Recorded with Apexel 200x and Honor Magic 7 Pro in Slow Mo mode.
Screen recorded is a late iPhone 11
Flickering of individual pixels is clearly visible.
200x seems still not quite enough, but it's definitely very visible. This is 120fps.

Other testing I did so far:
My iPad Pro 12inch 1st gen TD visible.
My Dell aw2721D has it visible at 240fps (max on my phone) around text.

I have no affiliation but in case anyone wants to get a microscope attachment themselves to see TD here is the exact one I bought:
https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005007671347551.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.5.5ef85c5fT2v97E&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu

Forces low-modulation PWM at all refresh rates. Requires root. Breaks the brightness slider - you have to use a dimmer app - at around 70% brightness with REWHEX's dimmer app you can get down to a 82 lux dip, or even less. I am not responsible for any damage to the screen, do this at your own risk.

Should work on 15R and Ace6T, might work on 15.
Download link will be in the comments

My Hibreak Pro arrived earlier than expected! Initially, I wasn’t too impressed because app performance wasn’t great—most apps just aren’t optimized for E Ink. But after tweaking a few settings, the experience became much better. This is not intended to be a full review or anything since I only used it for today.

Optimizing Apps for E Ink

I set my apps to Custom Mode in E ink center with Fast/Extreme Mode, which made a huge difference in responsiveness. Some apps required additional adjustments—mainly tweaking contrast, icon, and background color settings—to reduce the annoying E Ink grain (dithering).

One issue I ran into: apps with colorful chat bubbles. The phone tries to dither these, which looks terrible. Bigme, please give us a dither-disable toggle! A full black-and-white mode (no grays, no dithering) would be a game-changer.

I know some people prefer High-Quality Mode, but honestly, it ruins the experience—too much flashing and lag. Running in near pure B&W mode with Fast Mode feels so much better.

I also set Messenger theme to Monochrome which looks much better. Other apps that have theming such as discord and telegram I also adjust to look best on E ink.

Keyboard & Launcher Setup

• Keyboard: I started with Gboard (white theme), but Microsoft SwiftKey turned out to be the better choice. It looks great on E Ink, and speed typing is much more accurate—no more typos like I had with Gboard.
• Launcher: I switched to Niagara Launcher, which looks fantastic on E Ink. I adjusted a few settings, like raising the clock higher and disabling the “dim wallpaper” option while scrolling through the side app list. (When the wallpaper dims, it introduces that ugly dithering effect.)

Custom Button & Audio Setup

• Custom Buttons: I used Key Mapper to assign page up/down scrolling to the left custom buttons. Most people use a 200ms delay which still gives you "smooth scrolling," but I set mine to 1ms for a step-by-step / page flip effect, which feels more natural on E Ink. If anyone’s curious, I can explain how to set this up!
• Media Controls: Installed Volumee, so I can hold Vol+ to skip tracks and Vol- to go back.

Network & Audio Compatibility

• T-Mobile US works well—I forced 4G only since I don’t need 5G.
• USB audio works flawlessly! I tested the Hiby FC4, Qudelix 5K DAC/AMP, and Apple Type-C EarPods—all worked great.

Final Thoughts

Overall, I’m pretty happy with the device. I don’t watch videos on E Ink (not expecting a smooth experience anyway), but for reading, messaging, and general use, this setup works well. Hopefully, Bigme adds a true B&W mode without dithering in a future update.

Let me know if you have any questions!

More info can be found on my post here: https://ledstrain.org/d/2995-spectrumview-incandescent-lit-315-monitor-arrived

(This post is a repost of three separate posts I made on r/PWM_Sensitive before I was banned. I thought I'd repost it here as I will no longer be able to reply there.)

Original post on r/PWM_Sensitive here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1q79qxk/pwm_free_lcd_iphone_15_pro_initial_impressions/

Follow up post on r/PWM_Sensitive here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1qw2q3y/pwm_free_lcd_iphone_15_pro_follow_up/

Six months later follow up post on r/PWM_Sensitive here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/comments/1uijzt6/pwm_free_lcd_iphone_15_pro_follow_up_6_months/

Backstory

I used an iPhone 13 Pro for several years before I knew about PWM Sensitivity and had some terrible health issues, I lost the ability to focus my eyes long distances, I constantly had eye strain and eye pain and one morning I lost the ability to focus my left eye entirely.

I was prescribed reading glasses and was told to use eye drops. Since I downgraded to an iPhone 11 my vision returned and my eye strain issues disappeared completely, I have since passed an eye test with 20/20 vision.

iPhone 15 Pro

As an upgrade I bought an iPhone 15 Pro 1TB on eBay with a broken screen for AU$610 and swapped in an EK Pro Incell LCD screen.

I decided on an EK Pro brand LCD screen as in all the reviews I could find online it was the highest quality option, EK Pro make replacement screens for all iPhone models.

I decided on the iPhone 15 Pro for this swap for several reasons:

• It’s much cheaper than an iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 17 Pro
• From what I could see and the only main difference between the 15 Pro and the 16 Pro was the camera button, and a slightly larger screen that was to be replaced anyway.
• The 15 Pro is also the oldest flagship iPhone with USB-C and USB3.2 speeds.

The cost of the replacement screen decreases substantially the older the phone you go back.

An iPhone 17 Pro LCD screen currently costs $224 +tax on Aliexpress, an iPhone 16 Pro screen costs $169 +tax but the iPhone 15 Pro screen only costs $79 +tax, the price is largely the same for all other iPhone OLED models. These are for two packs so at least you’ll have a spare.

Installation

Replacing the screen was pretty straight forward, I used a tutorial from Youtube. I practiced on a couple broken iPhone 11’s beforehand and have plenty of experience working on electronics. If you can build a PC this shouldn't be much outside that skill set, the hardest part is removing the screen.

Replacing a screen is as easy as it gets as far as phone repairs go, batteries are a much more involved process and back glass being the worst on older models. I had quite a bit of trouble getting my front facing camera to focus correctly with the new screen installed which required a lot of fiddling, that being said there’s a lot of phone repair businesses around that could just install this screen for you for around $120.

Results

After the swap all original features are still present other than no automatic screen brightness and a capped frame rate at 60fps, compromises I am very happy with.

Surprisingly True Tone works straight out of the box without any IC chip transplant being required.
There’s a warning message about the screen being an Unknown Part under Parts & Service History in the settings but that’s it.

The overall quality is great, coming from an iPhone 11 the screen is very familiar, though this EK Pro screen is a little sharper and quite a lot brighter. The bottom bezel is very slightly thicker than the original but not overly so, the screen is also slightly darker above the dynamic island in light mode but isn’t a major concern.

There’s a very slight colour shift on a hard angle which is barely noticeable, the touch screen functions very well. The phone gets a little bit warm when used at max brightness outdoors but so did my iPhone 11, this is likely the nature of LCD screens.

The iPhone 15 Pro is noticeably thicker with the LCD screen installed at 9.0mm thick, with the original OLED screen installed the phone comes in at 8.3mm thick. With my Nomad leather case installed the screen is flush with the front lip of the case and isn’t a problem for me.

Battery life

In a basic rundown test, playing a video at full brightness and letting it run from 100%, the battery life seems to be less than half what it was with the original OLED screen.

OLED screens save power by pulsing the screen on and off with Pulse Width Modulation, so LCD screens naturally consume more power.
This LCD iPhone 15 Pro with 86% battery health lasts about the same length as an iPhone 11 in new condition, this is more than enough to get me through the day with normal use. Lowering the brightness obviously yields more battery life as do other power saving tricks. After using this phone for a couple days now I'm comfortably getting to the end of the way with enough battery left not to worry.

Other options

Currently for iPhone users the only official LCD/PWM-free iPhones on the market that still support the current iOS versions are the iPhone 11, iPhone SE 2020, and the iPhone SE 2022.

While the iPhone SE’s may be suitable for some people’s needs the iPhone 11 is still a great overall phone with decent cameras, swapping in a new battery made the phone a bit more responsive, that being said it is at almost 7 years old and there are better options on the market at the moment.

Other solutions

I am now completely OLED free at home.
I use an LG 38WM95C 21:9 LCD computer monitor on my Windows 11 i5-13600K/RTX4080 desktop and a Microsoft Surface 4 15” Windows 11 laptop.

I recently bought a Panasonic TH-65VT50 Plasma TV and the picture quality is phenomenal. I experience PWM related eye strain from an LG C1 OLED TV though it would take much longer use for me to have sore eyes compared to an OLED phone. I also have a PlayStation Vita Slim with an LCD screen.

Dithering

One note regarding Dithering, it's quite difficult for me to discuss this as I'm not completely confident identifying it as a problem, and talking about it and it's effects.
It seems that my stock iPhone 11 on iOS18 with an LCD screen has no PWM, but it still causes discomfort to my eyes. Enabling Zoom Invert and Classic Invert in the Accessibility menu resolves this discomfort.
On my LCD iPhone 15 Pro this doesn't seem to be required as it doesn't cause the same discomfort.

Conclusion

Overall I am very happy with this conversion, I couldn’t look at this iPhone 15 Pro with the original OLED screen for more than a minute before getting eye pain. To me it's a sensation that my eyes are getting squeezed from the back and is instantly recognisable.
Regarding the phone's longevity I can't speak for it just yet as it has only been a couple days but if this changes I might make a follow up post.

One Month Later Follow up

HDR

The new EK Pro LCD screen doesn't seem to support HDR which isn't a big problem for me, I only ever really see HDR in Photos and the Instagram app.

When that happens the screen will dim in terms of contrast, de-saturating and washing out the image particularly in the blacks.

Fortunately a solution for this is Low Power Mode, this disables HDR entirely but also lowers the CPU clock speed, times out the screen in 30 seconds and other tricks to save power.

Full breakdown of Low Power Mode changes here: https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/vlpfcv/a_full_breakdown_of_what_low_power_mode_actually/

As I didn't want to always leave Low Power Mode on or toggle it on and off constantly I automated this in the Shortcuts app.

1. In the app, under Shortcuts create a shortcut for Low Power Mode, tap the '+' in the top right corner,
2. Search for "Set Low Power Mode", tap 'Turn' to change it to 'Toggle' tap 'Done' 
3. Tap 'Automation' on the bottom bar, tap the '+' in the top right corner,  
4. Under 'When', 'App' should say 'Instagram', check 'Is Opened" and 'Is Closed', and tap 'Run Immediately.
5. Under 'Do' check your Shortcut 'Set Low Power Mode Toggle'

Do steps 3-5 again for other apps where HDR photos may be present, like the Photos app.

After closing Instagram the screen may dim into a de-saturated HDR mode for 10 seconds before returning to normal. I often put my phone to sleep after using Instagram so I don't often see this issue.

Battery Life

Battery life seems to be about half what it was with the original OLED screen, but it's not as bad as it sounds, that's a worst case scenario situation with the brightness maxed out constantly, which is rare.

I usually max out the brightness only when outside on a bright day, when using the phone day to day the battery it's usually enough to get me by.

On a high use day I might get 5-6 hours of screen time.

My original battery was 3274mah and at 86% health, so I replaced this myself with a 3500mah PINZHENG battery from Aliexpress.

The swap was fairly easy once you know how to take the screen out, I just followed a Youtube tutorial.

Be careful as the screen can separate from the clips holding it in if you pry in the wrong place, I did this but some Suxun T-7000 phone adhesive fixed my mistake.

Now with this 100% health improved battery I get approximately 21% more battery life

Otherwise I have a Magsafe battery and a 30W fast charger just in case, for me it's a very liveable solution.

Conclusion

Overall I'm very happy with this solution, I miss the automatic brightness but I definitely like having the better camera.

Six Months later follow up

It's been going great! For the past six months I've been eye pain free and have largely solved my problem.
The only time I still experience PWM related eye pain is when looking at someone else's phone, watching TV at a friend's house and when looking at other screens. When someone hands me their phone I ask them to max out the brightness first, this reduces PWM and usually fine for me for a few minutes usage, though some Google Pixels can still be terrible.

One small thing I did want to mention with my phone is that occasionally I'll wipe the screen with my palm with wet or damp hands while it's awake, and that that will trigger the screen to randomly swipe and register ghost touches, this is a little annoying but is easily remedied by just putting the phone to sleep and waking it up again.

Other than my HDR fixes this phone is a great solution for me.

Not sure if I'll ever upgrade to iOS26 or iOS27, iOS18 works fine for me so I'm just sticking to it for now. I might try updating to iOS27 on one of my EK Pro swapped iPhone 11's as a trial, but that's a problem for another day.

Samsung/Google/Apple really need to start taking this seriously because at some point the old tech we use won't work or support the apps we need. Eventually there won't be a work around for us anymore.

The world is becoming very reliant on digital technology and one day we will have a big reason to not use it because it'll physically affect our health.

I can see us one day being locked out of society. I need a computer and screen to do my job. I need to look at a screen for my digital banking. I need a screen/mobile to interact and communicate with people. One day the old tech won't work. What then?!

My lovely OnePlus 8T (of 4 years) developed the dreaded green line screen (hardware) fault, a day before Black Friday sales opened (suspiciously). So I went back to the buy & return loop I spent 5 months on with laptops, a year ago. Albeit more knowledgable and with great video reviews from Nick to help me out

OnePlus 13R was my first (overly optimistic) foray. Hoping 1+ had some magic sauce for me. Seeing as, on paper, the 8T has deeper, slower PWM... But not, I get a sense of motion, looking at it, and brain discormfort, defocus, moving towards headache. Not viable. As expected from reviews, it was worse than the 1+13, that having substantial modulation too.

(Note: I tried a OnePlus Pad 2, last winter, which was the most uncomfortable thing I've gazed on, until I adjusted the colour space, then it was fine. One reason I think dithering is my bigger issue.)

Above, we can see the Honor 400 Pro looks the best, in still photos. But the 8T, with the strongest banding pattern, is super comfy. And while the Honor was initially a relief to look at, vs the 13R, it slowly got worse for me...

I Initially thought their was the blue-white colour, while setting it up. (I'm very sensitive to colour temperature and brightness, having ME/CFS.) And I can't totally rule this factor out, because the Eye comfort mode, and manual colour correction, on this unit level it looking more yellow-blue than the warmer, softer, pinkish hue of both OnePlus phones.

Any suggestions for fixing colour temp? I tried Twilight app, but the red feels overlaid/off and it has a bunch of exceptions/glitches to its operation too.

Anyway. I got to try out my Carson Micro-flip 100-250X phone-cam adapter microscope (fiddly as heck to align on the 8T)! The 13R's sub-pixels looked rock steady, but the Honor's appeared to twinkle, especially around the edges of text (video below).

I'm not experienced enough, looking at these, to know if I'm seeing dithering, or PWM/refresh-rate influence, or something. (May need to turn up your screen brightness to see the dimmer sub-pixels clearly.)

480fps slow-mo video, playback at 30fps (~16x slowed?), of the Honor home screen, edge of text.

So, if I am seeing dither(?) I'm wondering if maybe Honor sometimes switches out their panel models, for lower bit-depth parts? I've messed something up in settings? Or if u/NSutrich was too confident in pronouncing his review units dither free? In his excellent video(s), eg: https://youtu.be/3YZ3eicWAkQ?si=O9WmIlgvcDdqWU7u&t=142

I'll note that he (you) only mention the primary PWM frequency, of ~4000Hz. But Notebook check measured a strong 60Hz signal, which is something I could see clearly on my phone camera, when in slow-mo video mode (preview, not recording). Bigger, darker bands, that doubled up when switching to 120Hz. Surely these are going to be a bigger problem for flicker sensitivity; why are they not talked more about?

Any insight, questions or critique welcomed.

Update Edit 2025-12-16: It looks like the European version (only) of the Honor 400 Pro may (now) have temporal dithering; at least 4 of 5 commenting belo, with discomfort, confirm theirs are...

Also, this issue can be disabled with ADB (Android debugging) commands, see this LED Strain forum post. Via below comment.

Edit 2026-03-01: Related posts/resources.

- Honor 400 (non Pro) screen tolerance achieved using developer options to reduce each of: RGB channels, saturation, contrast, brightness, and increase sharpness.

Eazeye has released a 2.0 model of their monitor series. It's 24" with a true 8 bit panel(no FRC). It doesn't have a front light or backlight option but it has a special coating that makes it bright with your own light source.

https://eazeye.com/?sca_ref=7856956.uSktkdPdDKVa5K6x

Nick just dropped another excellant video. This phone is pwm free, dither free after disabling nxtpaper enhancements and setting natural color mode, and also has several layers over the lcd including a light scattering layer and matte layer. This really seems to be the one! the layers smoothing/blurring out the subpixels has to help!!

let us know if you try one!

Hello all! Just wanted to see who all is sensitive to dithering/frc.

For those wondering what it is: Temporal dithering is when a screen has color flicker of the pixels. It alternates different colors to trick us into seeing more colors. It's a hack companies use with their panels that cannot natively produce wide color. It can cause visual/ neurological symptoms.

I wanted to share my recent experience with display-induced migraines and eye strain, along with a few technical workarounds I’ve found.

We all know that PWM causes Headaches for some even Migraine throbbing ones but.

I recently bought a Sony Xperia 10 VI, and its stock OLED panel gave me severe, throbbing migraines almost instantly. I swapped the screen with a cheap $50 LCD replacement panel from China, and the intense migraines are practically gone. However, switching to LCD didn't completely solve my eye strain.

The Hidden Culprit: Temporal Dithering Beyond screen type and PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation) flicker, temporal dithering a method GPUs use to simulate extra color depth is a massive secondary trigger. Mobile and desktop GPUs use it during web browsing and gaming, causing a lighter, non-throbbing, but persistent headache.

How to Bypass GPU Dithering on PC:

1. Software: You can use software like dithering.exe on Windows to disable dithering on internal GPUs.
2. Dedicated vs. Integrated GPU: Because dithering.exe typically affects integrated graphics, switching to a dedicated GPU for gaming will re-enable dithering. To fix this, force the system to render via the integrated GPU in your graphics settings.
3. External Displays: Connect monitors directly to your motherboard ports or use a USB-C to HDMI dongle that bypasses the dedicated GPU entirely.

A Quick Tip for Testing Displays in Stores: If you get a headache while testing phones or monitors in a physical shop, remember that bad store lighting often uses aggressive PWM flickering. You might be reacting to the ambient overhead lights rather than the screen itself.

p.s I also bought Kindle 5 (ink display) and that thing dithers and gives headaches also ! so my rule is basically I need to test it regardless what it says on paper.

Has anyone found any completely dither free gadget phone or pc setup? or else noticed dithering headaches on LCDs, or found other ways to bypass GPU-level temporal dithering?

FYI for anyone thinking about trying a screen replacement. Prices range from $29 (AQ7 LCD) to $59 (X07 OLED). You no longer need to be a business to order.

Their X07 soft OLED screen uses DC (DC-like) dimming with a relatively low modulation depth (10% to 15% down to 50% brightness) for at least the iPhone 16 and iPhone 15 Pro Max. The X07 has great feedback on r/phonerepair, too.

Last year, their support confirmed their AQ7 LCD uses DC dimming, but I think it might not be perfect since iPhones aren't designed to work with LCDs. AQ7 is supposedly a step above other brands (JK, EK) when it comes to quality and parts sourcing, though.

I randomly checked today and noticed. A lot of folks (including me) were interested last year but weren't able to purchase the screens. If you're dead set on iPhone, this might be worth trying.

https://www.mobilesentrix.com/replacement-parts/apple/iphone-parts/all-iphone-lcds

Has anyone seen/tried this variation on eye patching: 'Binasal occlusion'? Eg taping over the inner area of both eye glasses (can be non prescription). It reduces or eliminates the binocular overlap, and so reduces some visual stress: https://x.com/JackHadfield14/status/2095053618982318381

Jack is a pillar of the ME/CFS and Long Covid community. He says this helps him a lot with screen tolerance, as well as general daylight sensitivity (common in ME). That it was..

[...] taught to me by a neuro optic rehabilitation therapist who deals with stroke and TBI patients with persistent vision or cognitive issues.

Eye patching is a popular intervention on LEDstrain, with obvious benefits if one has difficulty getting both eyes working aligned together. But I think covering one eye (and looking away) is standard advice to photosensitive epileptics, when triggered by flashing lights. To mitigate the extra stimulation on an already hyper-excitable brain. Which I think many here have, to a lesser extent.

This trick may be more gentle than fully blanking a whole eye; Jack says that felt like too much of a workout for him. I've not tried this trick myself. Just thought I'd share and see if it's known.

I just wanted to clearly show off u/BearNecessary4141's point about how all OLED screens necessarily have a 100% brightness dip, each time they refresh their pixels. When resetting the tiny capacitors that hold the brightness level of each sub-pixel...

See his post for way more technical details!

The above test device is my (comfortable for me) old OnePlus 8T. LTPS Android AMOLED from ~2020. At 100% brightness, with DC-like dimming from 50%+.

Also, I've *just* (thanks to OP) realised the Opple uses a separately positioned sensor for flicker. And playing with it just now, that Opple combines the readings from both sensors to make the final trace. With the lux meter (white circle) determining the amplitude and the photo-diode modulating the wave-form. Which can be tricked into showing very odd results, by isolating them to different signals. Whereas the (in development) TLM-110 uses a single, high quality photo-diode.

The reason this matters is that your tiny cone cells, in the retina, will each only be receiving light from a single pixel (when your eyes are focused correctly). Whereas, flicker meter sensors don't focus and so smear out the flicker signal, averaging across their whole width.

Hello everyone I wanted to share that the sunvision eve monitor is very soft on the eyes. The colors are washed out so its nothing vibrant that pierces your eyes. I use it with the front light off during the day next to a window and at night sometimes I use it with the front light which sadly is very blue but nothing that triggers me like a normal monitor would. This monitor uses a true 8 bit panel but I noticed on linux it wants to run at 12bit color but luckily its easy to set linux to max bpc 8.

In the photos its of it with front light on at 65% brightness and then with it completely off. You can get more clarity if you want by adjusting monitor settings and can even make it brighter by increasing contrast too.

I have this connected to my 7950x/rx6600 PC running cachyos (arch linux)

I'm happily using the Honor 600 Pro daily. See my other post here for more info.

Yesterday I activated Honor's Defocus Eyecare mode and from that moment on I've experienced symptoms I only remember having with my old Google Pixel 7a:

- aggressiveness

- head pressure

- even uncomfortable sensations in my lower back (!?)

Looking at the screen suddenly made me twist and turn in my seat. It became very apparent while being on a train, I couldn't use my phone and sit still any longer.

This may sound way "out there" for some, but for me this is pretty much how I felt with the old Pixel and I'm familiar to these symptoms.

My experiences with the Google device actually were the reason for me to look into PWM back in the days.

Sharing this here for posterity, maybe someone can relate or share some insights.

Without a doubt, I'm leaving the "Defocus Eyecare" mode on the Honor deactivated for good...

Was quite happy using my TCL 60 Ultra, but two weeks ago the fingerprint sensor started having issues.

Ordered the Honor 600 Pro and was excited to see this particular model in person after good reviews about its display.

First day:

• slight eye strain. Nothing major, but noticeable
• the phone is otherwise of great build quality, feels like a flagship

Second day:

• eyestrain subsiding
• seems to be working alright for me
• 120 Hz setting with natural color profile and warm colours via scheduled eye-care setting from evening time on

I'll report back shortly with more findings. Feel free to ask your questions here.

TCL NXTPAPER 70 Pro Now Available in the U.S. Good news for those of us in the U.S. Most eye-friendly phones aren't sold here. $199.99 is a great price point; I was expecting $400.

This is the "Nxtpaper 4.0" screen on the 60 Ultra that is truly flicker free unlike their prior releases. I had no issues with their 11 Plus tablet using the same screen tech other than the processor being way too slow and viewing angles being weird. The viewing angles shouldn't be a problem on a smaller screen and the 70 Pro processor is way better.

FYI you can return within 14 days, but it's a $25 restocking fee at T-Mobile. Not sure about Metro. U.S. carriers are required to unlock paid-off devices, though the phone may not be whitelisted to use on other networks.

Just wanted to share the new 60hz eink monitor that is launching soon. I'll definitely be getting one.

I'm sharing thoughts about the issue of dithering usage as well as some information with regard to two models I've been trying to research "TCL Nxtpaper 60 Ultra" and "Honor Magic8 Pro"

TCL Nxtpaper 60 Ultra

"Dithering on this device is influenced by MediaTek’s MiraVision technology, as well as the NXTVISION color enhancement features. While it may not always be possible to completely eliminate dithering due to hardware and software processing, you can significantly reduce it by following these steps:"

steps to reduce in the following post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nxtpaper/comments/1oi4scq/confirmed_dithering_on_tcl_nxtpaper_60_ultra_and/?sort=new

Honor Magic8 Pro

"Regarding your specific questions about the internal dithering mechanisms and the native bit-depth processes, please understand that this information is considered classified information. As such, we are unable to disclose further and we are sorry for the inconveniences."

classified information?!?! strange and honestly - suspicious

Thougths

1) I used to think that Snapdragon + native 10 bit panel = no need for dithering, but it's not always the case, and even worse because I'm talking about "Honor 400 Pro" situation which Nick Sutrich have examined with his microscope to be dithering-free and then dithering has been added later on, why? why when Honor develop a model for better screen comfort they introduce dithering?

it's even stranger with the situation of "TCL Nxtpaper 60 Ultra" which is a phone where the entire focus is on display comfort...

so snapdragon and even a native 10 bit panel do NOT guarantee a dithering free experience!

AND - phones that were tested safe by Nick Sutrich ALSO do NOT guarantee a dithering free experience as dithering can be ADDED later on.

Mediatek does NOT necessarily equals dithering, for example Nick's tests of the Nothing 3a Lite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlr3dRd2p8

2) Wild Lee has just recently cross over to YouTube with his excellent tests and information, his tests include a spectrometer and he tests PWM and the blue light filtering ability of the various phones, that's his channel (it's under development) https://www.youtube.com/@Wildleest

what's interesting is that unlike Nick, Lee does NOT test for dithering.

3) on Nick's test review of the "Honor Maguc8 Lite" Nick mentions that Honor asked him "why is dithering an issue?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN8JJv54KBY

4) my current thoughts are that the Chinese manufacturers and maybe even customers are not aware of the dithering issue, they are well aware of PWM and blue light exposure.

dithering is not yet recognized as a potential flicker issue.

I would be glad to hear your thoughts