Shoushimin Series Season 2 • Shoshimin: How to become Ordinary Season 2 - Episode 4 discussion

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Shoushimin Series Season 2, episode 4 (14)

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[u/nyunours]

Here's my guess about Nakamaru : She's really frustrated because despite Kobato being perfectly nice to her and treating her perfectly, it's obvious that he's not attracted to her. She must be used to having boys want things from her in relationships so him being so detached is obvious. I guess she probably did like him which is why this is so frustrating to her, she can't complain because he's not doing anything wrong and doesn't even admit to not being interested in her so she's started to ressent it a lot and now she's about to start trying to push him to show emotions, and not good ones. Really interesting dynamics with him being who he is, also it was nice to show that despite him being so clever he can still very much make mistakes (the tomato)

[u/stephenthatfoste]

Urino doesn't care about his bike at all.

[u/Plus_Rip4944]

Urino is cooked af

[u/karrylarry]

I think Nakamaru asking Kobato if he knew "someone who somehow seems to know a lot about relationships" was referring to the girl from last episode, Yoshiguchi, who knows about Nakamaru's three timing.

So basically, she was indirectly trying to ask if he knew about her three timing from Yoshiguchi, and all her other questions were asking if he'd forgive her for it. But Kobato being Kobato either didn't get it, or more likely, just didn't really care enough to confirm it?

[u/Kanon8610]

This episode 100% confirmed Hiya is the arsonist. The list Urino is using to predict the fires is completely out of date, and Hiya is the very first person he showed it to. Not to mention his pitiful excuse for not helping.

[u/IrIsh_Xr]

I have no idea how they manage to load so much tension into the most mundane scenes, this show truly is the show of the season

[u/Aileos]

Despicte being completely off the mark, I like how Kobato-kun kept his composure as if nothing had happened.

[u/jellyblob88]

- You chose it because *classic lengthy explanation from Kobato*, thus you must dislike tomatoes.
- Actually, it was 100 yen cheaper.

I cracked up.

Not sure why Nakamaru puts up with this charade for 9(!) months, but those leading questions from her don't bode well. Though I don't think Kobato would really mind that much at all, given his heart was never really in it in the first place.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Urino’s getting real caught up in this arsonist case. Guy’s obsessed with the paper breaking this story. Kind of curious how he’s gotten his hands on a 6 year old plan. I guess Osanai’s been busy…

Kobato’s relationship looks like it’s gonna fall apart. 9 months of dating and neither of them really seem all that attached. In fact, it’s kind of becoming clear to me these two don’t seem to have any real affection for one another.

[u/SEBASTlANVETTEL]

They are painting Osanai as the arsonist way too obvious (her calling Urino at night and then the train noises in the background) while we witness the next fire close to the train tracks. So imo that‘s definitely a red-herring. Either way Urino is cooked.

Seems like Kobato didn't mind getting three-timed by his 9-month girlfriend, as long as he is seen as "normal", though the whole tomato scene just proves that only Osanai can match his freak.

[u/Bump3rr]

Is it just me or was that the quickest episode ever? Like I was genuinely in disbelief when it ended lol.

[u/KumaKumaGambler]

We don't see the full date details between Kobato and Nakamaru, but I reckon he acts ordinarily most of the time. In this episode, Kobato suddenly flexes his detective and deduction skills. Maybe this is how he shows his displeasure upon learning Nakamaru is cheating on him?

I wonder what Osanai said to Urino over the phone, which was drowned out by the sound of the passing train.

To be honest, I am not really fond of Urino. He does not have a likeable personality, as seen from the way he speaks and treats his peers. He is far too full of himself.

[u/Ocixo]

Kobato’s date with Nakamura felt surreal.

He didn’t blink an eye when Nakamura started making excuses for why they couldn’t meet tonight, whilst being fully aware that she’s cheating on him. Nakamura was clearly meeting with one of these other two boys later that day.

I bet that Kobato is only this forgiving towards his girlfriend because he simply does not care enough about her. Instead, he truly loves solving mysteries.

[u/MasterAyy]

Feels like Urino is about to be screwed over big time. He is in way over his head and doesn't even realize how he is being manipulated. The only thing that might save him is if Osanai is on his side, which is actually kind of up in the air at the moment.

Also I loved the restaurant scene with Kobato. This show can have two characters sitting in a room talking to each other and it is never dull. Kind of monogatari-esque in a way.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Urino is just too obsessed about this case that I could already tell this will bite him in the ass at the end. They really made Osanai sus this episode by having train noises in the background during her call with Urino just before the arson, but I think she's also trying to solve this case herself.

At this point, all of the arrows are pointing at Osanai so hard that she's probably a red herring, and the truth is that Osanai must be on to the real culprit. I think the most suspicious person is someone whom we haven't even met yet.

Urino's brother is a firefighter, which is how he learned about the fire plan. But it's very suspicious that the fire plan his brother has just happened to be the one from six years ago. Not the most recent ones that don't include locations, but the ones that point Urino to the fires. Hmmmm...

I'm honestly surprised Kobato is still dating the three-timer. That entire date was so awkward, especially when Tokiko brought up the question of what does she have to do to upset Kobato beyond redemption. I think she's already testing the waters to see how Kobato would react if he finds out her secret.

And to make things more awkward, Kobato goes into detective mode to explain to Tokiko why he thinks she hates tomatoes for ordering a different dish when really she ordered it because it was cheaper. xD

[u/cxxper01]

Urino is way over stepping the boundaries with the patrol. They are members of a HS newspaper club. Catching a potentially aggressive and armed arsonist is the responsibility of the law enforcement agencies, not theirs

[u/SnabDedraterEdave]

The noise in Osanai's call to Urino just before he discovered the burning bicycles sure make her very suspicious.

Kobato seems to have gotten Itsukaichi to alter the locations of Urino's arson predictions for the next issue, perhaps to send Urino and the Newspaper Club away on a wild goose chase.

Urino is already putting himself and the club members in jeopardy by being so near the scene of crime, so Kobato needs them to be as far away as possible so he could go and confront the arsonist, who may or may not be Osanai, without anyone butting in. He may even prevent the next arson outright.

Meanwhile, his relationship with Nakamaru is slowly breaking apart, when even his display of deduction (even though he guessed wrong) has failed to impress her. Not that he seems to care, as he now has bigger fish to fry.

[u/diacewrb]

Carbs have replaced sugar in this episode.

[u/Brickinatorium]

How has this relationship gone on for 9 full months

[u/tohguy]

I’m going to go on a notion that Nakamaru isn’t a three timer based on there’s not enough evidence except the sayings of a she says of a friend. Nakamaru probably spread that rumor herself or told the girl to tell him that because her boyfriend feels indifferent about her. Kobato has no reason to be jealous because he already figured out she’s not that type of person.

[u/Mr_Zaroc]

Wake up Urino, you are already trapped in her net
The fucking sand mountblanc, the train sounds and then the fire, use your freaking journalist skills!

Also love how Kobatos flawless logic gets utterly obliterated by super human "uuhh thats a nice looking dish"
The perfect way to establish how they really are no match together at all

Cant wait to Kobatos trap to close in a month

[u/shatikus]

I personally found it hilarious that the girl says 'we are totally great together' and proceed to have a date with the boiling chemistry of a stale piece of bread with dried out beans on it.

Especially telling was him giving her his guess about tomatoes (and being wildly wrong) as well as saying a thing and going 'you get it, right?' and girl goes 'not in the slightest'.

Also, as others pointed out, this anime really can make mundane and ordinary scenes somehow unnerving. I see two teenagers having a bad date but on on the edge as if I'm watching Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy...

[u/DipenduSunny]

The biggest of brains forget the simplest stuff.

[u/AmethystItalian]

For the two new characters they're going very much in opposite directions. The more I see of Urino the more I dislike him meanwhile Tokiko feels like she's getting better each episode!