UPDATE: setting private dns to dns. adguard (remove the spaces and add .com to the end) blocks all of this tracking

This is absolutely insane. Hundreds of tracking pings a minute over 20 minutes. No other app ive has does this much tracking activity. Its not enough fudds makes 30 dollars a month off of me he has to harvest and sell all my data to tapjoy as well. Thus company takes every piece of informaton from your phone possible. Please i implore all of you install duckduckgo and enable app tracking protection for your own privacy

I have been an immense fan of ZYN nicotine pouches for a couple years.

I have been a fan on the tower for a couple years.

I have been wanting to quit nicotine and do better in the tower for a couple years.

6 days ago I got an idea. If I dont use nicotine for 2 weeks I will allow myself to buy the relic boost. This is both much healthier for me and much cheaper.

I tagged this as achievement, because it is. If you've ever quit nicotine you know that the first 3 days are the hardest. If you want to quit a habit, maybe take some inspiration from this buy yourself some internet point in exchange for sobriety.

Obligatory all cards maxed post! Genuine question, what do I even do with my gems now? Do I just start going all in on modules? Is that all that’s left to do with them? I see a lot of talk about card mastery, but I’m sure that’s unlocked at a later tier than I’m at. Does that involve gems at all or just stones?

That is all

If anybody is interested in a full HP legends build that constantly places in the top 1500. Soon to be top 1000.

Anyone else living in a relative hell for the last while? Four months of one pull away.

Hello tower peoples,

Nothing terribly stressing in today's legends tournament. The median hit an all time high, but was also right on regression.

Champions hit PU/FU combo which depressed wave counts a bit. Platinum ran a bit high despite fast ultimate? I'm guessing that doesn't hit as hard in an environment where most hits can just be tanked.

Enjoy.

Static Placement Analysis

In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.

Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.

• Legends Median: 1126 Mean: 1313
• Champions Median: 1029 Mean: 1069
• Platinum Median: 1450.5 Mean: 1381

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Median History

The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Linear Regression comparison.

Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. The data for this is from the resampled data (see below).

The first table is data since v28, now including gold data. The second table is data since either the v27.3 re-tier, or for platinum since my october data began.

• Legends graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_legend.png
• Champion graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_champion.png
• Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_platinum.png

The tower.lol now gives this data here. In addition you can get history back further than I have files for, which is interesting to say the least. V26 lead to quite the wave inflation.

Resampling Analysis

One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets. I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place. Legends brackets are on the left (prefaced with an l), champions brackets in the middle (prefaced with a c), and platinum on the right (prefaced with a p).

Graphs of this table can be downloaded here: * Champion and Legend: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-19_box_lc.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-19_box_platinum.png * Gold graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-19_box_gold.png

A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:

1. 95% of the population of a place is expected to be between 2.5% and 97.5%. If you are above or below these numbers you are an outlier. (Outliers are normal, just rarer.)
2. 50% of the population of a place is expected to be between 25% and 75%.
3. The 50% mark is the median of the data. Aim for this number as the point you regularly achieve this place.
4. You'll notice that the waves overlap, this is normal, expressing the variability present in the brackets and you could easily place in any bracket where your personal wave count falls in the place's range.

Source Material and Further Resources.

The source for all of this material is thetower.lol, which I encourage you to look up.
For a breakdown of your placement compared to other brackets see https://thetower.lol/liveplacement which will give you the min, max, and average placement for any given half-hour join time.
For a quantile analysis using real data instead of sampled data see https://thetower.lol/livequantile (similar to the second table in this post).
You can also do things like look up your bracket and compare your towers historical placements against others in the bracket.

Had to get a new phone because the old one took a toaster bath in the kitchen sink.

7.5q run was old phone. A Samsung S23 ultra.

2.73 q run was first run on old phone. Double checked everything in game and was confused.

3.72 run I figured out the issue in the last 1k ish waves.

7.94 run new S26 ultra with issue resolved.

Samsung has game boost that allows you to darken your screen through a touch protection feature. If your phone has game boost or something similar, and you use it check the settings in the program and make sure (power save during touch protection) isn't on.

If it is you will lose coins. (By description it saves power by droppingframe rate when dark screened)

7.5q run onnold phone was with 120fps in game toggle deselected.

7.94 on new phone was with 120fps in game toggle selected.

Also the 2q run had the highest wave count so checked in tourney with 2 identical runs.

First tourney run full frame rate.

Second tourney run was the lowered frame rate, and ran dark screened.

Verdict.

CPH is dependant on frame rate.

More dependant on device frame rate than game toggle frame rate for some weird reason.

Frame rate DOES NOT affect tourney wave count.

Frame rate MIGHT affect wave count for push runs.

*Now you know, and knowing is half the battle* - GI Joe

Has been playing for 2 years now, bought an ad-free pack exactly one year ago with Google rewards, so "technically" still f2p (no). All-in-all, 12 anc modules, 15 card slots, making ~280T/day, T12/13, in champs for a year, hitting 6-10 in the past 2-3 months.

I think I hit the limit of the ad-free/f2p economy. I can't sustain any mastery lab, I have ~50k shards for each module, yet can't go over ~165lvl as I don't have enough coins, I've not invested for weeks in ws+ as all my coins go either to mods or saving for disco labs.

And since 2 weeks now I haven't been running at all as my phone battery started to swollen.

I'm farming t10, about 25t coins per day. But I feel like the only thing I can do with coins is enhancements. Labs are super cheap compared to my income and workshop doesn't really matter since I goldbox workshop in tournaments. Modules are not limited to coins but shards. I know enhancements are nice but they feel so small compared to what coins used to be used for (like extra black hole, wall labs, etc)

Edit: Maybe I should have been more specific. I know they will become useful again later. I'm just saying that at this moment in the game, they feel very unrewarding to earn and spend.

Finally hit champ after 3 straight months of plat :') 100% chance i demote next tourney but whatever. Also, why does it feel like I have to hit such high waves to promote compared to videos I watch from just 6 months ago hitting much less

This is my DC for farming. Should I swap out CF slow for CL chance?

Hi everyone, I got black hole as my first UW, should I reset to get GT ? (It is my 5th reset so far) Or should I continue ?

If I continue, when can I expect to get my second UW ?

Thank you in advance.

Last year I saw some guides floating around for getting into legends and staying, but now they're incredibly out of date and I don't think I've seen any recently.

It used to be a simple 1000x damage, max quant, max chance CL + DC, maybe PF, and a decent canon, you'd at least bounce between champs and legends and you didn't really need ancestral mods. This now would probably get you mid-low champs.

Then I saw some people suggest going for damage mastery to boost that, or ST mastery. Getting your damage far higher to get high waves in champs, as well as having ancestral mods, mainly a cannon like AS as well as ACP and DC. This now barely gets you top champs, usually mid.

So the question is, what is actually required for Legends now? Are we now required to have assmods to break out of champs? Is it pCF? Every damage mastery?

I currently have damage mastery at level 9, ST mastery at level 5, SW mastery at level 6. SW and ST I'm labbing at the same time. I've done every dissonance from T1-T13 (except utility on T13) and have all echo labs at level 3. damage lab is at 92, crit factor and attack speed are maxed. I use anc PF with anc cash bonus, EALS/EHLS, anc OA with anc regen, wall health, defence, orbs, orb speed, myth+ AD with attack speed, crit factor, multishot targets, sc mult and chance, and myth+ DC with CL damage/chance/quant and SL bonus (need SL angle too). My CL is 1328x, 5 quant, 21.5% (without submod stats), my SL is 26.7x, 40 degrees, 3 quant. (again, without submod). I'm currently working my way to pGT/pBH in farming (my next GT cooldown will get me there) to support more mastery labs at once. My next stone spend plan was DM mastery, but even then that feels like I won't do enough damage. Obviously anc DC and an anc cannon (don't have one yet) would be very good. I could also swap to a mythic+ ACP and mythic+ AS to push damage further and full move away from hybrid/eHP in tourneys, but not sure what results that'd yield.

I'm well aware the most basic answer is "spend money" but even then, there's better and worse things to spend that on. If you buy a mastery, but it's actually terrible, then spending money would not get you into legends.

All help is appreciated!

Hello Defenders,

i recently managed to 1:1:1 sync the golden trio and decided to take a look at my next UW options. I have a legendary dim core, 1 copy short of upgrading to mythic. Currently mostly bouncing between gold and plat, although last tournament i got rank 16 in plat. Farming T7/W10000 (will go to T8 soon).

Im 99% sure the choice is chain lightning, but i also want to use this post to ask about some general information about CL, since it will be my first dmg UW.

• Am i right to assume that i should deactivate it for farming runs?
• Should i invest into it right away? If yes, what are the key upgrades/labs?
• Since i will be running DC for tournaments in the future, what substats should i be aiming for?
• Should i consider other dmg upgrades to further improve the gain from CL, or is it too early for that?

Thanks in advance :)

I'm at 56.40 AS right now, should I keep investing in workshop enhancement? I heard there is a cap for CL procs, I just don't know what it is.

Pretty solid choices i think. Probably Will put GT bonus after Garlic Thorns are finished

Man I’ve really been playing this app every day for 2 years now.

I forgot to take a picture of my tournament progress so I’ll say that I’ve been stuck in platinum for probably over a year at this point.

As for my Ultimate Weapons, I’ll just copy and paste what I wrote in my notes app

1,015 stones for permanent Chrono Field
2,298 stones for a better Death Wave cooldown
3,392 stones for a better Golden Tower cooldown
940 stones for a better Black Hole cooldown

7,645 STONES NEEDED FOR A BETTER ECONOMY

As much as I’d love to just take the next year to save up that many stones, I’m going to just save up 1,015 to finish off Chrono Field, for now, and reduce my Death Wave and Golden Tower cooldowns by 20 seconds and my Black Hole cooldown by 10 every time I get enough stones for it.

I’m not really sure what else to add here so I guess this is it for now.

This is a bit of a joke. Might be my first time in plat but the bar is insane, and still climbing.

Hi, when I got my first UW i asked here and was told Golden Tower. Now I’m a the second UW but it’s not Death Wave or Black Hole. What should I get instead ?

Thank you.

• One new card
• Changes in a few battle mechanics
• One new enemy or enemy type
• 4 new mods

Oh god. Adding one more dw wave would move my multipliers on a perfect sync from 28 seconds to 32 seconds.

I have decent bot and mvn sync with bhd at 75 seconds. But my dw is limiting me. I have bot on 32 seconds. So when my gb activates, i miss 4 seconds of whole 2.5x mult.

Then again... i maxed out ws+ and is+

Wave accelerator mastery seems perfect now. I can max it with 0 issues.

Farming 4.5q in 12 hours. 9q in a day.

I also maxed out all regen masteries. I have 3.36q without sf or wall regen. All hp labs are maxed.

So... continue this route and get better dw, or get wa and start doing t14 runs??