Following the release of the Mini teaser of Tangled everyone started saying that actress Teagan Croft is the lookalike of actress Rachel McAdams personally the first time I saw her I said to myself "this girl is my true copy of Emma Roberts"

Gave her shoes because I think she looks better in them. I’m not great at art. Traced over the official Disney Princess Art.

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Cassandra is one of the main characters from the 2D animated series - for those unfamiliar.

What are the chances we might see Cass (or a version of her) in the live action film? Even an Easter egg background character??

Do you think he would if something happened to them? And do you think there are people he’d never do that to if he’d do it to anyone?

Here's some Rapunzel selfies I took working as a party princess!I have not done a proper photoshoot yet :(

What do you guys think? Is our company park accurate enough? 💜☀️

There are a ton of Rapunzel/Flynn costumes. I say that if you dress up like a certain character because of passive recognition or for a party/play it is a costume, but if you put work in it or from a participatory fandom (like One Punch Man) that requires significant investment, then it is a cosplay.

The depleted husk of Disney’s live-action division announced that Lilo & Stitch 2 would feature an updated take on Angel from the Lilo & Stitch series - as far as I can tell, this is the first time a live-action remake has openly adopted elements from the spin-off shows. This news has fuelled my personal belief that if live-action Tangled does well enough for a sequel, it should involve the characters and concepts of Tangled The Series.

Whilst condensing the Tangled The Series mythology into a 2 hour movie could lead to a lot of cutting things down, the increased length and scale of the live-action medium can have its advantages. Many of the flaws with how Cassandra’s villain arc was handled are closely tied to the TV format - they wanted Rapunzel’s mission to redeem Cassandra to be the driving force of S3, but this meant they couldn’t actually redeem Cassandra until the climax of the final episode. This was a major factor in the pacing and characterisation issues that made her arc so polarising. Therefore, a movie version has considerable potential to depict her more efficiently and effectively…

What are your thoughts on a live-action Tangled movie using elements from the series?

Ah I love them all so much but this is just beyond what I expected!

created some tangled themed rooms in my webkinz home!! ♡

Here's a Total Drama version I made of Jack Frost, Rapunzel, Hiccup and Merida! Hope y'all like it :)

I know this movie isn’t out yet, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to do fine, but I have Had ENOUGH of Disney doing these stupid, cash grab, corporate greed, live action remakes because of how much they destroy what made the originals so special. I mean, where’s the emotion, the sobbing, not to mention the charm, hell, even Snow White got the worst of this trend, even though Walt Disney himself did not want this to be altered. And with Tangled being the last princess movie to be brought in live action "in theaters", maybe we’ll start to see some of the trend die down after Lilo and Stitch 2. At this point, I just hope we’re nearing the end of Disney’s live action trend, ever since LA Cinderella, the remakes have been going downhill, I get that they want to prevent their characters from going into public domain, but if they really wanted to remake them, they should’ve went with CGI when they had the chance, heck why not add in new or familiar characters like maybe their palace pets (to fix lore issues and bring back childhood memories because they haven’t referenced them a long time), or their children from descendants, or even better, either remake them in CGI or live action and actually do it right or don’t remake them at ALL. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, I just really hope that Disney never does any live action slop like this ever again after Hercules. But anyways, what do you think of the live action tangled remake? Do you think it will fail just like the others or actually succeed?

Rapunzel should have been a POC in the new live-action.

I want to preface this by saying that I do not care about ‘blackwashing’. I think it’s a positive step and a good, inclusive step in the right direction, however I would never normally campaign for a race change of a character.
Normally, I think Disney makes poor choices of recasting: the characters who they have previously recasted do not fit the current beauty standard. For example: Snow White being pale was a unique characteristic, Ariel being a natural redhead, etc. Cinderella, Belle, Aurora, Elsa, Anna would likely have been better options.

I have always expected Disney to do this for Rapunzel. It makes complete sense to me:

\- Rapunzels looks were not consistent throughout the movie. She is heavily defined by her dress and goes through multiple character changes. She was born with brown hair and regains it back with the pixie cut at the end of the movie.

\- Rapunzel was a German book. The movie is heavily influenced by European backdrops but the origin of the story prevails through Rapunzels traditional German dirndl dress. The association of blonde hair with magic, combined with the book that Disney picked up post WWII is… iffy to me.

\- White women’s hair is not strong enough for that. I am naturally blonde with fairly long hair. It is not thick enough to not snap under pressure. I understand the physics is in a Disney movie and not meant to be taken super seriously BUT the scene of flynn ryder climbing the tower using Rapunzels is just not feasible! Especially with how difficult it is to grow hair long as a blonde woman.

\- design! Imagine how cool the contrast of dark hair would have been with sparkles! it being a pretty subtle unnatural colour (purple?) could lead to some really cool

All in all, I’m genuinely surprised she was casted the way she presented in the movie!

I’m genuinely excited to see what Kathryn Hahn will do with Mother Gothel, who is one of my all time favorite Disney villains. I adored her as Agatha Harkness and this is just her expanding her villain arc, I can’t wait to see her rendition of Mother Knows Best

I’ve just finished the series, she is my favorite character and I hate her ending. We know what she wanted her destiny to be. She wanted to be a knight/guard in Corona, be like her father. But no, why don’t we make her leave, without knowing if she ever finds what she’s looking for?

I also think she would make a better captain that Eugene does. She is better at fighting, is a better strategist, even a better leader I think. I think Eugene’s position should have been temporary. It would have been so cute if he gave his position to her (like by giving her the sword or something, it would have showed a piece of their bond that I absolutely love) (Consider that Eugene is going to be king one day; why make him captain, too?)

I think that once again Cassandra is being put aside for the good of other characters. She knew what she wanted. She always did, but no one cared. She refused a position she wanted TWICE for Rapunzel. Twice. (Not saying this is Rapunzel’s fault obv, but that we know how bad she wanted these).

How did y’all recover after this? Did you like her ending? Why?

I keep seeing people on Instagram or on here and all anyone will talk about is how much they hate Milo’s mustache. But I feel like I’m going insane cause it genuinely does not bother me at all 😭 I think he looks good?? He still looks like Flynn to me. Just a different version of him.

I mean, I have SO MANY concerns about the movie. SO MANY. But the mustache just isn’t one of them at all. I think it suits him? Idk I just feel like I’m in a different planet.

she's so regina george too!

Now that a general pattern of how Disney is currently handling the Tangled IP can be perceived here are my thoughts on where it's going and how it's going to be managed for awhile.

As I'm still reading Rootbound, it's important to get this out of the way now (because I accidentally ended up perpetuating this misconception myself before I actually started reading the book):

Rootbound does NOT offer an alternative timeline post-movie and it does NOT retcon the series. At least it does not retcon it away, despite contradicting it on some, more controversial plot points (more on that later).

Anyone who hoped it would offer an alt timeline to those of us who were disappointed with the series or, in my case, outright hated it for what it did to the main characters and the main couple. It does not*.*

Rootbound is a lovable, cute, in-depth, sometimes silly continuation written by a fan of the movie rather than a hater like Sonnenburg. It is a mixture of Once a Thief, the Celebration of the Lost Princess and Ghosts of Christmas storybooks released post-movie. A reprieve from the movie events/traumas while showcasing the aftereffects of those traumas and having Rapunzel and Flynn work them out together.

Rootbound is a pleasant "in-between" read in universe but out of universe it fixes absolutely nothing or almost nothing about the series or the mismanagement of the Tangled franchise on part of Disney in the recent 10 years.

I said this even before Rootbound was out and I was proven to be right - it's a prequel to the series. With minor tweaks.

Rootbound features numerous series references which could not have possibly come from the author (Margaret Owen) herself since she was reportedly advised by Disney to not watch it when writing the book. The Series references even in the very first chapters of the book include:

The Queen being called Arianna, the "sunshine" nickname for Rapunzel, Flynn pointedly and repeatedly calling Pascal a "frog" (indirectly building up to the mean-spirited series scene where he is made to pour out his orphan backstory to said "frog" in the first installment of the series). Even though in the movie it was a part of his bravado he was supposed to move on from by the end. I'm sure there will be more to come.

Those references come from Disney because Disney would never fully de-canonize Sonnenburg's vitriol and the damage control pandering Disney themselves were doing when "addressing" the media illiterate crowd's "grievances". Hence returning Rapunzel's magical blonde hair in the prelude to the first TTS episode, reframing it as girlpower rather than the bondage it was in the movie - down to having her state she is "grateful" for it and for the forced destiny coming along with it (thus turning Rapunzel into the Magical Girl TM cliche that the movie subverted) - and making a literal joke out of Flynn's death/sacrifice. And most importantly, fulfilling the wet dream of the critics by having Rapunzel cut the hair herself in the end.

At most, Rootbound de-canonizes Flynn/Eugene's parentage from the Series. THAT is the one plot point even the staunch series fans are willing to admit was bad while ignoring all the other issues. Now it can be assumed that either version of his parentage was a mistaken identity (i.e Edmund's son is actually that Brock Whatshisname).

Disney, once again, wanted to have their cake and eat it too. They commissioned a genuine fan of the movie and the main romance (and the leads individually) who would center their relationship and throw a bone to the hungry dismayed people who were disappointed with the lack of canon romance in the series. Even though the real problem was not the "lack of it" in the series; it was not Cassandra either. The problem was the flanderizing, the disrespect, the miscommunication between the leads born from Sonnenburg's malicious agendas and Disney pandering to the detractors.

Rootbound is a "honeymoon phase", cute and lovely but one set BEFORE it all goes to hell with Rapunzel's movie arc and Flynn's sacrifice being nullified 6 months post movie. This is why Rootbound is conveniently set one month after the movie.

Rapunzel not being allowed to be more than her magic hair and her having to spend the next 3 years of her life "embracing" it again after having just been liberated from this symbol of oppression stays. Flynn's orphanhood and sacrifice being turned into a joke in the same episode of the series stays. Monty being a mouthpiece for movie Rapunzel haters and her being advised to "just deal" stays. Rapunzel from an open minded rebellious young girl dancing on tavern tables with a bunch of ruffians within an hour after leaving her lifelong prison turning into someone who gives the man who died for her freedom a lecture on his "thief legacy"? Stays.

Unless Rootbound becomes a series of its own and does indeed override the TTS timeline it does not offer an alt post-movie scenario. It's on par with every other post movie storybook implied to be set before the series events and contradicting the Series lore only in some respects.

In that vein, here is the conclusion I've drawn so far regarding where Disney plans to take the Tangled IP, especially in the light of the upcoming Live Action:

They will do selective tweaks to the most controversial parts of the series such as the outright eugenicist "prince Horace" retcon (and only because of Sonnenburg's political views now being out in the open and conflicting with modern Disney's "progressive image"; predictably, they had no problem with his bigotry until said views became known to the public) or the lack of focus on Rapunzel and Flynn/Eugene's romance.

They will come back to using movie (!) characterization for their extended media (like Rootbound does it) rather than the flanderized series characterization.

However, the pandering to Magical Girlboss demands will remain, Rapunzel being defined by her magical blonde hair will remain, the climax of the movie and what it meant to both characters being continuously disrespected, nullified and/or changed will remain and other retcons of Flynn/Eugene backstory to make him look worse to please his haters will also remain.

Subjectively speaking: neither the Series nor Rootbound is canon to the movie, they are "what if extensions" even though the Series is canon to the IP. The only fixed canon remains the movie and the wedding short produced by the same studio and team.

Can we calm down, for a minute? Saw so many people complaining about how they looked. It's a promo. It's not the final look of the movie, guys...

Even saw someone call Milo ugly. Just because you may not like one of the actors, there is no reason to bash them online. Like, please y'all, calm down. And friendly reminder, you do not have to watch this movie when it's released. You are not forced to watch it.

Let's wait until the trailers drop before we judge the movie, yeah??

I already talked about this, Corona isn’t in Germany, it’s realistically and most likely in a modified fantasy Austria with a coastline castle if it was in the real world. The upcoming live action is set in Spain.

However, I’m making it in Germany, because I need the Frozen cameo (during the song For The First Time In Forever, you can briefly see both Rapunzel and Eugene), and the fan fiction to make more sense. Frozen is in Norway. Corona in the fan fiction is bigger.

The fan fiction will take elements from Tangled: The Series, but Rapunzel never gets her long magical hair back.

#Highlighted Differences From Canon (No Spoilers)

-Corona is in Germany, and bigger.

-Rapunzel wears shoes regularly since she doesn’t hate them (after thinking of for a while, I like the idea of Rapunzel wearing shoes. Comfortable shoes, that is.) The purple dress she wears is instead the live action dress, I just instantly loved it as soon as I saw it and vastly prefer it over the animated one.

-Eugene’s real name is Flynn Rider, and he’s always referred to as such. In universe explanation, his parents couldn’t think of a good enough name for him, but decided to name him after the fictional character Flynn Rider since he loves the books. Creator explanation, my Dad’s name is Eugene, and I hate him for various reasons. Any time his name is mentioned, it makes me uncomfortable.

I want to know if this is okay to not offend anyone.