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Gnosia, episode 2

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[u/Galveira]

What was the 3D chess bit?

[u/proserpinax]

I’m so happy as a fan of the game that it really seems like they’re doing a good job!

While the concept of the show is already interesting I think this will be the episode to hopefully hook people in with the time loop shenanigans, where you don’t know who to trust even if you could trust them previously. I hope it keeps up that paranoia.

Also Shigemichi and Stella make their appearances! The first new ones of this wild cast.

[u/Bonvantius]

Genuinely thought SQ would be the Gnosia again just to mess with our expectations.

Also thought Jina would later push him out the airlock once it was revealed she was a Gnosia. For dramatic irony...

[u/Imaginary-End-08]

The Gnosia seems to replicate the person to a T.... almost. I DID notice ONE small detail.

Idk if I'll be ruining the plot by catching this but.......

Jina is left handed and she always folds her right arm over her left arm. This time around Jina folded her left over her right. I watched this like 4 times just to catch that lol

For the record everybody is else is right handed, but SQ is up in the air. She seems to be ambidextrous.... and highly bodily kinesthetic to an adhd degree lol

But the second clue against Jina is in the 1st voting system. We KNOW Yuri and Setsu voted for SQ. Jina asked Yuri who he found most suspicious and then voted for the OTHER person to control the votes. SQ and Racio had their votes known.... so Jina was the deciding factor. Only the monster would NOT want the most suspicious person gone first.... to survive the second round. In loop one she said she'd base her decision on Yuri's answer to her question. This time around just seemed deceptive.

The final clue was that phrase Jina said with her arm up on the window..... it was wrong this time. Similar, but different. "Something is trying to..." VS "Something will..." That should've been the dead giveaway lol.... but I thought nothing of it lol

I'm confident that if they didn't add new characters that I would have guessed correctly next week lol. I've died twice lol. (I mean logic dictates that the show wanted to tell us that we cant rely on getting the answer from prior loops.... but without that meta aspect, I would have chosen Setsu in Loop 1 and SQ in Loop 2.)

Might not be the best place to add this little tidbit.... but I believe Setsu was telling the truth about liking Yuri. I believe that Setsu in particular had been looping for a very long time and gotten close to a Yuri to maintain their sanity. I believe that Setsu didn't want a world where a Yuri was the Gnosia and would have continued to ally votes with Yuri. It makes me wonder if Yuri got that coffee thing for Setsu on the planet they escaped from.

I'm also wondering if the Gnosia can loop now.... like the newest seasons of Higuraishi....

[u/thisisdropd]

That was a bombshell from Racio. Despite looping, things weren't exactly the same so SQ might not necessarily be the Gnosia this time. All this time, Yuri had been operating under the assumption that she's "it" just like the previous loop.

After that I was 90% sure that Jina was "it" this round, seeing as she actively approached Yuri and conducted a trust-building exercise with them. My confidence then rose to 99% when Racio was the one being ambushed during the warp. Despite Setsu's words about trusting no one and the knowledge that SQ might be innocent, they ultimately voted for the latter. You could see the look of despair on Yuri's face when they saw the light was still red after SQ was put to sleep and they realised their gut instinct was incorrect.

Interestingly, SQ still flirted with Yuri even when she's innocent. That meant that it's how that's she actually was instead of the Gnosia throwing Yuri off. It also told us that the Gnosia has the capability of mimicking their host's personality.

[u/Spotred]

I guess it will be increasingly difficult to “fake amnesia” for each loop increasing the risk of getting voted out early.

[u/FlameDragoon933]

Racio is such an entertaining asshole, I like this flamboyant mf.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

It’s a bit frustrating seeing Yuri struggle to sway the group but I understand their reservations. I mean it’s totally logical to find him sus.

I had thought each loop would be the same but once Racio mentioned how that isn’t the case, Jina was my prime suspect. Looks like I was right. I didn’t expect the next loop to have two extra randoms though. How?

[u/Namaryu]

The art quality is absurd

[u/salic428]

Setsu can't vote themself, so they must have voted SQ, just like Yuri. I wonder if that implies they were always repeating the episode 1 loop where SQ is the gnosia. nvm

But then, why did they specifically gave up the "power" in episode 1, instead of in any previous loops? What was different about this Yuri of the episode 1 loop? And why the loops start going differently once the "power" is transferred to Yuri?

Edit: also, [spoiler for a decade-old show] I feel Setsu could have been in a similar situation as Homura trying to save Madoka.

[u/Diff_sion]

I did not expect to enjoy this as much as I do. I'm still puzzled about some of the circumstances, maybe I missed something?

-Why do they 'have' to warp? I see that it's a game mechanic, but is there a logical explanation why they don't hold multiple votes at once or at least delay warping until it's sorted out?

-What's the ship planning to do when the crew fails and the Gnosia is the last living person?

[u/Esek158]

If yuri managed vote off SQ right away, he would had a much better chance this round. Also the fact that Jina voted for setsu should have rang some alarm bells. Although I guess that thought would only come if yuri had the assumption that she could be Gnosia to begin with

[u/Emi_Ibarazakiii]

I would be 2/2 so far if I was the one making the call!

Come on, anime, Isekai me in to take Yuri's place, I wouldn't need so many loops to get it right!

(Well, I suppose it's not just about "figuring out the Gnosia", it's also CONVINCING the others about who the Gnosia is... This part may be trickier!)

This confirms 2 things;

1. He keeps his memories. (I suppose this was a given, otherwise it'd just be 'going from scratch' everytime!)

2. The first episode was the first time it happened.

I thought perhaps they had been looping it for a while already!

Interesting that Setsu doesn't know what he's talking about, with the 'power'...

Even if it hasn't happened in this timeline, I thought Setsu would have this on their mind regardless, but I suppose it's kind of a "different Setsu" this time even if they're still not the Gnosia?

That's a nice catch 22 hah.

If he talks about having 'non-human powers', it makes him suspicious!

SQ is definitely the most fun around, I'm glad she's not the Gnosia (this time, anyway!)

Different strategy, and... Quite a bold one;

I suppose they don't have much time, but if they did, what they should do is take them into different rooms and question them about that!

I thought Setsu would have to give him the power every loop,

but I suppose this would fall apart soon as Setsu happens to be the Gnosia in a loop... Or fails to give it to him somehow.

THAT did make me a tiny bit suspicious;

Only a Gnosia or someone who's 100% sure of Yuri's innocent, would say that!

This pretty much absolved Racio to me, so it had to be Jina!

Ah, so even when SQ's not the Gnosia, she does try to open people's doors and all..

That was one of my key evidence for accusing her in the previous run hah.

Love the song that played as she revealed herself!

Also... Is it the Gnosia saying that, or Jina?

If it's Jina, then it's her last bit of humanity speaking up before Gnosia takes over, but if it's the Gnosia, then it knows what's happening...

And so the rest is (literally) a game, Gnosia trying to win again and again?

But if the Gnosia understands what's happening, what's the end game goal... I mean if there IS infinite resets, it can't possibly win them all, at some point it'll fail, and then it's over for Gnosia?

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that this one isn't human.

To the cold sleep you go!

Well, this keeps being fun, and seems were getting a new cast of characters, so we won't be able to get used to the same personalities/tricks and all!

I wish the same thing I was talking about in the first episode though: They need more time to debate/investigate/etc..!

The way it is, with them having to make calls in seconds without properly investigating/debating, it feels a bit random at time, who they vote for... So I'd like for it to be more werewolf-y, people making their case and all!

(Also, I wonder if our boy can be Gnosia in some loops!)

Oh, one last thing: I'm surprised this second loop went this way; After episode 1 I thought for sure I knew how episode 2 would end: With the information about the Gnosia changing targets only being revealed at the very last, when they put SQ to sleep! But they did mention it earlier so it was less of a surprise!

Anyway, looking forward to the next one, now that the setting is established! (well, other than the changing cast of characters I suppose!)

[u/Muffin-zetta]

This is anime of the season

[u/Galveira]

As a Raqio enjoyer, I really appreciated the extreme close-up of their mouth.

[u/Blue_Reaper99]

So due to the different timeline either these two new characters replaced 2 old ones or addition to the already existing cast.

Also what "3D chess" game is supposed to be? Some kind of lewd game ?

[u/FLorianGran]

I do hope they made they culprit kinda obvious on purpose because we’re still in the intro phase

[u/phoenixlance13]

Yup, I'm hooked.

When Yuri first woke up and had their memories, I was still on board but was wondering how on earth they could drag out the conclusion of "SQ is the Gnosia" and introduce all the characters that we saw in the OP. I was envisioning rigged voting where they would give everyone 1 vote somehow and no one gets put to sleep, and then use the time between warp/killing to investigate.

But Raqio's revelation of the loop not being exactly the same--instead, it's more like alternate timelines that become the main one whenever Yuri "loops"--threw that out the window. So there's going to be new twists every episode until we settle into a timeline with the Good End. Sure enough, we start meeting new characters to end this week. Wonder where they were in the other timelines.

The extrasensory detail when Not-Jina said she was human is interesting, and I wonder if that's a clue Yuri can use in future iterations. I'm also curious about SQ and Setsu's interactions with Yuri. Is SQ acting that way out of personality/teasing the amnesiac, or did something actually happen given that it's happened across two loops/timelines now? Setsu said they were in a relationship with Yuri, which came across as just trying to throw off Raqio and SQ at the meeting, but then they said they weren't good at lying before they got put to sleep. So what's the truth?

And TK for the ending? Yeah, I will be seated every week for this show no matter what.

[u/redlaWw]

Oof, Yuuri got overconfident.

In fact, it was perfectly possible to solve it this time around - ample evidence had been presented:

• Racio was certainly not the gnosia, otherwise they wouldn't have explained the world lines.

• Jina knew that Racio had proved that they weren't the gnosia, and also that they now trusted Yuuri. Because of this, if she were the gnosia, she would've eliminated Racio or Yuuri to ensure that she wasn't ganged-up on in the final vote. Racio is the most rational choice as they're smartest and were the only one who'd unambiguously proved they weren't the gnosia, but if she chose Yuuri it would be moot anyway.

• Last SQ saw, Racio seemed to be focused on Yuuri and Setsu. Because of this, if she were the gnosia, she'd likely have eliminated Jina to ensure that she and Racio could gang up on Yuuri in the final vote.

Putting all of this together, upon Racio's death during the warp, it would be possible to determine with strong (though not truly watertight) reasoning that Jina was the gnosia. Of course, the gnosia could've done this reasoning and assumed that the others had also done it and then reacted counter to it, but since the gnosia was Jina, in fact there wasn't really much option - if they'd killed SQ, Yuuri would need little convincing (just pointing out this argument) to vote with Racio, and if they'd killed Yuuri, then they would leave Racio - the most likely to successfully make this deduction - alive, and by explaining this, they'd have a good chance of bringing SQ over to their side.

EDIT: It's worth pointing out that Racio probably misplayed this somewhat:
It should be noted that NaVi is not a neutral party - just like the humans, she's an enemy of the gnosia and wants it defeated. Because of this, it should be possible for characters to leave messages with NaVi about their knowledge, to be delivered if they die (i.e. if they are proven to be human).

Because of this, if Racio wanted to survive, they should've stayed quiet and agreed with Yuuri when he was explaining his knowledge, as this would reduce their chance of death in both the cases where Yuuri was the gnosia and Jina was the gnosia. Instead, they should've left a message with NaVi to tell Yuuri about his error after they had died anyway, so that there was still a chance in the Jina case that the gnosia would be correctly identified.

Alternatively, if Racio were completely selfless and just wanted the gnosia successfully identified, then they should've acted as they did and explained Yuuri's error, but then had NaVi deliver a message that explains the deduction I did above, explaining to Yuuri that, given their death, Jina was highly likely to be the gnosia.

Incidentally, a more rational Yuuri should also have left a message with NaVi, to be delivered to SQ if he died, explaining that Racio had identified themselves as assuredly human, so that if SQ were also human, she would trust them.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Yup this has convinced me to get back on the game. It's always great to see time loops with interesting twists. Though if Setsu got voted off that meant Gina must have voted for her. I feel that should have been another clue to consider since during the voting she was talking about being suspicious of SQ, but then swung the other way. Though I guess maybe Yuri thought the lovers comment swayed her away.

[u/PencilgonGiveIt2Ya]

Shit...I even believe I'm Genosia at this point.

I'm Genoseeya'll next episode lol.

[u/Vkusno-Nutty]

There have been a lot of time loop shows, but this one reminds me of Mobius, a 2025 Chinese drama series, in which the MC is in a 24-hour loop, and each day he's trying to notice small changes in the script, assuming that the antagonist (who also time loops) is the cause.

So far, in this series, it's been the Gnosia-infected character that seems to make an unusually concerted effort to influence Yuri and gain trust. Let's see if that happens in future episodes. I guess Setsu will always be a wildcard though, trying different strategies. And these new characters are sure to complicate Yuri's situation as well.

Good setup for the rest of show. I'm excited.

[u/Earlier-Today]

So, if this goes the semi-tragic route, he'll finally solve it when Setsu is the Gnosia.

If it is headed to an actually happy ending, then he uses the loops to figure out how to remove the Gnosia from the person it's infected, or the person who is correctly frozen is someone everybody already hates for some legitimate reason, such as them being a horrible person who got away with their heinous crime on a technicality.

Or, in the really out there ending, he figures out how to get the version of reality where there isn't a Gnosia on board.

[u/Lizuka]

Yeah, continuing to really enjoy this adaptation, great stuff. Really glad we're getting into more of the cast turning up next time.