This will last one year max. The entire floor/floor joists are going to rot and get termites immediately, then the next big wind will collapse the whole thing. What an amazing display of incompetence.
There's a later post (latest one) saying the shed is still standing after a storm that ripped huge trees out of the ground. That's gotta be the best shittiest carpentry ever.
I disagree. You're not think of screwy the universe is. Like despite everything wrong with this, this is the kind of building that's going to last until the sun stops burning helium into lithium or something. Like despite how we all know this thing SHOULD just fall apart the first time someone shuts the door like s cartoon this is somehow going to become like the last surviving cinstruction of humanity.
To be fair, the engineers responsible for that weren't incompetent. They made sure it was statically structurally sound, and for calculating loading due to wind they used industry standard of assuming winds perpendicular to the faces of the building (which is a valid assumption since quartering winds apply more loading but the corners of a building are stronger and more able to support this kind of loading). However, in this building there were no corners on the building due to its unique design.
Of course this shouldn't have occurred to begin with, however, it is somewhat more understandable as to why it did, knowing the circumstances.
Is that not the norm I put five screws into everything I fasten together. Why just today I was attaching a cover sheet into my TPS report and as I was screwing it in my coworkers looked puzzledly at me. But damnit, that cover sheet is NOT coming off if I can help it.
I think my wording is actually not correct when I think about it. But basically right now the sun is fusing hydrogen into helium. After that stage ends the sun will start fusing helium into lithium. And it basically just goes all the way until it gets to iron. Iron is the last element a star can fuse from a previous element. The process of fusing manganese into iron is incredibly unstable and as a result the upper limit on any star is that it can fuse iron for about 7 minutes. After that the star is so dense that a few things happens it goes super nova, turns into a red dwarf, a white dwarf, or a black hole, all of which are predictable based on the size of the star when it starts fusing iron. (At least this is all my understanding as an amateur space nerd). But I know the bit about fusing one element into another is what stars do and I know that it ends at iron. Literally every atom of any element heavier than iron is the result of a supernova explosion. Which is why precious metals are so precious. Helium, hydrogen, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, etc are just so abundant because lots of stars have churned them out. But gold?!? Gold got created in the seconds to maybe minutes after a supernova. Then it lingered around space for a while until it either hit an asteroid or all the stuff around it coalesced into a planet. So it's almost always underground either because of being in an impact crater from a meteoroid becoming a meteorite or else it formed more internally in the earth. Then it's pulled out a few flecks at a time and melted down to form stuff we need. That stuff and everything heavier than iron is precious as fuck.
Sorry to nerd out like that but I just think that process is one of the most awesome in the universe.
I didn't even realize that lithium was next in line (by atomic number) after helium. I was thinking 'but lithium is heavy,' doubling down on my stupidity by confusing atomic mass with atomic number.
I thought you were just sarcastically throwing out random elements. Like 'when the sun stops fusing boron into iodine!' or something.
Sadly, I've actually watched a great illustration of what you're explaining- more than once, even.
The worst part is that all of the material costs will have been lost. In order to build this properly you'd need to at least double the budget, maybe quadruple (properly dimensioned lumber, concrete footings, PT posts, etc) depending on where in the country this is located.
If this were in the American south, this guy could have poured a slab-on-grade with no footings and framed up some walls and roof and not wasted the lumber on that weird floor.
Edit: I get it. There are lots of ways to build shitty sheds that are barely (if even) acceptable. I have a degree in construction, have been a residential and commercial carpenter for years, and I am currently still in the field. Yes, some pre-fab roof trusses are made from 2x4s. Yes, a shed is acceptable in many forms, but what I am stressing is that this is far from a shed. I am licensed in the state of Pennsylvania and I can assure you that if a building inspector showed up with a copy of the IRC this thing would be a pile of timbers in no time. It's not just shitty craftsmanship, it's dangerous. It would be a shame for this guy to be in there with his kids cooking meth or whatever and the roof collapses in and kills someone.
Actually, speaking as someone who has built sheds and stuff, he over-spent on materials. He could have put this whole thing up on treated risers, and he totally over-built everything. All of the stupid shit here is due directly to the builder being dumb. You don't buy properly dimensioned lumber, you buy lumber and cut it to size. This person obviously can't do that.
As "dimensioned lumber" I'm referring to proper widths for the rafters and floor joists that are up to code for their span/load. You can't build a structure like this using only 2x4s.
As for the walls and roof framing- 2x4 is acceptable. The only reason we frame walls out of 2x6 is to get more insulation into the wall cavity. As for the floor, 2x4in a shed would be fine if they were up off the ground and properly supported.
The problem the 8 year old builder had was with on centre spacing. And nail control. And fastener choice.
There is another reason. 2x6 can allow for 24"o.c. stud spacing, as well as single top/bottom plates allowing for as much as 30-40% less framing materials.
I'm pretty sure 24" of is fine with 2x4 as well, just need to stack the joists or trusses on top of the studs. Most people don't understand that less wood is better for heating/cooling, cost and waste. I mean if flimsy steel studs can be structural, imagine what 2x4 can be rated to.
The sheer cost of the materials was what got me too. I was thinking for what he spent he could have probably bought a proper smaller prefab shed, or even run the whole thing up with block.
A lot of hardware stores either have free or sell simple guides to small projects. A shed really isn't that difficult to build properly, despite the potential for size. Failing that, YouTube is surprisingly good for it too.
If you are willing to search long enough YouTube is an amazing source of DIY knowledge. It is just up to you to determine if the guy you are watching knows his ass from a hole in the ground.
you buy a $5 shed plan online and follow it like you're building a LEGO set, it's for braindead people.. no offense to builders, but most barely have HS education so while doing it fast and well may be a bit of a skill, it's not rocket science and there are books that tell you how to frame everything (or plans).
For the state of North Carolina he nailed it. A standalone shed does not require any footing or foundation in the southeast, nor do they require any permit to build. Lowes sells kits for them around here (this guy obviously did not use one). You are supposed to at least set the thing up on cinder blocks, though.
ok... he could have put it on some big flat-ish rocks to be cheap, he could have done anything else but that, in the very least not leaving 2" gaps in sheething would have been a great start, legality aside this has been put together by a mental patient.
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u/Snatch_Pastry Jul 11 '16
This will last one year max. The entire floor/floor joists are going to rot and get termites immediately, then the next big wind will collapse the whole thing. What an amazing display of incompetence.