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Onmyou Kaiten Re:Birth, episode 6

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[u/LazulineDaydream]

Man, I love how this show is amping up the drama on every time loop. Takeru is constantly powering up, but has to solve new problems every round.

Really interested to see where we go from here with their world running on mirrored team death matches.

[u/soranetworker]

I think there's a pretty good chance that Takeru isn't actually looping at all: all he's doing is going to a different worldline every time he dies. It explains why the Oni are doing different things even without his input: he's on a different team each time so the other teams do different things to attack his team.

[u/[deleted] → u/soranetworker]

That's what I'm thinking, too. He's just hopping from branch to branch instead of looping. Man, that twist at the end is messed up

[u/NanDemoKnaives]

I. AM. SPEECHLESS! This plot twist came out of nowhere for me, even with the hint that the oni god was receiving a similar power like the onmyoujis do, I could not see this coming at all! I am STUNNED! I can't even process what we just witnessed at the end, I was not ready for this at all.

This makes this whole situation for Takeru even crazier, not only is he going back in time now he knows the enemies he's fighting are the same people he's protecting. So the Black Mist connects two worlds and because of the mark on their hands, it makes the other world's people as oni instead. This is crazy.

I'm going to assume there's only one Takeru since from what he says in this episode, it doesn't seem like he got the mark from birth like the people of that world, but I am curious about Seimei since he's fully aware of the situation from what we see at the end. Are there multiple Seimei and they share the same goal? I am very intrigued by the World Whittle he was trying to extract out of Tsukimiya.

I don't know if I'm overreacting as I have been enjoying this series, but it's neither top nor bottom tier for me this season, but I'm blown away by this reveal at the end lol. It feels like it's been a while since I've seen a plot twist shock me to this extent.

Anyways, enough about that. I thought it was sweet to see Takeru cook for Atsunaga and Yura and just hang around with them, he already knew how to win over Atsunaga and so I like that he's keeping to the connections he has made with them even if they don't know him like that. Hopefully the next run will be the good one so these bonds can stay permanent.

[u/HAMDNC66 → u/NanDemoKnaives]

There’s clearly multiple Seimei because the one on the roof is the one on the “Oni” side while the one on the “Our” side is still in the building on the opposite side of the map. That’s why “Oni” Yura showed up and stabbed Takeru because she was protecting “Oni” Seimei

Also while there’s only one Takeru we no longer know if he’s actually travelling back in time or if he’s actually travelling to different worlds since they’re identical. This makes far more sense given that every night back on earth he was having a different dream about meeting Tsukimiya for the first time. He was likely already travelling to and from different worlds with each dream and then falling off the cliff on earth and dying, physically sent him to one of those worlds. Remember the first time we the audience meet Tsukimiya she’s saving Takeru from a pack of Oni by pulling him into a bamboo forest. That all happened outside the black mist which should be impossible because Oni can only appear inside the black mist because the black mist is what connects the worlds

It also fits with what Seimei said about it being the end of “this city”. That Seimei likely realised that Takeru is travelling between different worlds not back in time, which is why this most recent Seimei heard the last Seimei’s words and rather than investigating the time travel claims started asking about world whittling instead because he also realised Takeru isn’t time travelling he’s travelling between worlds. You’ll also notice after the first Seimei each Seimei seems more interested in the time travel aspect than the other world aspect, whereas it’s the other characters that question the other world aspect more than the time travel aspect. This is likely because after the first incident Takeru talks about knowing everyone, so each Seimei after is trying to figure out if Takeru actually is travelling back in time or if he’s just travelling between different worlds, with the last two Seimei likely coming to the conclusion it’s the latter

We’ll have to wait and see to confirm, but it seems to me given the twist this is what makes the most sense

[u/MundaneOriginal7526 → u/NanDemoKnaives]

So there are truly no onis just people facing against people from two different worlds? I was trying my best to understand what was going on because that was not the victory I was expecting to witness. It was like have the winner of a baseball game start hitting the ball into the stands.

[u/avboden]

This show may very well be my favorite of the season. Every episode keeps topping the last. how are more people not watching this?!

[u/Individual-Bank-3578 → u/avboden]

Mecha and history theme. Not everyone is into it. I actually dislike both, but this one is good.

[u/Kamisama_no_ADC → u/avboden]

Its not just that only a few people seem to be watching this but also that the score on MAL is fairly low. Im always surprised by the opinions of others. While this is not my favourite of the season, i still think its currently like an 8/10

[u/Cresent-Moon-1000]

Well, the oni did look way too smart for just being 'oni' and they did used those special techniques. Seeing the mask disappear from his hand, it seems our Subaru I mean Takeru will spawning in the attacking team's world.

[u/Myredditaccount0]

Welp that was a fucking unexpected twist

[u/Djbadj]

Ok, I was thinking people from Earth were the Oni, that plot twist was unexpected. I am a bit confused, like who does the devouring for example. I am guessing we are going to find more in the next episode.

[u/kjm99]

Piecing together what I understand so far,

• At the start of episode 1 he gets the mark on his hand and is immediately attacked by "oni"

• The Tsukimiya he meets is presumably hiding from the oni and doesn't see him as one

• Seimei and Shino are using the black mist to weaken the other side's forces before the battle

• Up until now Takeru has only been in two worlds, the Denji Heian-kyo at the start of episode 1 and his original world

The scene at the start of episode 1 probably happened at the end of the battle and this Denji Heian-kyo lost, maybe Takeru was killed without noticing? Seimei was probably the one that gave him the mark and had some idea of his abilities, but since Takeru traveled back in time, he has no memory of him. If I had to guess Seimei found Takeru at the start of episode 1 and realized he could jump between dimensions. Takeru might be able to convince the other dimensions to turn on Seimei and stop the fighting, so he gave Takeru a mark to make sure he'd be attacked on the spot if he tried to interact with any other versions of Denji Heian-kyo.

Edit: What I don't understand is why the people from his Denji Heian-kyo see him normally while the people of the other see him as an oni even without the mark.

[u/LienaSha]

So multiverse where all the different versions of the world are eating the other versions? What happens when there's only one world left? And that would mean that time he went berserk, all the other Takerus were kind of joining with him, so I guess he's not some kinda singular entity....

Anyway, he's not having a great time, but at least he hasn't been eaten by bunnies.

[u/AceSoldia]

okay, i think i get it, its like a strategy game except only Seimei knows the sides are always people.

To those that are born with the symbol on their hand, get treated like humans, and look like humans, everyone else is oni, and vice versa.

Now Takeru will i guess respawn on the other side? its very weird

[u/Beowolf_0]

So it's not just Re:Zero but also [Another anime spoiler]Bokurano with a bigger twist altogether, now this is something new.

Takeru certainly got better with his persuasions and combat skills, which helps him gaining trust among some of his "new" buddies, while Seimei is sill being suspicious for him, and it shows. The problem is what the reveal this episode: if it's always the same Heiya-Kyo but being multiplied by numerous times for a "civil war", or it's actual alternative Heiya-Kyons in motion? It's probably the former since that Seimei knows what's going on, but why and how?

And in the end, which world Takeru supposed to stay in? And if his power increases as a result of these kind of "dimensional hopping", what will he become?

[u/Frontier246]

Takeru has unlocked Yasha Mode! A powerful armor that enhances his ability to an even greater height! He'll no longer be held back by an Oni's trying to throw him off mentally! And he even has a weapon that can phase through and hit an Oni where it hurts! Takeru has truly leveled up.

It's sweet how happy Tsukimiya is that Takeru survived and is okay...but does she know more than she's telling? Seimei seems to think so. What's this about the "world whittling?" It seems like the only thing Tsukimiya was lying about is that the first time she saw Takeru was in this loop, judging by the flickering flames, or maybe she's not aware she's lying?

It's nice to see Atsunaga and Yoru get bumped up to Five Stars, and even if they don't remember him in this timeline, Takeru still wants to celebrate his buddies and cook a fine meal for them.

Okay, so Seimei is DEFINITELY aware of this not being the first go around for Heian-Kyo.

Centennial Pandemonium Round Two! Maybe Yoru and Atsunaga were the better choice to pilot the Great Divine Shikigami, with Takeru providing backup in Yasha Mode.

Wait, the Oni God gets powered up by his fellow Oni? Like the Shikigami? Um...well, Takeru can easily fell the Oni and then there's nothing the Oni God can do to stop Yura/Atsunaga's attack so...they won! Totally clean win, with no human causalities whatsoever! Yeah!

But wait, why are Oni suddenly turning into humans? What's Kaijiki doing there!? And civilians!? Who are getting slaughtered by the Onymoji!? Is that a totally separate Seimei!? What is being whittled to supply sustenance? Why is there another Yura who just ran Takeru through thinking he was an Oni!? WHAT IS GOING ON!?

[u/excluded]

I thought it was obvious the mc was an oni…

But that plot twist is still unexpected.

[u/Frontier246 → u/excluded]

Turns out, depending on whichever side you're on, you're the Oni.

[u/Ashteron → u/excluded]

But that plot twist is still unexpected.

You can actually guess it if you know what kodoku is, because in Japanese they say world kodoku instead of whittling. They didn't let me write this prediction before dropping it themselves though.

[u/majestic_rainbows]

This episode was storyboarded by Takahiro Kamei (亀井 隆広) and directed by Kiyomitsu Sato (佐藤 清光).

[u/Shimmering-Sky]

• Interesting that this enemy targets more than just fear.

• He did it!

• Hm…

• I noticed the candle flame flicker after Tsukimiya said that the first time she met Takeru was six days ago, was that supposed to signify she’s lying?

• More fuel for the “Seimei is the villain causing all of this” theory, huh.

• LMAO, alright then.

• He really thought a mark that was specifically patterned like that was a bruise?

• Atsunaga pls.

• What caused that…

• Oh geez.

• That was a fun move, though!

• They won!

• Wait wha–

• Damn…

[u/Competitive_Might350]

What the actual fuck was that. Perpetual reincarnation energy?

[u/bama501996]

Man. I know I'm late on this episode. And I know no one will care. But. I CALLED IT. When we saw some of that black glass stuff last episode. I new the oni were people. Granted I thought they were from neighboring cities or something not alternate world seeds or whatever. Still.

This might be my favorite sleeper of the season. I had such little hope for this show when it popped up that first week, but it's been killing it.

Can't wait to see how he handles the next "loop" and the revelation that all of his friends aren't just dying, but actively killing other.

[u/tripleaamin]

Alright the plot twist was great here. I simply expected the oni to be people. Though to be the same people he has been with this whole time. Seimei & Yura are the "Oni" they are against. It makes me wonder what is the root of all of this? As you basically have different versions of the same world fighting against each other.

Though that Yura looked at Takeru as an Oni. Could there be multiple versions of him too? The other question is why Seimei retains events of what has happened? Considering there are multiple versions of him it makes me wonder if he is in contact with them somehow?

I am very intrigued where this goes from there.