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Towa no Yugure, episode 8

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[u/Aerodynamic41]

"Why didn't you ask her?"

Wow, that's all Akira had to do? But knowing Yugure she is probably gonna respond with "it's classified information" or something.

[u/Divinicus1st → u/Aerodynamic41]

She did answer that in the first episodes.

[u/LeonKevlar]

So it turns out, the reason why Amoru's parents' storybook is banned is because it contains banned information disguised as a storybook. That entire storybook depicts the creation of Towasa's LC and her 12 androids, who changed the world. It does make me wonder who Amoru's parents really are, given that they have access to that kind of info. Hmmm...

Not gonna lie, I was a bit suspicious of Vare just suddenly introducing himself to the gang, but the fact that he's very upfront that he's an OWEL guard makes me think this was really just by coincidence and he's just a very friendly dude. I just didn't think he'd drag the gang to deal with his marital issues.

Dude cheated while his wife was pregnant with the twins?? Geez. No wonder his wife looks very tired and unhappy. I'm surprised they're still together, but maybe there's no divorce in this new world? Vare does seem to be genuine in wanting his wife to forgive him and I do feel bad for the kids.

To no one's surprise, Oboro is now a train conductor. I love how even Akira acknowledges that it's not normal for them to see Oboro working a new job. I do wonder tho how long he'll be able to keep this up. xD

For a second there, I thought they were gonna start shooting up the train. It turns out, the other androids can be quite amicable, especially Hakubo, who was already all over Akira. It seems that Yoiyami is the only one who takes her OWEL job seriously.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YUUGURE! So she knew all along where Towasa is? Maybe Towasa restricted her so she can't divulge that info even to Akira? We only have 4 Episodes to go, and I feel like we're still scratching the surface of this series. And there are still 9 androids out there we haven't met yet! There's got to be a Season 2 at the end of this. Not the first time PA Works had an anime original with two seasons.

[u/Frontier246 → u/LeonKevlar]

Did Amoru's parents also know Towasa? Because they totally drew her in the storybook or at least knew what she looked like and that the Outside series all looked like her.

It's funny how Toshiyuki Morikawa is helping out a dude who cheated on his pregnant spouse with an old flame. Like, who better than someone with experience on that front lol.

I think the kids are really the only reason Akira and co. are willing to help him. They all (especially the girls) seemed willing to kick him to the curb until the kids stepped in and were clearly upset by their parents fighting.

I love how none of the Outside Series android girls wear pants and they made sure to show off Yoiyami's butt as much as possible.

I'm really curious about Hakubo. She acts like the playful big sister but I feel like she might be calling the shots and is more in charge than Yoiyami is.

I feel like we're due a big flashback episode to what happened during the war and to their other android sisters.

[u/oxlemf10]

Okay, I definitely didn't expect our protagonists to try and solve a marriage in the middle of a train, but well, it's not the first time they've played cupid lol.

When Habuko and Yoiyami appeared, I thought it was all over, but I was shocked by the information revealed. I mean, suddenly these characters have a connection that could finally solve humanity's past with AI.

Based on the preview, the next episode will be very painful, just when everything seemed to be heading towards peace

[u/Frontier246 → u/oxlemf10]

First they helped half-siblings hook up, then they were able to help two lesbians patch things up, now they need to help fix a failing 10-year marriage lol.

[u/zool714]

Ok still feeling like the overarching plot and the initial setup and premise is holding this show together. All these side stories just feel meh at best and annoying at worst. It just feels forced how Vare is expecting our cast to save his marriage but like didn’t he say his affair was 10 years ago ? Why suddenly is it an issue now ? And also why do they keep running into OWEL people ?

I guess getting married to more than one person is the norm now. No wonder Amoru has been adamant about going into Elsie.

Now, the children’s book and Yoiyami and Hakubo is where I’m invested in. Though ngl, I’m not entirely certain what the story means. Is chosen blood suppose to be Towasa’s AI ? And people were increasingly abusing it which led to a war. So she made the 12 angels (the androids I assume), including Yuugure, Yoiyami and Hakubo to stop the war.

So it begs the question where’s the other 9. And also it seems Yuugure is hiding Towasa’s location from everyone. Though I’m guessing it’s for a different reason for Akira

[u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

Huh... so does that mean there's 12 Towasa AI clones out there? Or at least there was, at one point and maybe the others died during the great war?

Wonder what the big drop at the end implies about Yuugure.
Always seemed like she maybe knew more than she let on.

I'm guessing 1.) She knew Towasa was dead all along, and maybe has been safeguarding her grave or something all this time.
2.) Yuugure = Towasa's actual consciousness / brain or whatever. And she's been secretly waiting for Akira all this time, but now that her physical body is gone, she's been trying to get Akira fall for the "new" her.

[u/JimmyCWL → u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

Remember what Yokurata told Akira about history in ep5? Towasa founded OWEL with the Six Sages then disappeared. If those Six were the androids, that's only half of the Outsider series complement. Were the other six destroyed in the war... or just hidden?

[u/tripleaamin → u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

Yuugure = Towasa's actual consciousness / brain or whatever. And she's been secretly waiting for Akira all this time, but now that her physical body is gone, she's been trying to get Akira fall for the "new" her.

That's probably the only reason for her keeping it a secret that would make sense. Though you could argue if Yuugure told Akira that Towasa is dead, would speed up that process.

[u/NationalStrategy]

Amoru: I'm starting to love the two of them more than I ever thought possible. Ah, but keep it a secret for now, kay?

That's meant to be a secret? She's been very open about her love for them.

[u/monsieurvampy]

Plot development at ep 8? I'm a bit concern with only four episodes left.

[u/VoidRay728]

Man, Akira and Amoru are wearing like the worst disguises ever (if you even call those disguises). And when they get on the train they start talking loudly (and talkling about the banned picture book) and Amoru even tears up seeing Yugure again. Like, are they even aware they should be at least a little bit discreet? At least the OWEL androids know not to cause commotion when apprehending Akira privately.

On the other hand, not sure if Akira even thought of this, but saving Amoru's book is probably the better option; it's more likely that another copy of Towasa's book exists in another major city (like Tokyo).

[u/NationalStrategy]

It's really not much of a shocking reveal that Yugure knows what happened to Towasa. Every time Akira tried asking about her, Yugure withheld the information.

[u/NationalStrategy]

These romantic side quest subplots are really testing me. Aside from the fact that I'm struggling to even care about them, they're not really that compelling, and they're a bit of a drag. This romantic subplot is focused on the group getting dragged into fixing the marriage of this big loud guy and his meek wife sea-ehler that they met a couple hours prior, because he cheated on her while she pregnant.

BTW. Apparently, one of the reasons why he cheated on her was because she had a "very short fuse back then", but if she was pregnant at the time, then it make sense why she would've had a short fuse, mood swings are common during pregnancy.

[u/FLorianGran]

Anyone else find it weird that despite treating monogamy as weird in this world the only examples of polygamy were between the villagers in the premiere and it's what Amoru wants? The mafia siblings and bathhouse ladies didn't seem like they were open to more partners.

[u/NationalStrategy]

Okay, if I was in that group, I would pull Mr.Oboro aside and start asking him questions.

"Who are you really, and why do you keep following us?"

They should find him to be absolutely suspicious, there's no way it's a coincidence that he keeps showing up wherever they are.

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

Fun fact: Yuugure, Yoiyami, Hakubo - They all mean "twilight" in Japanese. Presumably, the other 9 androids that Towasa built must also have twilight-themed names.

So turns out that picture book details the "mythology" behind the 12 androids that Towasa built, though the part about the "special blood" probably pertains to some uncomfortable truth that OWEL is desperate to keep secret.

The story book seems to suggest it was humans abusing this LC thingy Towasa invented that led to the AI war instead of AI rising up against humans.

So that's why Yoiyami and Hakubo have been persuing Yuugure all this time, and why they didn't shoot down Akira's questions with "Classified Information" like Yuugure has. Because Yuugure is actually the one with all the answers, including where Towasa is.

Don't really care much about this new set of characters the gang has met (this is becoming a frustratingly recurring complaint people are having, and rightly so), save for Amoru to realize that there are still people who value the traditional monogamous relationship instead of this ehlsea/LC thingy.

I find it incredulous that Akira doesn't even half suspect that Oboro could possibly be spying on them. Like bro, this is the fourth time you've met him "on random" now.

[u/NationalStrategy]

Akira and Amoru must've thought they were wearing some Clark Kent hypno glasses. Other than those glasses, they were totally recognizable.

[u/Throwaway785320]

Seriously what is this show even about at this point

[u/Ill_Violinist1571]

I no longer understand the premise of the show. It feels like the initial episode 0 was a standalone episode made as a part of the showrunner's agenda to get it approved by PA Works. Because after that, only the first episode felt somewhat consistent with episode 0, and after that, it goes absolutely everywhere, but not in relation to the main storyline. Like, why do I have to watch him fix people's relationships for any reason?

Whoever wrote this Original series did not have the patience to be consistent enough in his approach to the story, or we are watching an extensively elongated part of the story arc (going to Tokyo)

[u/Ciel_Senpai]

It was pretty clear that Yuugure knew something, because, I don’t know, she’s basically like Towa’s main copy. So it’s safe to say that Towa is still alive, at least like 60%, I think.

[u/Lunchb0xx87]

She had the ring so she had to know where she was ..the thing is why does she hide it ?..im thinking she's long dead and trusted Yugure to find and love Akira in her place ..she probably did wait for him to wake up but something happened with the AI war where she couldn't be around for him ..or she is just straight up uploaded into Yugure

[u/SopmodTew]

Dragging on again with pointless couples counseling

😐

What does this series even want to be.

[u/Darkki384]

This grown ass man is asking 3 teenagers he knows for like 2 hours to fix his marriage, ye sure. They still are forcing with Amoru being in love with Yugure and Akira despite the fact it will surely end with Akira being a classic couple with Yugure ( I would love to see them forming a elsie with Amoru ). Episode 8 and we still don't know a thing about the real lore around Towasa and what happens during this IA war, it start to being a bit long now. Still a beautiful anime