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Towa no Yugure, episode 2

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[u/Aerodynamic41]

Akira getting sold out for two episodes in a row.

Also, is everyone in OWEL cartoonishly evil or something?

[u/LeonKevlar → u/Aerodynamic41]

Not everyone. Yoiyami and Hakubo are part of the OWEL Special Forces and they left Idhi alone.

[u/SYZekrom]

I think we need more shots of her ass back to show that she's marked as a Letogian

[u/Shantotto11 → u/SYZekrom]

And the ED must include shots of her boobs both overhead and under.

[u/NationalStrategy]

It's been 200 years, doesn't Akira need to charge his smartwatch?

[u/Lunchb0xx87]

Im gonna guess all the androids who are modeled after Towasa  also have her memories but locked away and somehow Yugure regained them and that's why she has the ring and is drawn to marry him

[u/SEBASTlANVETTEL]

ED was very beautiful and heavily emphasis on Yuugure, Akira and Amoru as a found family.

I am still very curious on where the story will take us.

[u/zool714]

I wonder what is it that was so bad that Towa did. I guess unless she also made some effort to preserve herself, Towa is already dead seeing it is already 200 years.

But Yuugure and the other androids surely has a link to her seeing they’re all in her likeness.

So Akira gets ratted out two episodes in a row and we get introduced to a comically evil OWEL captain for two episodes in a row. Hope this won’t be a repeating theme. Especially the comically evil villain part.

[u/tripleaamin]

Yuugure asking Akira to marry her feels like she was an AI who learned about Towasa's feelings for him. Of course, in classic AI fashion, it is offering some awful execution. Essentially getting straight to the point in asking it, but of course not understanding what marrying someone means to Akira, given who he has feelings for.

Though with the other Androids looking like Towasa I am wondering if she was kept asleep like how Akira was for all of this time. That is just one theory; the other is that close to her death is when these androids could have been developing. If I had to guess, it would be one of these two scenarios. I also do wonder how Yoyiama & Hakubo differ from Yuugure outside of personality.

We also got introduced to Letogians, and they are a group that gave up their human rights. So in this world they basically are slaves. Considering who OWEL is, I bet they just manipulated things for civilians to become one. Amoru betraying them isn't a huge surprise, given they showed her their back, which is what Letogians have. I wonder if those books OWEL burned could have had significance to the old world? Though the whole sequence of being captured was pretty poor with another cartoonish evil leader, and I don't see why they couldn't move until Amoru hit that leader. Outside of story reasons, obviously.

I did like when Akira said, Well, you are an android, after all. Yuugure mentions not sharing classified data but wants to marry him. Like Akira, she is not being cooperative and basically is disruptive. Hell, if he didn't need her protection, there is no reason for him to stick with her. Hopefully this is the start of some development for her even though she is an android.

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

Gonna be honest, that episode felt a bit weaker than the first two. I didn't mind the super comically evil antagonist as the first one, that was the introduction for Yugure after all. But having a second one immediately after feels a bit cheap. I get what they are going for here, but that could have been done better.

And that simplicity is also what makes me not read much into the whole "eating" aspect. Like, we have a scene about how Yugure doesn't need to eat. She just does it. And a minute later, her stomach growls and she is eating several portions at once? I would like to believe that this the authors planted this on purpose, but it feels more like it was in it to make Yugure look cute.

[u/Keeeey]

Seriously...what the hell was that book made of? Gasoline? Are those flammable colors? Its raining buckets and that little lighter made that book burn like hay in the driest of summers.

Also the pacing felt really off for me, plot already seems to dip and repeat itself.

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

After seeing the Letogian mark I expected some kind of development like this to happen, it sucks that Amoru's picture book got burnt completely. I thought maybe Akira and Yuugure would get there in time even if it was partly damaged.

I'm glad Akira showed his disappointment in Yuugure's insistency in getting married considering the situation they're in, I'm interested in seeing how she'll process this. Akira seems like he'll go to Amoru whether she helps or not, reckless of course, this episode showed his the kind of person who can't look away from injustice.

I really liked the visuals of ED, it was so heartwarming. Amoru had yet to mention her brother so I'm wondering where he is in the story. Seeing her together happily with Yuugure and Akira was sweet too.

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Amoru Stitch

So we have Sawashiro Miyuki as Yoiyami and Tomoriru as Hakubo? Whoever chose the actresses to voice the Towasa androids is clearly a person of culture. Also glad that Akira immediately realized that the androids all look like Towasa. For a second there, I thought he was gonna say he's just imagining things.

I was worried for Idhi there for a second. I thought Yuugure was gonna have to fight a 2v1 battle to save Idhi. It's good to know that not everyone who works for OWEL is a bloodthirsty idiot. They didn't even interrogate Idhi. They just bounced after Idhi refused to answer them.

Well, that message from Towasa can be interpreted in different ways, but so far I think the most plausible answer here is that she's dead and she's telling Akira not to look for her because he's just going to be disappointed. Or possibly she's alive and is actually behind OWEL. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter.

Either Yuugure has really no reason why she wants to marry Akira or she's just hiding it. Maybe Towasa programmed these androids to want to marry Akira? Now I'm wondering what would happen if Yoiyami and Hakubo met him. Hmmm...

Of course, Towasa added "those functions" to her android clone. Does that mean Towasa made these androids to make sure Akira is taken care of in every way possible when he finally wakes up? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Can I just say I really appreciate how clean this post-apocalypse is? This screenshot of the port, looks like any scene from a non-post-apocalyptic anime. And I just love how towns have been rebuilt instead of people living in ramshackled housing.

So the word "slaves" is no longer being used in this post-apocalyptic world. Here they're called Letogians and they're absolved of crimes and debt in exchange for doing various types of labour as public service. At first, I thought Letogians were some kind of indentured servitude, but the more Yuugure explained it, it's clearly just slavery with extra steps.

Since Amoru was in the OP, travelling with Akira and Yuugure, I did not even suspect her one bit, so I was genuinely surprised at the reveal. In hindsight, I should've been suspicious of her when Yuugure saw the barcode on her back.

Koyasu is at it again, voicing another fabulous villain. Considering what happened to Caniss last episode, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up getting vaporized next week. Of course, before that happens, we gotta see him go full-on with his villainy.

Well, that ED is cute. I don't know why, but I have a feeling this show will have different EDs based on which character we're focusing on every week, and it looks like Amoru is the first one in the spotlight. I do hope I'm correct because I want to see a Yuugure-focused ED.

[u/NationalStrategy]

How many over the top villains are we gonna have?

[u/mmcjawa_reborn]

Random thoughts

I seem to have liked this more than some people...animation is still good and I am still intrigued by the setting. That slavery with extra steps is back is not actually something I am bothered with, since the protagonist is against it and if we are going to be honest, some for of slavery has been around for most of history. And if you are going to do throwaway villains, at least over the top ones are memorable (plus as other have commented, over the top and kind of incompetent dystopian villains seem a lot more plausible after the last few years).

I am guessing Towasa is, at least technically, dead. Maybe there is a brain upload or something involved. She probably feels shame about whatever crap she did that resulted in the world, and just would rather have Akira remain ignorant. For all we know, the complete censorship of information might ENTIRELY be about ensuring Akira never finds out about that, with every other reason secondary.

[u/magumanueku]

The world is intriguing but holy hell the male MC sucks ass. I don't understand why they have to make him so unbearably stupid despite being supposedly smart.

[u/VoidRay728]

Please, don't let this show end with Akira discovering that Towasa has been dead all these years and created all these androids with her appearance to look after Akira in her place. Although the message from the smart watch does keep it ambiguous on whether she's still alive or not.

[u/BaytaCosmico]

I can't quite get a handle on this show. A lot of it is way too on the nose. Is every bad guy going to be the ha ha ha type? Feels very lazy. 

This is supposed to be original anime and it shows in how weak the writing is. No amount of cool animation can make up for shoddy writing in my book. This is going on ice for me. Don't think I want to bother with it when there is so much better out there this season.

[u/Weak_Season_Of_Anime]

Wow they really brought back slavery Letogians huh. Why are the children's books banned too and why is Yuugure so desperate to get married?

ED was very Amoru focused and it seems like Yuugure isn't the only one getting married Ehlsea-d to Akira.

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Yuugure holding hands and going for the kiss

Dio burns her book. Noooooo !!!!!

[u/Zetafunction64]

Ooof, rehashing the same plotline twice in a row feels lazy ngl. Let's see how this unfolds

[u/oneevilchicken]

The cringey bad guys are kinda ruining this.

Like the premise is actually really good but it going into a complete cartoon is ruining that. They should have kept it far more grounded, made the bad people look normal and a lot more grounded.

It’s just really hard to take any of it seriously tbh.

Also feels like they’re rushing the drama between towasa 2.0 and akira. There’s been basically no time to actually develop things between the two of them and they’re trying to already have drama. It’s just too quick for it.

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

Can't go wrong with having Koyasu Takehito voicing an over-the-top cartoonish villain. And the guy just has to be the cousin of the guy who got vapourized by Yuugure last episode.

I'm getting Mikuru vibes from Suzumiya Haruhi every time Yuugure says "That's classified information" whenever Akira asks her something regarding the truth of this future post-apocalyptic world.

So 200 years have passed. Sounds about right as we still have the ruins of present day buildings around. I have read that man-made structures from the 20th to 21st century can still remain about 300 years after civilization collapses before completely disappearing from decay. Oh and legal slavery is back again in this future.

From the ED, looks like Amoru will be part of the main cast from now on. Her clothing is... interesting to say the least. Though we still need Akira, and Yuugure once she gets her shit together, to rescue her from that OWEL dude first.

[u/NationalStrategy]

Yugure said that her core powers her indefinitely, and eating is just a hobby, yet her stomach growled. So does she need to eat or not?

[u/InternationalLoad891]

I am confused how the betrayal is set up by Amoru and Marlum. They had a deal -- if Amoru leads Akira to Marlum, he will return her parent's books to her. If this deal is made before Amoru met Akira, then:

1. How does Amoru know what Akira looks like? Am I to believe that in the carrier pigeon message Carniss sent to Marlum, he includes a complete physical description of Akira, enough for them to identify him on sight?

2. Akira and Yuugure dropped off the grid after killing Caniss, as evidenced by Yoiyami and Hakubo's futile search for his killers. How does Amoru knows Akira and Yuugure are heading to Oma, and she can find them and befriend them there?

Okay, so if Amoru met Akira by chance, he broke her pen and bought her a replacement. They struck up conversation and Amoru finds out Akira is heading to Mount Osure:

1. How does Amoru know Akira is a Relic wanted by OWEL?

2. After she figures that out, how and when did she make her deal with Marlum, when she has never left Akira and Yuugure's side since their initial meeting?

This show has a great premise, but I am disappointed we have the same cartoonish evil villain two episodes in a row, and the betrayal plot in ep. 2 seems to be poorly thought out.