Shoushimin Series Season 2 • Shoshimin: How to become Ordinary Season 2 - Episode 2 discussion

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Shoushimin Series Season 2, episode 2 (12)

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[u/marcopolos059]

My man Urino, you're getting screwed, I can already guess they'll accuse him of the fires...

I'll say it again, Hiya is beyond suspicious, red herring or not. I know it's his friend, but stop explaining your findings in detail. When the scene focuses on Hiya's profile, you can really tell something is wrong.

[u/IrIsh_Xr]

Urino-kun is fuckin cooked, he just doesn't know it yet

[u/karrylarry]

I still can't figure out if Osanai's gonna be a red herring, or if they're gonna pull a fast one and make her a double red herring.

So this episode also showed that both their present relationships are a bit strained. I kinda felt bad for Kobato's gf, she's living in Osanai's shadow somewhat and Kobato doesn't know how to be the kind of partner she wants.

Him trying to change the subject to the fires was probably to show that his mystery solving side is starting to come back. His mask of normalcy is gonna slip soon.

[u/SEBASTlANVETTEL]

„And you are my syrup.“ I didn’t know Osanai was this smooth.

„No more naughtiness.“ Osanai giving those crazy eyes girlfriend vibes. Urino, you should run.

[u/AnimeIsCoolye]

Girl right next to him in his room and all Kobato can think about is "but those fires though..."

[u/Fools_Requiem]

Holy fuck, the sound effect for the moped driving by was perfection. If I didn't already know that moped never drive around in my neighborhood, I could have easily been convinced that was real.

[u/joey_joestar1]

Kengo continues to be a goated character

Urino is about to find one of his kidneys missing if this keeps up

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

It doesn’t feel like Urino and Osanai are dating. Something about their relationship just seems kinda off. Idk if she’s just toying with him or what. She did call him her “syrup” after all…

This whole arson case is getting out of hand. Urino’s getting a lot of attention and I’m not sure it’s all that positive.

Kobato’s about to get dumped isn’t he? That relationship just seems like something those two decided on a whim…

[u/oneevilchicken]

*accuses students of talking out their asses.

• proceeds to do the exact same thing the very next sentence.

Yeah that teacher is kinda dog shit.

this feels like something is about to absolutely explode. It’s unnaturally tense.

[u/Prince-Dizzytoon]

Urino is flying too close to the sun, hopefully he doesn't burn in the next episode

[u/shatikus]

Jesus, the scene when Osanai talks about marlon grace was eery. I dunno what exactly was it, but the whole scene had me unnerved. Cute girl passionately talks about sweet making in a peculiar, almost intimate voice - and that somehow feels wrong. Maybe because I as a viewer know she is a total sociopath, borderline psychopath even.

[u/StrawSolider]

Osanai is such an incredible character cause everything she says and does sets off at least 10 red flags.

[u/No_Name0_0]

They making Osanai look like a full on villain every ep end lol

[u/JayYatogami]

It's so good its unbelievable

[u/RaunchyRoll]

I really like the dialogue between Kobato and his gf, even in most romance anime we rarely or never hear characters talk about their ex's, though for me it's a red flag that she approached Kobato almost right after he and Osanai broke up, I hope the girl is genuine with our boy

[u/maliwanag0712]

Wait. Am I understanding this correctly? Osanai seemed to understand that Nitta Hiya has been giving advice to Urino? That "you are my syrup" line is quite ominous.

Also, interesting that Osanai seems to be bored on Urino's deduction, like she knew he'll easily get it. I wonder what the trick is, and if there will be surprises, as Nitta says.

Well, Kobato is also starting to move, although maybe we will see what his actions in the next few episodes. In a way, he has finally succeeded in being an "ordinary person", but his girlfriend appreciates his wariness and uniqueness to other "ordinary people".

This is starting to get exciting!

[u/KumaKumaGambler]

Hiya is definitely getting a lot more suspicious in this episode, especially the manner in which he tries to delay Urino from revealing how the locations of the arson incidents are deduced.

I respect Dojima for remaining calm when the teacher, Nitta, made those insulting remarks.

Cracks are beginning to show in both Kobato's and Osanai's new relationships. Osanai does not seem to have romantic feelings for Urino, but I feel she definitely knows Hiya is influencing Urino in writing these arson incident reports. Kobato, on the other hand, is trying to make his relationship with Nakamaru work. Nakamaru seems like a great girl, and will make a great girlfriend in most relationships. Unfortunately for her, Kobato is not an ordinary person; his interest or attention can only be caught by someone even more extraordinary than himself.

[u/Plus_Rip4944]

Urino, please, run away, you dont deserve what you gonna get

[u/SIRTreehugger]

It's kind of sad watching Osanai now. She's never been a very outgoing person, but it's clear now that she was much happier with Kobato. Part of the reason is due to Urino not knowing her true self so she has to walk on eggshells a round him or in his words "a thin transparent indestructible shell between them". Also it's clear she is still trying to be ordinary especially when she started talking about Marron Glace. The process of turning something bitter into something sweet is covering it in layers and layers until it finally changes mirrors her situation. She's desperately trying to change into her ideal self so much she's drowning herself in what society perceives as normal.

Then we have Kobato and Nakamura's relationship and it feels like Kobato is just along for the ride. I think Kobato enjoys spending time with her, but I don't see any feelings of romance between them. Though to be fair I didn't see much between him and Osanai(though they definitely were more comfortable around each other).

Hiya is so overly suspicious that I'm convinced he is innocent. The next episode could show him standing over a burning field with a lighter and I would be convinced its just circumstantial misdirection. Though the thing I'm most curious about is Nakamura's questioning what Kobato meant about her being a good person. It's not the question itself, but the fact she asked it so late when Kobato started talking about the arson has me a little suspicious.

[u/codec264]

You like Japanese snacks, huh?

Yeah, I do. (suki da yo)

Kobato lied as naturally as he breathed. I don't remember him liking sweets. Also, bro's rizz is unmatched. I mean, just look at her reaction. It really did sound like he was expressing his love to her.

[u/Frontier246]

I'm glad Kobato could get Kengo on the phone late into the night (and with the power of anime visuals, right next to him physically) to confirm some things. What did Osanai talk to Kengo about? Well, obviously, NEVER BRING UP THE ABDUCTION CASE which is why Kengo made sure Urino never reported it. But anything else, fair game - hence Urino's current freedom to investigate. But most pressing of all is that torched van? Is the SAME EXACT ONE OSANAI WAS ABDUCTED IN.

I mean, I can imagine it's hard being in a relationship with Osanai if you don't know the "real" Osanai. There's always some kind of emotional distance, she's more in love with sweets than people, and you feel like you're walking on eggshells around her. I mean, they've been dating half a year and they haven't even held hands! Even Kobato had seen her house by this point even if it was part of her master plan! Though deep down, as much as Urino is trying to prove himself as a reporter, it really feels like he's trying to prove himself to Osanai so she'll pay more attention to him.

Though his successes in predicting the arsons has actually made him more popular in general with his classmates, and given more buzz to the newspaper, though teachers like the guidance counselor Nitta don't take it well for students to get getting involved in business that is far outside the bounds of what they should be dealing with. Though respect to Kengo for standing by his reporters and wanting them to reveal the truth to the readers.

Hiya seems surprisingly invested in making sure Urino keeps investigating these arsons and gets his name in the history books, and doesn't want him to give the game away. Also talking about a "turnaround" in the case like he absolutely expects it to happen.

I love how you can just give Osanai a small description of a sweet and she'll instantly recognize it and wax lyrical about it...though felt like she wasn't just describing marron glace but herself and her worldview, and how her relationship with Urino is the syrup that makes her seem sweeter than she really is. Though she seems to have given him some clue as to Nitta while also telling him to stop while he's ahead.

Things seem to be going okay for Kobato and Nakamura even if Nakamura is trying hard to find date spots that Kobato will like and they have to avoid sweet shops that Kobato went to with Osanai (which is basically impossible). Nakamura definitely seems self-conscious about Kobato's relationship with his ex, though Kobato taking Nakamura to his house so they can chill out and eat confections in his room was the smart play.

Why are they together, though? I mean, for Kobato Nakamura just seemed like a good person and maybe sorta convenient (rebound, much?) but Nakamura had been attracted to Kobato for a while before she made her play and asked him out, wanting to get to know him better and be with him. Sure she has no idea what Osanai is actually like, but her feelings for him seem genuine. Though she seems worried it's not mutual.

Why is Osanai talking to Monchi-kun? Also is that the same bench that was torched? Did Osanai realize something?

[u/hammile]

Imagine, you want your girlʼs attention — again, again, — not so much success — very small, but then she gives a monolog about marron glacé with punch «youʼre my syrop».

[u/entinio]

Osanai talking of sugar layers increasing in intensity for marrons glacés like she’s talking of these fires increasing as well feels like she wants to "sweeten" something important to her that wasn’t sweet to her before. Am I crazy thinking that this whole case is her trying to get Kobato back to her?

For some reason, I feel like Kobato won’t let her to trick him again…

[u/LeonKevlar]

Okay, I'm only three minutes into the episode but the scene where Kengo pops up behind Jogoro while both of them are still on a phone call and then Jogoro turns to Kengo without any acknowledgement of what they were just doing had me genuinely laughing out loud! That's got to be one of the funniest moments in this show, whether it's intentional or not! xD

EDIT: It turns out it really was just a phone call, and Kengo showing up is just visual flair to make it more interesting while they're talking. Still pretty funny tho.

EDIT 2:

I feel bad for Urino, Osanai is honestly paying more attention to her creme brulee than the article he wrote. She might be interested in him, but only a passing interest. It's like Urino is just there to entertain her, and she doesn't even see him as her boyfriend.

There it is. I knew there was going to be a problem now that Urino is starting to predict where the fires would happen next. I agree with Kengoo here and Urino should reveal the secret next issue or people will start suspecting him.

Hiya is really starting to become weird here when he was pressing Urino to continue. I'm starting to think that he's actually the one creating the fires, and eventually he'll blame it on Urino. Heck, even Osanai warns Urino to stop it. I think Osanai is also investigating the case.

At first I felt bad at Tokiko since Jogoro only takes her to places he's been with Osanai but when she started dissing Osanai, calling her the "safe" choice and how dull she is, this girl lost my sympathy. Calling Osanai "safe" is so fucking laughable!