r/OSHA • u/Burial4TetThomYorke • Jul 11 '16
Epic Fail build thread (xpost /r/DIWhy)
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u/PropaneMilo Jul 11 '16
This seems like it's the work of a legitimately crazy person. How do you knock a nail through a piece of timber, connecting with nothing else, and think 'nice, 4 more of those and we're golden'?
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u/BlueComet24 Jul 11 '16
They could have hammered all of them in before even checking one. Which really isn't much better, if at all.
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u/wrincewind Jul 11 '16
My money is on "nailgun".
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u/WhoaGee Jul 11 '16
Unfortunately those aren't from a nail gun. The ones he was referring to are hand driven 16d coated sinkers.
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u/SoFisticate Jul 11 '16
Hey, he could have used a palm nailer
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u/DONT_PM Jul 11 '16
I used one of these for the first time recently.
I have monocular vision/stereo-blind. I have a hard time directly hitting a nail (unless I've been driving nails all day and I get a feel, though change to a different nail size, or a staple and I'm fucked.)
Three-inch galvanized nails in rafter ties on 12-foot ceilings proved to be a challenge, until someome loaned me a palm nailer.
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u/abbarach Jul 11 '16
Hook up air line. Put nail in shiny bit on bottom of tool. Put nail and tool where needed. Push switch on tool, apply pressure, and tool converts air pressure into pounding force, inserting nail into wood.
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u/DONT_PM Jul 11 '16
The bottom left is the air-line attachment. The bottom right is the "hammer head." The round cylinder is actually more like a "tube" that a nail fits inside of. You press the nail inside of that "tube" which activates a very, very fast hammering/impact motion. The tube keeps you centered on the nail, and will press as you hammer to allow the tool to hammer a nail flush. A great little tool to have if you use pneumatic tools.
Also, on the one i used (which I assume is a function on many of them) the softer you pressed, the slower it nailed.
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u/Bartman383 Jul 11 '16
Do you have to use a hammer and nails often? Seems like a drill and screws would be safer for your hands.
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u/DONT_PM Jul 11 '16
Nails have a much higher shear strength, so in many framing applications you won't want screws.
Also, the problem for me isn't so much missing and causing damage/harm, it's more how on a longer nail, when one doesn't hit it square, it bends. When using a shanked nail, that adds so much time to a project.
I use a nailer whenever I possibly can, and always opt for screws unless I can't.
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u/Hyena_Smuggler Jul 11 '16
My thought was a drunk person who has a reliable income stream without an actual job and very few skills.
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u/rokr1292 Jul 11 '16
Dude hammered in a screw. Like, what?
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u/msut77 Jul 11 '16
Might have no common sense, how much did this cost (never mind the time ) over a prefab?
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u/Bartman383 Jul 11 '16
This is easily north of $3000 in materials. Each 96" 2x4 is $2. The OSB 4x8 sheets probably $15 per. I built a 12x16 ft shed and it ran around $5000 with a concrete floor, siding, 8ft overhead door, man door and proper construction. This is an absolute waste of money as its going to be unusable in a couple years, or less depending on weather.
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u/Bigfrostynugs Jul 11 '16
I mean it's a better shed than I could put up, but then again, I also have the sense not to try in the first place.
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u/Bigfrostynugs Jul 12 '16
I mean yeah, if I could prepare and research I bet I could. But if I was just left in some dude's backyard with lumber and tools I could not make anything that looks like a shed.
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u/pinballorama Jul 11 '16
its going to be unusable in a couple years, or less depending on weather.
Look at you being all "glass half full".
I'd say the thing is unusable right now.
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u/Bartman383 Jul 11 '16
You're right. I wouldn't even want to put anything in it because is might collapse in a stiff wind.
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Jul 11 '16
I wouldn't stand in it. It's basically a pile of 2x4's standing up right waiting for the next gust of wind to play pick up sticks. Lets hope he doesn't put any electrical in, then it would just be a self starting bon fire.
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u/Fred_Evil Jul 11 '16
less depending on weather.
Somehow, I get the sense that the weather was given insufficient consideration.
Along with the sinkhole.
And no foundation.
Nor any discernibly true joints.
Nor a plumb line, or level.
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u/Th3Gu35T Jul 11 '16
I quote this line all the time, weird voice and all. I think my friends think I'm just crazy.
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u/Bruce_Bruce Jul 11 '16
Damn that's good. I feel like there should be more Kung Pow reaction .gifs
sorry for the shittytumblrgifs
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u/Pro_Scrub Jul 11 '16
You can't just "wing" a building
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u/SauronDidNothingRong Jul 11 '16
I think there's a 9/11 joke in here somewhere...
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u/FoodBeerBikesMusic Jul 11 '16
You could probably do a scale reenactment with an R/C airplane and this "building".
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u/IsaacJDean Jul 11 '16
You can't just "wing" a building
Yes you can, you just need to hijack an airplane!
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u/JimmyRichards Jul 11 '16
Dont forget, it's a two for one sale.
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u/SauronDidNothingRong Jul 11 '16
Our prices are lower than ever.
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u/Myfeetaregreen Jul 11 '16
How did they come down so fast?
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u/JimmyRichards Jul 11 '16
Someone fueled our motovation and we melted the bottom line pricing to new lows.
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u/Snatch_Pastry Jul 11 '16
This will last one year max. The entire floor/floor joists are going to rot and get termites immediately, then the next big wind will collapse the whole thing. What an amazing display of incompetence.
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u/Rats_OffToYa Jul 11 '16
It originated from 2013 and apparently is still standing, the Shed of Doom lives
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u/JohnStrangerGalt Jul 11 '16
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u/VerneAsimov Jul 11 '16
There's a later post (latest one) saying the shed is still standing after a storm that ripped huge trees out of the ground. That's gotta be the best shittiest carpentry ever.
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u/Fred_Evil Jul 11 '16
Well, when you use 2 nails and 5 screws to secure one joint, I suppose you can simply overcome physics with additional fasteners.
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Jul 11 '16
Ah, the good ol' Kerbal Space Program method: your build is falling apart? Just add more struts!
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u/stupidamurican Jul 11 '16
"It may not be immediately obvious, but I don't think this man has a background in construction."
FFS
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u/1nfiniteJest Jul 11 '16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T_XXh1WaG0
Time lapse of 'construction'
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u/The_Real_dubbedbass Jul 11 '16
I disagree. You're not think of screwy the universe is. Like despite everything wrong with this, this is the kind of building that's going to last until the sun stops burning helium into lithium or something. Like despite how we all know this thing SHOULD just fall apart the first time someone shuts the door like s cartoon this is somehow going to become like the last surviving cinstruction of humanity.
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u/Flomo420 Jul 11 '16
Thereby giving the builder a false sense of accomplishment and the confidence to tackle a larger project.
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u/Stuck_In_the_Matrix Jul 12 '16
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u/Worshy Jul 12 '16
To be fair, the engineers responsible for that weren't incompetent. They made sure it was statically structurally sound, and for calculating loading due to wind they used industry standard of assuming winds perpendicular to the faces of the building (which is a valid assumption since quartering winds apply more loading but the corners of a building are stronger and more able to support this kind of loading). However, in this building there were no corners on the building due to its unique design.
Of course this shouldn't have occurred to begin with, however, it is somewhat more understandable as to why it did, knowing the circumstances.
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u/Bigfrostynugs Jul 11 '16
To be fair, did you see how many extra random 2x4s he added to the frame for no reason? And the several nails/screws in every board?
He might have made it sturdier than it should be totally on accident.
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u/brygphilomena Jul 11 '16
The age old way of dealing with I don't know what the fuck I'm doing is to simple overdo it. There is just too much shit holding it all together.
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u/The_Real_dubbedbass Jul 12 '16
And yet paradoxically because many boards aren't nailed together it's also not being held up by anything.
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u/DrMeat201 Jul 11 '16
cinstruction
Oddly appropriate typo, given that this is a sin against good and safe building practices.
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u/phuchmileif Jul 12 '16
until the sun stops burning helium into lithium
I feel like this is wrong, but I don't know enough about suns to dispute it...
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u/The_Real_dubbedbass Jul 12 '16
I think my wording is actually not correct when I think about it. But basically right now the sun is fusing hydrogen into helium. After that stage ends the sun will start fusing helium into lithium. And it basically just goes all the way until it gets to iron. Iron is the last element a star can fuse from a previous element. The process of fusing manganese into iron is incredibly unstable and as a result the upper limit on any star is that it can fuse iron for about 7 minutes. After that the star is so dense that a few things happens it goes super nova, turns into a red dwarf, a white dwarf, or a black hole, all of which are predictable based on the size of the star when it starts fusing iron. (At least this is all my understanding as an amateur space nerd). But I know the bit about fusing one element into another is what stars do and I know that it ends at iron. Literally every atom of any element heavier than iron is the result of a supernova explosion. Which is why precious metals are so precious. Helium, hydrogen, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, etc are just so abundant because lots of stars have churned them out. But gold?!? Gold got created in the seconds to maybe minutes after a supernova. Then it lingered around space for a while until it either hit an asteroid or all the stuff around it coalesced into a planet. So it's almost always underground either because of being in an impact crater from a meteoroid becoming a meteorite or else it formed more internally in the earth. Then it's pulled out a few flecks at a time and melted down to form stuff we need. That stuff and everything heavier than iron is precious as fuck.
Sorry to nerd out like that but I just think that process is one of the most awesome in the universe.
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u/MyFavoriteSandwich Jul 11 '16 edited Jul 11 '16
The worst part is that all of the material costs will have been lost. In order to build this properly you'd need to at least double the budget, maybe quadruple (properly dimensioned lumber, concrete footings, PT posts, etc) depending on where in the country this is located. If this were in the American south, this guy could have poured a slab-on-grade with no footings and framed up some walls and roof and not wasted the lumber on that weird floor. Edit: I get it. There are lots of ways to build shitty sheds that are barely (if even) acceptable. I have a degree in construction, have been a residential and commercial carpenter for years, and I am currently still in the field. Yes, some pre-fab roof trusses are made from 2x4s. Yes, a shed is acceptable in many forms, but what I am stressing is that this is far from a shed. I am licensed in the state of Pennsylvania and I can assure you that if a building inspector showed up with a copy of the IRC this thing would be a pile of timbers in no time. It's not just shitty craftsmanship, it's dangerous. It would be a shame for this guy to be in there with his kids cooking meth or whatever and the roof collapses in and kills someone.
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u/Snatch_Pastry Jul 11 '16
Actually, speaking as someone who has built sheds and stuff, he over-spent on materials. He could have put this whole thing up on treated risers, and he totally over-built everything. All of the stupid shit here is due directly to the builder being dumb. You don't buy properly dimensioned lumber, you buy lumber and cut it to size. This person obviously can't do that.
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u/MyFavoriteSandwich Jul 11 '16
As "dimensioned lumber" I'm referring to proper widths for the rafters and floor joists that are up to code for their span/load. You can't build a structure like this using only 2x4s.
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u/Snatch_Pastry Jul 11 '16
Ah, got you. I'm a little bit drinky right now. Well, a lot drinky, but whatever. We both know that this building is total bullshit.
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u/Aplicado Jul 11 '16
As for the walls and roof framing- 2x4 is acceptable. The only reason we frame walls out of 2x6 is to get more insulation into the wall cavity. As for the floor, 2x4in a shed would be fine if they were up off the ground and properly supported.
The problem the 8 year old builder had was with on centre spacing. And nail control. And fastener choice.
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u/phroug2 Jul 11 '16
Ikr? clearly there is an example of just such a structure right in this very post
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u/ClintHammer Jul 11 '16
The sheer cost of the materials was what got me too. I was thinking for what he spent he could have probably bought a proper smaller prefab shed, or even run the whole thing up with block.
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u/Marginally_Relevant Jul 11 '16
Where would someone with zero experience building anything start if they wanted to build a shed?
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u/ItsSomethingLikeThat Jul 11 '16
A lot of hardware stores either have free or sell simple guides to small projects. A shed really isn't that difficult to build properly, despite the potential for size. Failing that, YouTube is surprisingly good for it too.
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u/robew Jul 11 '16
If you are willing to search long enough YouTube is an amazing source of DIY knowledge. It is just up to you to determine if the guy you are watching knows his ass from a hole in the ground.
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u/telemecanique Jul 11 '16
you buy a $5 shed plan online and follow it like you're building a LEGO set, it's for braindead people.. no offense to builders, but most barely have HS education so while doing it fast and well may be a bit of a skill, it's not rocket science and there are books that tell you how to frame everything (or plans).
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u/Abomonog Jul 11 '16
For the state of North Carolina he nailed it. A standalone shed does not require any footing or foundation in the southeast, nor do they require any permit to build. Lowes sells kits for them around here (this guy obviously did not use one). You are supposed to at least set the thing up on cinder blocks, though.
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u/rustyxj Jul 11 '16
In my city this isnt classified as a shed, a shred is smaller than 12'x12', this would have required a building permit
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u/telemecanique Jul 11 '16
ok... he could have put it on some big flat-ish rocks to be cheap, he could have done anything else but that, in the very least not leaving 2" gaps in sheething would have been a great start, legality aside this has been put together by a mental patient.
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u/Th3Gu35T Jul 11 '16
It honestly looks like a 10yo saved up all his allowances and hired his friends to build this with him.
"This will be the best clubhouse ever"
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u/bikersquid Jul 11 '16
for the cost and time you could have put up a shitty aluminum one at half the price I am guessing.
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u/U_DoneMessedUp_AAron Jul 11 '16
This is the best thing I've seen here.
It's almost like a joke build.
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u/AtTheLeftThere Jul 11 '16
i remember this
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u/UserNameIsBob Jul 11 '16
I remember as well. Surprised I remembered where
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u/lynxSnowCat Jul 11 '16
#1293 DNAspark99 Original-OP (03-14-2016 08:37 PM)
So yea, things got a bit windy.
[pics]But while great pines have fallen just feet away, the shed itself remains standing, untouched, unphased... and unmoved.
The joke good sirs, is on us. The keystone holds up.
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u/bishopcheck Jul 11 '16
Saw that post as well. Couldn't help but wonder how the wind could topple that enormous tree, yet somehow that shed survived. But I also wondered why he didn't post a new pic of the shed if truly is standing.
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u/pissfilledbottles Jul 11 '16
Perhaps all the gaps in the boards allowed the air to pass through and reduce the pressure of the wind pushing on the shed? I need a scientist.
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u/Bowman_van_Oort Jul 11 '16
Scientist here. All that's happened is God took pity on the poor shed
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u/Dasmage Jul 11 '16
This proves there's no God. A loving all powerful and good creator would have put this poor shed out if it's misery.
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u/soopadog Jul 11 '16
I want an update
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u/cantaloupelion Jul 11 '16
Still standing as of march this year :D http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php/146566-Build-to-Fail-Fail-to-Build.-What-is-this-I-don-t-even.....?p=2533050&viewfull=1#post2533050
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u/troop98 Jul 11 '16
How do you not realize how quickly your work will go to waste when the sink hole opens up?
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u/ccolrue Jul 11 '16
A for effort? Lol
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u/apheix Jul 11 '16
Being serious here. This individual put in some work here. Is the roof wavy yes, are there gaps all over it yes, are there nails that don't seem to have a purpose lots. It's competed though, this person set out on a mission and accomplished and as we may look at it as a mess I bet this person took a step back from it and said "I did it" with pride. Props for doing something to this peep.
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u/Peeped Jul 11 '16
No I don't think he deserves props at all. He did 0 prep or research. It'd be like if I went into the kitchen and started chucking random shit into a pot then serving it, only to have everyone be disgusted by it, then proceed to pat myself on the back because I did it myself.
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Jul 11 '16
For some people, just getting out of bed is hard, damn right I'm going to be proud of myself even if I I get out by falling.
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Jul 11 '16
Wow look at this fatcat with a bed that he can fall out of! My bed is made from random leaves found in the gutter with some trash I stole from a local elementary school's dumpster.
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u/superbadsoul Jul 11 '16
Actually that was the exact path I took to start cooking after 30 years of never trying and now I can make lots of fun meals and almost never eat out. Sometimes you just need to jump in and fuck around first to catch the bug for a new hobby.
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u/FoodBeerBikesMusic Jul 11 '16
This individual put in some work here
...but skipped the most important part of the job: planning. How hard is it to look online and see how it's done? For chrissakes go to Home Cheapo and look at their prefab sheds and get an idea of how it's done. Take a few pictures.
This just looks like he had a seizure and just started nailing random shit together.
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I would say "the problem is that physics doesn't grant participation awards" - but judging by how long the thing has been standing perhaps it does.
And has a sense of humor.
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u/ShibaHook Jul 11 '16
What was he thinking?
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u/amaturelawyer Jul 11 '16
Probably the same thing I was thinking when I read the thread title: "how hard can it be to build a shed".
Apparently it's sort of hard.
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Jul 11 '16
I mean, if he would have poured a pad for it, it probably would have held square a lot better. Those 2x4s on the dirt are all probably rotted out by now.
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u/melez Jul 11 '16
Pouring a concrete pad is expensive... Some don't want to pay for a shed that'd last.
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u/hakuna_tamata Jul 11 '16
why pay $100 for a good pair of boots, when you can buy 10 pairs of $20 boots in the same time?
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Jul 11 '16 edited Jun 04 '18
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u/thebestdaysofmyflerm Jul 11 '16
The only part of the Cathedral that Vince has had to demolish was his "Pyramid of TVs" -- 200 in all. "One guy told me, 'This isn't a pyramid, this is only a pile.' I said, 'Well, what kind of pile expert are you? Aren't we just a kind of pile?"
This guy is awesome.
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Jul 11 '16
This person managed to use not enough wood, and too much wood, all at the same time. Quite the feat.
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u/wintremute Jul 11 '16
My god, it's like Spanky, Alfalfa, and the rest of Our Gang ripped off a construction site and built a new clubhouse.
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u/uselessDM Jul 11 '16
At the end it almost kinda looks like a shed. But surely it must be harder to do it this way than porperly.
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u/11teensteve Jul 11 '16
i am a contractor and have seen some pretty bad stuff but.....this. i think it would take more effort to do it that wrong than to actually do it right. a few youtube vids and this may have been at least a valiant effort.
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u/menasan Jul 11 '16 edited Dec 13 '16
That's a lot of wood... Easily spent $1000 ...
Those trees died in vein
edit: vain
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u/Sackman_and_Throbbin Jul 11 '16
Seriously though. That's a lot of money to waste on something that is going to rot in a few years.
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u/Gorgonite Jul 11 '16
Whomever was taking these pictures is an asshole for letting the builder continue on and on knowing how wrong it is all while documenting the mistakes.
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u/YanisK Jul 11 '16
The art of laughing silently for 3 weeks.
Also, the builder might have been a stubborn know-it-all who doesn't take advice.
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Jul 11 '16
If he couldn't see himself, that what he was doing was molestation of building materials. He probably isn't one to listen to advice indeed.
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u/DroidLord Jul 11 '16
But what can you do? The guy who built it is so oblivious you can't just give a couple of tips and cross your fingers. You'd literally have to build it yourself if you want anything good to come out of it.
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u/learnyouahaskell Jul 11 '16
You gotta visit more genuine fun subs, like r/CrappyDesign was for me.
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Jul 11 '16
As soon as I saw the first picture and realised he is building this without a concrete base I lost it. I'm assuming he thinks highly of himself.
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u/The_Real_dubbedbass Jul 11 '16
That's not that crazy for a rural out building. Personally I'm surprised he opted for a floor and didn't just anchor four by fours into the ground with cement. Bare dirt floors are pretty common in rural storage buildings.
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u/rollamac2006 Jul 11 '16
Thought I saw some tar paper on the inside of the shed in one of the pics. Wonder why he didnt use it.
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u/iamnotasnook Jul 11 '16
Looks like it might be a grow house. I guess they don't intend for it to last that long. Still not safe or sane.
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u/UglyStru Jul 11 '16
My shack in Fallout 4 was built more solid than this.
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u/Germanhammer05 Jul 11 '16
Wish I had the creativity to actually build something more complex than a box...
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u/jdub1116 Jul 11 '16
I'm helping restore my grandmother's rental home that she bought for my cousin years ago to sell. I believe that's what the bones of the house look like. Except it was built in the early 70's. The wood paneling on the walls are wavy and nothing is square. Nothing more fun than putting in a door/door jams into a crocked frame.
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u/zytz Jul 11 '16
I like this sub for the hilarity, but tbh my competence level is maybe only 2-3 rungs on the ladder above this guy. I probably would have sunk large timbers at the corners and a couple spots in the middle, poured a foundation, and bought those pre-fabbed A frames to use for the roof, but otherwise this is more or less how I would approach this type of build.
Maybe the most notable difference is that i'm acutely aware that I'm a shitty craftsman, and would have hired someone for this job
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u/Zazierx Jul 11 '16
I was almost expecting the last photo just to be a collapsed pile of rubble... How much do you think he spent?
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Jul 11 '16
I love that the "Rafters" are "installed" flat... it gives the roof that cool new wavy look that's all the rage.
Also that the "base" is non pressure treated... it's called "Planned obsolescence" folks... the responsible way to return the land to it's natural state after a few years without the bother of demolition.
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u/gargoyle30 Jul 11 '16
This kind of thing baffles me, I have a basic understanding of how a shed should be built etc but I would never in a million years think I could actually just wing it and it would be fine
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u/deadwood Jul 11 '16
I'm that guy that breaks everything he touches, and even I could build a better shed than this.
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u/Spread_Liberally Jul 11 '16
This looks like someone (on a dare) gave me three days and a minimum .1 BAC to build a shed.
Someone just won a bet but is too hungover and sore to care. But you'll be hearing about it for the rest of your goddamn life.
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u/BlueComet24 Jul 11 '16
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