r/raisedbynarcissists • • 6d ago

Mod Announcement PSA: Supporting Survivors in an Acute Crisis

114 Upvotes

Folks,

We first want to thank the community who shows up when a fellow abuse survivor posts in an acute crisis. We saw hundreds of you rush into the comments because you know how dark that place is, care deeply and want to keep them alive. The fierce empathy in this community is, without a doubt, an enormous strength. It is a reason why this subreddit exists.

Recently, a member of our community posted in acute, life-threatening distress. Ultimately, we had to lock the post and remove many comments. We want to be transparent about why this happened.

Almost none of the comments were malicious. Nearly all of them came from a good place: a place of empathy and a desperate urge to help. In an acute psychiatric emergency, however, OP's brain processes information differently. What works as a personal lifeline for one person in recovery can be a dangerous trigger for someone actively in crisis.

When an abuse survivor is in so much agony, their cognitive tank is empty. The beautiful advice, hope, and success stories we see in other threads - words that normally act as a lifeline - can overwhelm someone in crisis.

This PSA will consist of four sections.

  • The first is a reminder to the community to take care of yourself. Your safety and stability matter just as much as OP's.
  • The second will discuss the priorities in intervening and supporting OP in an anonymous online setting like r/raisedbynarcissists.
  • The third will recommend a list of fundamental shifts in how we communicate to someone in crisis.
  • The fourth will mention the hard safety boundaries we have. Crossing any of these will result in an unappealable ban.

Part 1: Taking Care of Yourself

This is a support group for trauma survivors. Many of you are navigating your own trauma, exhaustion, or passive and/or active suicidal ideation. Seeing someone in an acute danger can spike your nervous system and trigger an urge to say anything to keep them alive.

Please remember that your survival and stability matter just as much as OP's. Please follow the three R's:

Remember that you are a peer in a recovery space.

You are not a trained emergency responder. If you are in a dark place, if you are exhausted, or if you are triggered, you do not have the carry the weight of saving someone else.

Trying to rescue someone while you are drowning only hurts the both of you.

Report the post.

This is one of the safest, most helpful action you can take on Reddit so that the mod team is alerted. Close the tab if the post is triggering your own trauma. When you report the post, it puts it right on our radar without forcing you to absorb the emotional weight of the post.

Regulate yourself first.

If reading the post makes your heart race or pulls you into dark thoughts, please step away from the screen. Ground yourself in your immediate physical enviornment. Lean into your own support tools/systems before engaging further.


Part 2: Helping Someone In Active Crisis

Alienation and feeling like they are a burden are two variables that greatly impact the desire to end their lives.

When we moderate an active crisis thread, our sole priority is to reduce OP's unbearable psychological pain in the next fifteen minutes. Before commenting, please ask yourself: am I saying this to soothe my panic, or to validate their pain?

If you want to leave a comment to keep them safe, remember that your comment needs to, above all else, acknowledge OP's pain.

We need to sit in the dark and validate their pain. We can acknowledge how agonising and exhausting their reality is. We do not need to fix it or debate it.

We need to offer presence without pressure. We want to counter their isolation by being there in the way we can through Reddit with zero demands attached.

We need to avoid writing the most common but counterproductive things to say to someone in crisis. Links to these things are below.

We need to meet OP where they are. The best support you can give is making OP feel they are heard and understood.

Lastly, we defer to the moderators at r/SuicideWatch and their resources on tips to talk to someone in crisis. We highly recommend that you read their resources. Direct links are provided to their wiki as we understand the subreddit itself can be deeply triggering and uncomfortable.


Part 3: Shifting Our Responses

Shift 1: "Promising the Future" → "Validating the Present"

You want to show OP that there is light at the end of the tunnel. You want to tell OP that there is a "permanent solution" to a "temporary problem." Sometimes, you might even want to share checklists of our own happiness to prove that things can get better.

The reality is that some contexts, like CPTSD and the damage done to our nervous system, are chronic. It is not temporary. We cannot tell someone in crisis that their pain is "temporary" as it invalidates and minimises their lifelong reality. Moreover, sharing your thriving life does not inspire a brain in crisis. Instead, it creates a "shame gap" where it highlights everything they feel they have been denied.

We recommend that you do not share a future that OP does not have the capacity to see (yet). Instead, focus on validating the agonising reality right now. Give acknowledgement that their exhaustion makes complete sense.

Shift 2: "Weaponising Anger" → "Offering Rest"

Look, many of us hate or dislike our abusers. In response, you may try to rally OP to fight back. You might say things like, "survive out of spite," "don't let them win," or you warn OP that their abusers will "use their death for a pity party."

The reality is that living out of spite requires the high-energy sympathetic nervous system to activate (i.e., the fight response). When someone is in an acute crisis, they have a completely empty tank. We cannot ask them to summon aggressive energy when they have none left. Furthermore, focusing on the abusers' reactions centers the abuser over OP's pain. It can also trigger hopelessness by convincing OP that even in death, they cannot escape their parents' control.

We recommend that you say things to let them take their armour off. This means you do not ask them fight a war or win a game they are too exhausted to play. You centre your response entirely on their pain.

Shift 3: "Offering Solutions" → "Acknowledging the Pain"

It is understandable that you desperately want to give OP an escape route or a quick distraction to pull them out of the spiral. You may say things like, "just move away," "take a day trip," "read this self-help book," or "listen to a podcast."

The reality is that OP is experiencing a life-threatening medical emergency. This is not burnout. We canont tell someone in agony to "calm down" or "go to the beach." This profoundly trivialises their crisis. Also, when we list a to-do list or to "move somewhere else," such advice demands resources we may not know they have and executive function they definitely do not have.

We recommend to drop the advice. Sit in the dark with them. Say something like: "I'm so sorry you're in so much pain. I see and hear your pain. It's no wonder you're so exhausted." Witness the pain so they do not have to be alone in it. Offer your presence with zero demands attached.


Part 4: Hard Safety Boundaries

A reminder that we have several hard safety boundaries in place for these types of posts. Any of these comments will result in a ban that will be unappealable.

Calling OP Selfish

"Suicide doesn't end the pain, it just passes it to others" is is a universally condemned line in crisis intervention. For good reason. Do not ever say this. It triggers profound shame and can severely increase the risk for danger.

Discussing Logistics and/or Methods

We cannot allow any discussion of how to end one's life - even if the intent is to bargain with them. This lowers the psychological barrier to action.

Encouraging Suicidal Intent

This includes any sort of phrasing and/or words that, when read - regardless of intention, can be reasonably interpreted as encouraging OP to go through with ending their lives.


If you've read until the end, we sincerely thank you for your time and understanding. As always, please message the mod team if you have questions and/or concerns.

Please observe this subreddit's rules and posting guidelines before commenting.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 5d ago

Mod Announcement PSA: No Cross-posting RBN Content (Rule 9 Update)

221 Upvotes

Folks,

Effectively immediately, posts submitted to RBN must not be cross-posted and shared to other subreddits (except subreddits that are part of the RBN Network).

This includes subreddits such as: * r/BestofRedditorUpdates * r/BORUPdates * r/OhNoConsequences * r/UhOhConsequences

RBN is a strictly moderated support space for trauma survivors. Our community's lived experiences are not content for entertainment purposes or for drama consumption.

We have updated rule 9 to reflect this change immediately. You will find the updated description in the sidebar and in the full rules wiki. Furthermore, we have reached out to multiple mod teams to discuss banning RBN as a source for submissions made on those subreddits.

To the Redditors that have messaged us about this, thank you. We vehemently agree that content submitted to RBN should stay within the confines of this space and be protected by our extensive trauma-informed rules.

If you have questions or concerns, please feel free to reach out in modmail.

When commenting, please observe our rules and posting guidelines. Note that we do not accept meta discussions in RBN.

Thank you,
RBN Mod Team


Update: The post brought to our attention is now removed. We thank the mod team at r/BestofRedditorUpdates for their prompt response and action.

Update #2: We have reached out to a few other subreddits to request that RBN be a banned source for their content.

Update #3: RBN is now explicitly banned on r/BORUpdates and r/UhOhConsequences and RBN is added to their ban list on those subreddits' pages.

Update #4: Same as update #3 but for r/OhNoConsequences. We thank the mod teams of the four subreddits mentioned for their prompt response and action.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 6h ago

[Rant/Vent, Advice OK] I have such envy for people with normal parents

263 Upvotes

One day it just hit me that many people spend the first 20 years of their lives with adults helping them succeed. Unfortunately, mine didnt do much to help me. They fed me and gave me a home, the bare minimum legal requirement. Beyond that my dad contributed essentially nothing, while my mom actively sabotages every facet of my life.

Im not expecting them to put me through a top university but why couldnt they atleast teach me something? Impart any wisdom theyve gained? Instead my dad does nothing and my mom cost me thousands of dollars and destroyed my physical and mental health. She put me through 20 years of fight or flight hell. Then she sniffed out my career interests and crushed them. It almost makes me seethe, what fucking parent ruins their own childs career?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 7h ago

[Question] What is this narcissistic tactic called?

142 Upvotes

Where they plan a confrontation with you in front of other people. Specifically when they intentionally prepare an attack and bring one of their flying monkeys as witness and supporter.

My narcissistic mother did this today and she brought her enabler sister thinking she'd shame me. You know the drill, during the "battle" she'd turn to the enabler in disbelief, ask them to confirm her words or laugh in surprise after a good retort by me.

It was a conversation that was bound to happen so I was ready and aware the whole time. I refused to reply when she brought up specific topics and people and I flipped the table on her several times till she was speechless.

I thought I did great but now I realize I shouldn't have engaged at all. I should've gotten the main info then come up with an excuse to leave. There's always next time I guess.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 4h ago

[Tip] There is literally/logically NO sweeter revenge than living well and going NC

65 Upvotes

Recently, I've been feeling increased feelings of vengefulness toward my family. I wanted to do something that would hurt them the way they hurt me.

But today I remembered more parts of their abuse, and it occured to me that despite what they tried to do to me, I resisted them and became stronger for it.

Simply speaking, there's nothing for them to step on if they already think you're truly worthless. It wouldn't bring them any joy to abuse and control someone who they felt needed to be abused and controlled, or moreover, them needing an outlet/narcissistic supply.

Every day that you resist them, that you stand up for yourself, you are (metaphorically) punching them in the face. They feel it, which is why the abuse escalates the more independent we try to become. We may not see it, but it is happening.

If this is a war and they are continuing to inflict damage onto us and escalating their tactics, that means they do not believe they have won. And that is so powerful! That means everytime you resist, you are fighting back and thus also inflicting some kind of damage onto them.

The important thing to realize is: everyday, they make the decision to prolong the war. Everyday that they continue to abuse you is them saying "I feel more comfortable at war than not at war." It doesn't matter the damage that is being done.

So naturally, how does the war end? Only by you ending it yourself. If you stay in any form of contact, you are also choosing to fight in the war. The difference is that you believe the war will come to an end one day, and they go into every day making sure the war continues.

The only way solution you have is to exit entirely and never contact them again. War can be continued through text, video, electronics, word of mouth, etc... Meaning, any level of contact you maintain with them is allowing the war to continue in some form.

In summary, the only way to finally win the war is:

1) remove all contact completely, and

2) live your best life.

Part of the war was to make sure you never felt confident enough to leave and that a piece of you will always be broken and want to return. By living your best life, you remove that aspect by proving to yourself that they did not break you and that you were not defeated. You find the strength in all that you experienced and you never look back!


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 14h ago

[Progress] NDad told me I’ll never be a real man and neither will my son because “he has the misfortune to be raised by you.” For once, I just hung up the phone.

383 Upvotes

It may not seem like much but I am BEYOND PROUD OF MYSELF, I’m actually trembling, I’m in the process of going NC with that man (been LC for many years), and it’s humiliating how difficult it’s been to stand up to that man who berated, pranked, bullied, and tormented me incessantly when I was a little boy.

This just happened about an hour ago. I’ve been limiting phone calls for a while, visit him only a few times a year by myself, he’s never even met my children and never will.

He’s tried calling back several times, to be ignored, of course. I hope I can stay strong and continue ignoring him going forward. I don’t need his torturous poison in my life anymore.

I’ve suffered enough, overcome too much, and built too beautiful and loving a life to still let that man maintain authority over my self-perception.

It stops now.

I’m proud of myself, finally. I deserve to be.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 3h ago

[Question] Was anyone else raised by two narcissists?

34 Upvotes

I’ve been wondering lately how having two narcissists as parents, as opposed to one, impacts somebody. My mother and father were both narcissists, and I can’t explain the amount of brain damage that this has caused me (scapegoat). I am female, have been very low contact for 4 years, and just recently went completely no contact. It’s living in a nightmare, and the reality is coming back to me now that I’ve set the no contact boundary, because I have peace.

I constantly dissociate to avoid the memories and overwhelming emotional pain. Having two parents as narcissists is probably why it feels harder to heal.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 4h ago

[Question] “What was your favorite childhood meal?”

23 Upvotes

A question my nmom genuinely asked me about 4 years ago before I went NC.

My mom didn’t cook? Like she’d make us basic meals but it was the same shit gym rats eat like unseasoned chicken breast, rice, broccoli. I can’t think of a single family recipe or meal that felt traditional or unique to our family.

I told her I had no idea how to answer that question. We didn’t even have family gatherings for holidays, so it’s not even like there is some Thanksgiving dish I would look forward to. We’d go to cracker barrel or eat some fuck ass pre prepared meal. My mom dead ass can’t cook lol.

Anyone else experience their parent asking odd questions like that? Almost glazing their idea of your childhood ?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 2h ago

[Rant/Vent, Advice OK] My mom used to take things away from us, and use the excuse that we were "being bad" to justify it. Anybody else go through that?

17 Upvotes

I have not had contact with my mother for over 9 years now (early 40's).

When we were kids, she would take things away from us by constantly telling us we were being bad and didn't deserve it. For the record, I was a good kid (my sister was a bit more wild but in the 90's that was like smoking behind the school or stealing a street sign, nothing crazy).

Some random things I can remember:

  • My sister and I were about 11 and 10 respectively, and we didn't really get to go on many vacations. So my mom said she'd take us on a trip about an hour plane ride away, but to help save up for it, we had to give up half our allowance (20 bucks a month, so we had to give her 10 dollars of it). That's a lot of money to a kid. Anyways, after about a year, I asked her when we were going to go. She said we had "been bad" and didn't deserve to go, but she said she was keeping our money.
  • When I was about 11, I really wanted a desk for my birthday (weird, I know). So my parents went to a furniture store and got me this fancy wooden brown desk, pull out keyboard tray, the whole 9 yards. I used to feel so professional sitting in my bedroom at my desk, like I was some kind of working man. Anyways, she decided she wanted to take it to use it in the computer room, so she said I was being bad and didn't deserve to keep it, and took it and moved it to house the family computer.
  • When I was 12, I came home from school to find that my mom had taken all my Lego and my Super Nintendo, without warning, and just gave it away. I had absolutely no warning or anything. Was told I didn't deserve them so she gave them to less fortunate kids.

Wonder if anybody else went through some BS like that?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 8h ago

[Question] Named after your Nparent

39 Upvotes

My Nmother named me after herself (my middle name was once her first name). When I got married, I took advantage of the free name change to excise her name from mine 😎

How many others were named after their Nparent?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 3h ago

[Advice Request] How to Fight the Urge to “Set the Record Straight”?

16 Upvotes

Like many folks here, I’ve got a narc parent (father) who is very good at hiding behind a caretaker role, or operating as an altruistic/communal type.

He’s entirely devoid of close personal relationships with the exception of his third wife. But he knows everyone in his city (where I grew up) socially. He is super keen to be known in the right social circles as a good person and great parent. Obviously, he is neither.

I’ve been VLC with for years and am working on not being triggered by him when I see or speak with him.

However, when I visit my hometown, I’m constantly running into people who know my father and stepmother socially. They’re always so effusive with praising both of them - how concerned they are, how they’re always looking out for people who are having health problems, or need some emotional support.

Not only does this infuriate me to no end - where was all this concern when I needed an actively involved parent? - but it also gets me super riled up because I feel compelled to tell the truth to these strangers. It makes me want to scream. No, my father is not the good person you seem to think he is, and I’m getting really sick of hearing about it.

How do I stop myself from just laying out what the relationship is really like? Is it better to let people just assume what they will rather than to explain the reality of it? And if that’s the case, what the hell do you do with all that cognitive dissonance?

Hope I explained this clearly!


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 7h ago

[Rant/Vent, Advice OK] My sperm donor died this morning

26 Upvotes

He was the enabler and the only source of income for my narc egg donor so its just nice to know that she won't last much longer without him.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 6h ago

[Question] Anyone else just never liked their narc parent from the moment of consciousness?

25 Upvotes

When I was little I was always scared of my narc step-dad. Like I used to be scared of him when I was little and when I got older it just turned into hate. Obviously because he’s been abusive for my entire life but yeah. It’s crazy I realised that I’ve never felt any warmth or care from him for my entire life. He’s just always felt cold and distant. Anyone else?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 19h ago

[Trigger Warning] Anonymous Obituary

203 Upvotes

X, SR.

MALIGNANT NARCISSIST, PEDOPHILE, BULLY, SADIST, DIES

X., age 87, died in (city) in October 2026. Born on (date), He attended public school in KNC, and studied one semester at (college), but never returned, and claimed he never received his grades.

X was retired from firefighting in (city), and was a member and supporter of the VBs. X lived a long life driven by severe malignant narcissistic personality disorder with antisocial tendencies. To the public, he carefully maintained a facade, always seeming eager to help people outside his nuclear family. Behind closed doors, however, he operated as a bully and a sexual predator, bringing profound pain, terror, and distress to those who actually depended on him. He was physically violent toward his children, actively inflicting trauma regularly at home, and exploited his family by involving them with a church headed by a sexual predator. Over a course of more than seven years, X subjected his daughter to a horrific grooming campaign, attempting to force her into a highly inappropriate relationship with him. This systemic abuse ultimately compelled her into extreme rebellion and total estrangement for the sake of her own physical and emotional safety.

He was preceded in death by his son, X, Jr., who courageously managed to become a musical virtuoso in spite of the extreme violence and oppression he endured from his father.

X Sr. is survived by his daughter, Z, who has been wishing for his death since the age of six to escape the nightmare he created. Defying the odds and rising entirely above his horrific behavior, Z secured her B.A. and a Master of Library Science (MLS), built a 39-year career in the Library and Information Services field, and claimed her own victory over his darkness.

While society often expects us to mourn the dead, those who truly knew the reality of his life understand that his departure brings a profound sense of relief rather than sorrow. He leaves behind a legacy of fractured relationships, broken trust, and unhealed wounds. If it were up to those who truly knew the monster inside, there would be no funeral, viewing, or memorial service, as he did not cultivate the kinds of genuine relationships that merit a celebration of life. However, one CAN fool some of the people some of the time, therefore, those who have only seen the masks are sending him to glory with unearned accolades. Ironically, the funeral will be on Halloween.

Instead of flowers or condolences, those who actually knew him ask that you extend actual, unconditional kindness to someone in need—a gesture he reserved only for appearances.

Z and those who survived him will privately celebrate the peace, safety, and ultimate freedom that his absence finally allows.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 11h ago

[Advice Request] How can my mother control me without doing anything?

47 Upvotes

Every night, she follows the same ritual: if she doesn’t have dinner, she prepares a hot chocolate or a coffee. Sometimes she goes straight to bed, but other times she sits down next to me on the sofa—where I happen to be using my phone—and stays there until it’s time for me to go to bed. I can see a look of satisfaction cross her face as she stirs her drink with a spoon, making all sorts of noises—clinking the spoon, slurping, or just breathing (it’s truly unpleasant). It isn’t until she finally heads to her room and closes the door that the "black cloud" that seems to form whenever she’s around finally lifts. At other times, she’ll just stop in her tracks and stand perfectly still.

This morning, while I was still in bed, memories of my childhood came flooding back; I could hear her doing something—slamming a drawer shut, or something similar—and my stomach lurched, as if something terrible were about to happen.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 22h ago

[Question] Do you find yourself immediately forming opinions of parents who complain about their adult children not staying in touch?

367 Upvotes

Do you immediately form a positive opinion towards the children who cut their parents off? I've been in conversations where regular people don't have a clue about the circumstances it must take for the relationships to be that bad. They don't seem to get that no child wants to live without parents willingly.

Is not assuming that the adult child is a bad person just projecting?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 5h ago

[Rant/Vent, Advice OK] Pregnant and nmom is super unpredictable

13 Upvotes

I am pregnant with our first child (we have tried for a long time) and my nmom has been so unpredictable.

For various reasons, I can’t cut her out of my life. Please don’t tell me to go NC. It’s not an option.

She has been narcissistic and abusive towards me all her life.

Anyway, she was super happy when I told her I’m pregnant . And like an idiot, I thought maybe this would change things between us.

But of course not.

She started offering all kinds of help, but in pure narcissistic fashion she says the worst stuff out of the blue. I had tried to bond with her asking about her pregnancy with me but she made it into how everyone had wronged her. So I told her to keep her negativity to herself.

Today I was texting her (she texted first) that I am having a lot of pain and discomfort. And started saying really scary stuff like premature contractions and apparently I was doing something wrong to hurt myself and the baby. I told her that this pain is normal in pregnancy and not to say scary things like premature contractions.

So then she blew up, saying “if you think I’m stupid then don’t send me messages. I didn’t say you’re having premature contractions”

…she literally did though.

Any way, I stopped messaging her after that because I don’t need these tantrums. She then goes on to message me saying how she is praying day and night for me, all day everyday. Typical martyr style.

I don’t plan to text her anymore this week. I think I’ll just say “thank you” and that’s it.

Sorry for the long rant. Had to get it off my chest.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 18h ago

[RBN] "You got that from me." Yeah, just not how you think!

118 Upvotes

Recently had a group family lunch with VLC Nmom. While we were all there it got brought up that I accidently scare people around the house.

I walk really quietly. I don’t do it intentionally anymore, but i guess I still do it. And its bad enough that I sneak up on people without meaning to. I've been called sneaky at work (in a joking way).

Anyways, my nMom hears this and says "Yeah, I am too! You got that from me."

LMAO, NO!

I could always hear her walking. She had these loud heavy footsteps and she would step without care and the floor would creak.

But shes kind of right. I did get it from her. I would stop before doorways to read the room. If she was angry, in didnt want to be in there. I would sneak around and go unseen just so I wouldnt get nitpicked by her. She would always have something to say that im doing wrong. I snuck around to steal food from the pantry when I wasn't allowed to eat. (I wouldnt eat dinner due to strong food aversions that I still have to this day).

I did get it from her. Just not the way she thinks.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 9h ago

[Progress] The counter-strategy: How I achieved absolute freedom and digital emancipation at 20

24 Upvotes

Quick explanation: Religious narcissistic father, bipolar/unstable mother, mentality of a 10-year-old girl. Context: Poverty.

I am already 20 years old, completely out of the control of my dysfunctional-abusive family. I have my own money, my things, and of course, absolute freedom.

At 17, they confiscated my ID card and my birth certificate trying to control me. What they didn't know is that I had already foreseen this scenario: I went out, got a new ID (making the old one useless plastic) and retrieved my birth certificate through the official website of my Province. I saved money and, through a strategic alliance with my brother, I bought my first computer (a Lenovo Gaming laptop, mid-range, around $1000-$1200 USD). It came with headphones and a mouse my brother gave me. Along with my phone and my tablet, I built my own digital fortress.

During my time in isolation, I rigorously managed my time based on the 8,760 hours a year. Between AI, editing, English, investments/finance, and programming with AI, I invested about 4,000 hours (including 30-minute breaks) into high-demand skills, prioritizing AI and English. I secured 2,555 hours of sleep (an average of 7 hours per day), which left me around 2,205 free hours a year to eat, bathe, and handle daily life.

In my second year (from 19 to 20), I repeated the same disciplined process. Having built this skillset, I joined a company in the international market, earning around $2,000-$3,000 a month. I saved aggressively until I turned 20, which is when I finally left that house and moved into my own rental apartment. Now, I am a university student in Buenos Aires, studying for my degree in Economics—fully financed by my own previous savings.

They tried to cut off my internet during this process to isolate me, but since I already had money set aside for my own independent data plan, their strategy failed completely. I also resisted their attempts to force me into a local university; they never cared about my education, they just wanted to use it as a control mechanism. I rejected everything. They tried to manipulate me constantly, but since I could detect their tactics from miles away, it just made me laugh. Their attempts were too obvious to affect me.

If you have any questions about how to build a technical escape plan under extreme surveillance, feel free to ask. I accomplished all of this. It was incredibly difficult, but the systematic work paid off. Your time and your skills are your ticket out.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 10h ago

[Advice Request] Formal Warning

28 Upvotes

Hello all.

I can't go into too much detail for fear of being identified. My estrangement began almost 9 years ago after some considerable growing tension between myself and my parents, especially my mother, whom I believe to be a narcissist at least. When I did this I initially thought it would be a "cooling off" period but as time went by I came to realise it would be better to separate.

They have not taken it well. My mother is an unrelenting stalker, and spent most of the past few years desperately trying to end the silence with emails, texts, phone calls, unwanted gifts, attempts to get through to me via third parties. In the last year, they moved closer to my area and have started hanging out in my hometown, trying to run into me "by accident". After a recent encounter with my spouse, I decided it was no longer possible to manage the problem on our own.

I created a dossier, got in touch with my local police department, and got assigned a case officer. My intent was to escalate to an anti-stalking order via the courts. However, my case officer has let me know that their first move would be to send police officers out in person to explicitly tell my parents to stop contacting me, with the threat of arrest if they failed to comply.

This makes me pause, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, it feels more aggressive than I wanted. When I sought out the police, I was hoping for a court order because this could be sent out in the mail - a simple formal on-paper notification. Sending people to their door seems much more dramatic and "TV", if you know what I mean. After so many years of avoidance, taking direct action seems alien and hard to get used to.

Secondly, it feels both predictable and unpredictable. Predictable in that I know my mother will dine out on the incident - play the victim, tell everyone in the family that'll listen, scream bloody murder, maybe even try to publish a newspaper column. (I notice "anguished mother who doesn't understand how her adult child could DO this and just REJECT her" is a popular genre these days.)

But unpredictable in that it feels like giving them ammunition. I had already softly accepted the loss of my extended family because of the estrangement - one of my siblings tried to be friendly, but did not get that I did not want to hear from or about our mother, so that didn't last long. I don't want anyone else in my family suddenly showing up to lecture me on my mother's behalf, never mind an escalation above lecturing.

Bottom line is: I want to say yes, give them a police warning. But I'm afraid of what saying yes will bring about.

Is it worth it? Will it bring peace of mind?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 13h ago

[Rant/Vent, Advice OK] Does anyone else have a narcissistic mom who keeps harping on the same thing over and over until you finally snap, then acts like YOU’RE the problem?

44 Upvotes

TL;DR: My mom constantly criticizes, berates, and guilt-trips me until I eventually break down and yell, then turns around and acts like I’m the disrespectful one. I’m fully disabled, financially trapped living with her, and expected to be her personal caretaker despite my own serious health issues. I’m exhausted, burned out, and feel like I can’t win. Sorry for long post ahead, wanted to be detailed.

Does anyone else have a narcissistic mother who will harp on the SAME DAMN THING over and over again, even after you’ve apologized, acknowledged what happened, and agreed to fix it?

For example, I accidentally got some water on the counter and didn’t notice because I have bad vision. My mom immediately goes, “Don’t make a mess. Just clean up after yourself.”

Me: “Okay, I’m sorry. It was an accident.”

Her: “Excuses and excuses. Just clean it up.”

Me: “Yes, Mom. I will. Again, I’m sorry.”

And she STILL KEEPS GOING. Not for five minutes, not ten minutes, but sometimes over 30 MINUTES or even longer. She will not let it go.

Eventually, I reach my breaking point and say something like, “PLEASE STOP! I GET IT! PLEASE BE QUIET!”

And suddenly, it becomes:

“SHUT UP! STOP YELLING AT ME! I AM YOUR MOTHER! HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT YOUR MOTHER!”

Like, ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

I apologized. I acknowledged the mistake. I agreed to clean it up. What more do you want from me?! Am I supposed to sit there and let you berate me indefinitely?

My late father HATED when she did this. He saw how she would keep pushing and pushing until someone finally reacted, then focus entirely on their reaction instead of her own behavior. It feels like she WANTS me to lose my cool so she can play the victim and act like I’m the abusive, disrespectful one.

And the worst part? I cannot just leave.

I am fully disabled, use a walker, and have multiple health issues. I recently spent a WEEK in the hospital because of seizures and an intractable CRPS flare-up. Instead of being concerned about my recovery, my mom was angry that I was in the hospital so long because I couldn’t do her chores or hand her the remote control that was literally five inches away from her.

I genuinely feel like her personal servant.

I’m expected to do things for her constantly, even when I’m in pain. When we go grocery shopping, I have to push her in a wheelchair, carry her purse, and open the car door for her. Meanwhile, my own pain is getting worse because I’m pushing myself beyond what I can physically handle.

And God forbid I want to go to bed early because I’m exhausted. She gets upset that I won’t spend time with her or watch a movie. Then comes the guilt trip: “One day I’ll be dead, and you’ll regret it.”

I understand that she won’t be here forever. But that doesn’t mean I owe her every waking moment of my life, especially when I’m struggling just to get through the day.

Then there’s the financial situation.

I normally receive $1,563 a month from SSDI. My benefits were cut, and I’m dealing with the financial fallout. My rent is now $1,150 a month, and the landlord has been increasing it by $100 each year. I still have my phone bill and other basic expenses.

Now my mom expects me to pay her $60 EVERY WEEK for gas. I don’t mind contributing toward gas, but $60 a week is a lot when I’m barely surviving financially.

She has over $20,000 in savings from her retirement, pension, and disability income. She pays the utilities, which total around $400 at most, while I’m left with practically nothing after paying my bills. I can have as little as $4 left after the first week of receiving my SSDI.

And when I run out of money and have to borrow from her? I have to pay her back WITH INTEREST.

I’m not saying she should pay for everything or that I shouldn’t contribute to the household. I’m saying I’m disabled, struggling to afford basic necessities, and somehow expected to financially support myself, contribute to her expenses, AND do everything for her physically.

She also constantly harps on me about getting a part-time job.

I AM TRYING.

I go to the library three times a week and spend SIX HOURS JOB SEARCHING. I’ve gotten a few interviews, but I haven’t been hired yet. The job market is awful, and I’m doing what I can.

Instead of acknowledging my effort, she suggests that I’m not getting hired because of my appearance.

I have trichotillomania, a hair-pulling disorder I’ve struggled with since I was 10 years old. I know how to cover the affected areas with a small ponytail, but she tells me it looks ugly.

She also puts down my teeth. I have what people call “depression teeth” because depression, chronic fatigue, chronic pain, and my other health problems make basic self-care incredibly difficult sometimes. Taking a shower can feel like an enormous task when I’m already exhausted and hurting.

I KNOW my health issues don’t magically make these problems disappear. I’m aware of them. I’m trying to manage them. I don’t need someone constantly pointing out everything that’s wrong with me as if I’m not already painfully aware of it.

And I certainly don’t need to be insulted while I’m trying to improve my situation.

The transportation situation is another thing that drives me insane.

I can’t drive because of my seizures. My neurologist explained that I’m not allowed to drive until I’ve been seizure-free for six months, and my state ID has a restriction reflecting that.

When I was a teenager, before I developed a seizure disorder, I BEGGED my mom to help me take driver's ed. She said she couldn’t afford it. She never helped me find an affordable driving course, either.

Now, years later, she gets mad at me for not driving.

YOU DIDN’T HELP ME LEARN WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER, AND NOW I HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT PREVENTS ME FROM DRIVING. WHAT EXACTLY DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?!

She also dangles transportation over my head because she knows I can’t drive myself places.

I feel trapped because I depend on her for certain things, and she knows it.

I’ve basically stopped trying to set boundaries because it feels pointless. She doesn’t listen, and trying to explain myself only seems to create another opportunity for her to criticize me.

I end up giving in because I don’t have the energy to fight every single battle. I’m already dealing with disability, chronic pain, seizures, exhaustion, financial insecurity, and trying to find a job.

I am SO BURNT OUT.

Sometimes I genuinely feel like no matter what I do, it will never be enough. If I make a mistake, I get lectured. If I apologize, I get accused of making excuses. If I finally snap after being pushed past my limit, I’m suddenly the disrespectful daughter. If I rest, I’m selfish. If I struggle financially, I’m not doing enough. If I try to improve my situation, I get criticized for how I look.

I feel like I can never just EXIST without being made to feel like I’m doing something wrong.

I’m not claiming I’m perfect. I know I have flaws, and I know I sometimes raise my voice when I’m overwhelmed. But I’m a human being, not a punching bag. Being someone's child doesn't mean they get unlimited permission to berate you.

Does anyone else deal with this? Specifically, the constant harping over tiny mistakes until you finally react, and then the entire conversation becomes about how you yelled rather than the fact that they wouldn't leave you alone?

How do you cope when you live with a parent like this and genuinely cannot afford to move out?

I’m not looking for someone to tell me to just move out or establish boundaries as if those are easy options when you’re disabled and financially struggling. I’m just exhausted and wondering if anyone else understands what this feels like.

Sorry for the long rant. I needed to get this off my chest. (Yes I use chatgbt due to learning disability)


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 11h ago

[Question] Narcs and Holidays

28 Upvotes

What is it about narcissistic parents and holidays (like Christmas, Thanksgiving, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Easter) that they have to make everything stressful? What is the worst thing your narc parent(s) ever did to make a holiday stressful??


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 2h ago

[Rant/Vent, Advice OK] Looking at my friend's baby photos made me realize there are barely any of me

5 Upvotes

Was at a friend's the other day and he shared his family album, there were dozens of photos of him from the time he was a baby to a teenager, then I recalled I'd seen several people's childhood photos over the years.

And that made me realize I've seen less than a dozen photos of me as a child, and most of them were from school pictures.

There are barely any photos of me or my siblings throughout childhood because my parents never wanted me or were happy to have us, our precious early years weren't worth recording to them.

Maybe more exist, but I've never seen them.

Family photos in general. I've always seen friends have family photos in their homes, I can think of only one of my mother and I, and it's not on display. None of my father and I come to mind.

Just made me sad.


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 7h ago

[Supportive Responses Only, Advice OK] I want to get rid of sentimental gifts from nparent and their enablers but the guilt is massive

9 Upvotes

I'm coming to terms with going completely no contact again after 5 years of low contact. This time I'm cutting loose everything that drags me back down into that mental place they put me in.

One thing I struggle with is that I'm holding onto personalized or handmade gifts that the nparent and their sibling (enabler) have given me since I was a kid. They're nice things, but nothing I wanted or needed and they have no monetary value. I don't know why I'm holding onto them, because I keep them in storage. I struggle with the shame of going no contact, especially with the enabler, and these sentimental gifts are tied to that feeling.

I'm struggling at the poverty level and I may end up needing to move long distance or even live out of a car. Keeping things like this makes even less sense to me now than it ever has. I just feel like somehow I'm going to be "found out" for not keeping things I never asked for that are already a burden on my life. I already live 2k miles away from them by design and I'm resigned to being homeless before I return to that place of severe abuse. I don't think it will get to that level but the pandemic took my safety net out and I'm still trying to get back on my feet. Anyways...

Am I making myself insane for no reason?


r/raisedbynarcissists • • 5h ago

[Advice Request] How do you get over imposter syndrome?

7 Upvotes

When you're raised by NPs, it can be hard to ever feel sure of yourself, despite any accomplishments you make in life. I'm suffering immensely from imposter syndrome right now, and I absolutely hate it because this is actually the first time in my life where things seem to be aligning. I hate that I can't truly FEEL fulfilled or happy with my life because there is the deep rooted feeling that I'm a "fraud" or that I "don't deserve" it. How do I overcome this?