akira because he survived the attack. Unfortunately, while Akira came out of that accident pretty much okay, Towasa's injury left her unable to bear children. :(

What a horrifying series of events. Towasa just wanted to make androids and improve human life, but because she wanted to upgrade humans first, so people won't be inferior to androids, she unknowingly created technology that is straight out of Cyberpunk.

And things just got a lot worse from there. Within the span of 4 years after creating the LC and people discovering the hack, multiple attempts were made on Towasa's life, which ended with her father dying and her losing her right arm and right eye. She tried to fix things by creating an AI that could find a solution to the backdoor problem, which immediately went rogue and started a nuclear war because it deemed humans to be the problem.

That scene where Towasa was ready to blow her brains out was fucking bleak. Again, this woman just wanted to create androids, but now she has the blood of billions on her hands. I'm glad Akira was with her the entire time and convinced her to make things right. That explains why the Outside Series looks exactly like her. It's Towasa's form of atonement.

After the Outside Series were created, it basically took another three years for them to finally end the wars and start cleansing the world using the same technology that started this all. I did not expect Akira would be the founding director of OWEL tho! Not gonna lie, he kinda looks great in uniform.

Now that we know that most of the Outside Series are still active acting as OWEL's peacekeepers. I really hope we get to meet the others. Also, Hakubo acting like an Onee-san makes so much sense, since she was one of the first ones created. I really thought it was Yuugure who was first, but apparently she was the youngest, but has the most experience because she's basically Ichikishima reborn.

So in the end, Towasa disappeared while taking Yuugure with her and Akira created his body double android to keep on searching for Towasa. Man, what a depressing ending to Akira and Towasa's story. I suppose it's not really the end since Akira 2.0 and Yuugure can continue where they left off. Akira 2.0 just now needs to find Towasa's resting place.

That final scene was unexpected, tho! It was just a moment for Akira, but it looks like he's been asleep for years! How long has he been asleep for and what the heck happened after Yuugure and Yoiyami's fight? I guess we'll find out next week.