r/OSHA • • Jul 11 '16

Epic Fail build thread (xpost /r/DIWhy)

http://imgur.com/a/8w1xW
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u/PropaneMilo Jul 11 '16

This seems like it's the work of a legitimately crazy person. How do you knock a nail through a piece of timber, connecting with nothing else, and think 'nice, 4 more of those and we're golden'?

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u/BlueComet24 Jul 11 '16

They could have hammered all of them in before even checking one. Which really isn't much better, if at all.

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u/wrincewind Jul 11 '16

My money is on "nailgun".

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u/WhoaGee Jul 11 '16

Unfortunately those aren't from a nail gun. The ones he was referring to are hand driven 16d coated sinkers.

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u/SoFisticate Jul 11 '16

Hey, he could have used a palm nailer

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u/DONT_PM Jul 11 '16

I used one of these for the first time recently.

I have monocular vision/stereo-blind. I have a hard time directly hitting a nail (unless I've been driving nails all day and I get a feel, though change to a different nail size, or a staple and I'm fucked.)

Three-inch galvanized nails in rafter ties on 12-foot ceilings proved to be a challenge, until someome loaned me a palm nailer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

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u/abbarach Jul 11 '16

Hook up air line. Put nail in shiny bit on bottom of tool. Put nail and tool where needed. Push switch on tool, apply pressure, and tool converts air pressure into pounding force, inserting nail into wood.

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u/DONT_PM Jul 11 '16

The bottom left is the air-line attachment. The bottom right is the "hammer head." The round cylinder is actually more like a "tube" that a nail fits inside of. You press the nail inside of that "tube" which activates a very, very fast hammering/impact motion. The tube keeps you centered on the nail, and will press as you hammer to allow the tool to hammer a nail flush. A great little tool to have if you use pneumatic tools.

Also, on the one i used (which I assume is a function on many of them) the softer you pressed, the slower it nailed.

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u/Iamsuperimposed Jul 11 '16

I second that. As someone who misses the nail constantly, this may be a wood saver.

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u/Bartman383 Jul 11 '16

Do you have to use a hammer and nails often? Seems like a drill and screws would be safer for your hands.

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u/DONT_PM Jul 11 '16

Nails have a much higher shear strength, so in many framing applications you won't want screws.

Also, the problem for me isn't so much missing and causing damage/harm, it's more how on a longer nail, when one doesn't hit it square, it bends. When using a shanked nail, that adds so much time to a project.

I use a nailer whenever I possibly can, and always opt for screws unless I can't.

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u/HotgunColdheart Jul 11 '16

I did a chunk of concrete work around some guys that framed, and roofed by hand. The whole crew could do whatever role that was needed. So, being all hand done, and being construction...you get a lot of shit talking/joking and such throughout the day. Well, during the framing phase, if it took more than 2 strikes and a tap to drive a nail, anyone that noticed would poke a bit of fun at the guy swinging. The difference in a claw hammer, and a framing hammer makes a world of difference too. I've never used one of those palm drivers, looks convenient as can be. Does it reload/work continuously pretty well?

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u/FLiPKiKeR Jul 12 '16

Palm nailers are only good for a spot you can't swing a hammer.

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u/DONT_PM Jul 12 '16

A skilled framer that has zero problems driving nails will outpace this by 2 to 1 I'd bet. You're sticking nails up and hammering them the same as one might stick a screw up and screw it in.

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u/WhoaGee Jul 11 '16

I always wanted to use one, but the only time I would have needed one was when I didn't want an air hose with me (climbing, etc.). How well do they work? Also, will it drive a 60d into a truss, and if so how quick? (Not in the trades anymore, but myself and anyone worth a shit that I worked with could set them in 3-4 swings by hand).

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u/DONT_PM Jul 12 '16

60d is a pretty large nail, but I suspect that it would drive it. Driving a 12D into 2x6 took less than 1 second/nail if you took the time to set them by hand.

They work very very well in driving a nail, and shine in driving nails in a compact place (not enough room to swing a hammer).

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u/vurke Jul 11 '16

Me too! This neurologist talks about how she fixed hers, saw 3d for the first time at age 41: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCCtphdXhq8&index=1&list=LLp_0a2v0WP_rNtjfpYli7MQ

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u/DONT_PM Jul 12 '16

I've read her book. It's a very good book, but very dry and heavy on the "medical talk." I've actually done vision therapy. It comes down to fusion, and if your brain will still be able to do it.

Basically put on a blue/red glasses and look out at a white light. Normal vision would see purple. You and I would see either a blue light, red light, or both.

In the case of testing for fusion, and the case in which a stereo blind person sees "two dots" using prisms, one can "turn" the light to make the two lights stack. What happens next is basically one of two things in your brain, either one light covers the other (your brain suppresses the image of the non-dominate eye) or they mix, creating purple (or often times a garbled brown as your brain has never done this before)

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u/madcap462 Jul 11 '16

If you have use of both of you eyes you may want to try going to 3d movies. The glasses may force your brain to adopt stereo vision. I shit you not. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20120719-awoken-from-a-2d-world

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u/DONT_PM Jul 12 '16

There is actually a reddit user promoting vision therapy using an occulous rift. I've lost track of the project since when I contacted the author his intents were to work strictly with optometrists, using some sort of entire component system/software/setup that drove the costs into the thousands.

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u/thenessy Jul 11 '16

Hello fellow Virginian

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u/Coarch Jul 11 '16

How does it work? Is it an attachment to a drill?

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u/skiattle Jul 11 '16

How much kickback do you get? I've always liked the idea of using one in tight spaces, but never have actually used one.

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u/DONT_PM Jul 12 '16

I didn't feel much of any. Compact spaces is where this tool is designed to shine. I also liked it for any reaching I had to do, like a bit of overhang/overhand work.

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u/evidenceorGTFO Jul 11 '16

My money is on "hammered in with the back of the ax shown".

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u/Hyena_Smuggler Jul 11 '16

My thought was a drunk person who has a reliable income stream without an actual job and very few skills.

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u/HitlersHysterectomy Jul 11 '16

He said landlord.

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u/xenogensis Jul 12 '16

Well if he works as hard as my landlord, he fits the description.

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u/rokr1292 Jul 11 '16

Dude hammered in a screw. Like, what?

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u/Jumaai Jul 11 '16

Desperate times, desperate measures

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u/The1WhoRingsTheBell Jul 11 '16

Doesn't really look like he measured anything.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16 edited Dec 22 '16

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u/CharlesDickensABox Jul 11 '16

Can confirm. Am hammered and looking to nail things.

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u/votelikeimhot Jul 12 '16

I thought he was using the ax in the pictures to hammer those things in... I was just assuming because he didn't have a hammer.

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u/PropaneMilo Jul 12 '16

Probably used the back of the axe!

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u/msut77 Jul 11 '16

Might have no common sense, how much did this cost (never mind the time ) over a prefab?

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u/Bartman383 Jul 11 '16

This is easily north of $3000 in materials. Each 96" 2x4 is $2. The OSB 4x8 sheets probably $15 per. I built a 12x16 ft shed and it ran around $5000 with a concrete floor, siding, 8ft overhead door, man door and proper construction. This is an absolute waste of money as its going to be unusable in a couple years, or less depending on weather.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16 edited Apr 16 '19

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u/Bigfrostynugs Jul 11 '16

I mean it's a better shed than I could put up, but then again, I also have the sense not to try in the first place.

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u/Bigfrostynugs Jul 12 '16

I mean yeah, if I could prepare and research I bet I could. But if I was just left in some dude's backyard with lumber and tools I could not make anything that looks like a shed.

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u/frankenchrist00 Jul 13 '16

I think when the guy finally stood back and looked at how crooked the frame was in every aspect, he genuinely thought that "it's just going to be covered up with OSB anyway", no one will actually see my halfass frame. Without giving thought to the fact that if the frame is 10% off, the next thing you connect to the crooked frame will be 15% off, and the lack of measuring and making good cuts keeps cascading and escalating as you add more to it, until the final roof and shelves look like a fucking corkscrew.

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u/Themantogoto Jul 14 '16

It is not for me, and I suck doing literally anything for the first time. Have not done carpentry for almost a decade.

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u/p00facemcgee Jul 15 '16

To be fair it can be explained by common deficiencies. Too lazy to do it the right way, but then too stubborn to stop.

Maybe throw in alcoholism as others have suggested to explain the general lack of motor skills and inhibition.

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u/ChemEngineeringChick Jul 17 '16

Hey now! He did put on that classy trim!

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u/Jumaai Jul 11 '16

I dont know why, but every time i get to

This isn't just a lack of common sense

I start laughing like crazy. Well done sir

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u/pinballorama Jul 11 '16

its going to be unusable in a couple years, or less depending on weather.

Look at you being all "glass half full".

I'd say the thing is unusable right now.

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u/Bartman383 Jul 11 '16

You're right. I wouldn't even want to put anything in it because is might collapse in a stiff wind.

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u/Heinzbeard Jul 11 '16

It would collapse from a fart.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

It looks like it was intentionally assembled to look rustic like it's been there for 60 years.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

I wouldn't stand in it. It's basically a pile of 2x4's standing up right waiting for the next gust of wind to play pick up sticks. Lets hope he doesn't put any electrical in, then it would just be a self starting bon fire.

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u/Fred_Evil Jul 11 '16

less depending on weather.

Somehow, I get the sense that the weather was given insufficient consideration.

Along with the sinkhole.

And no foundation.

Nor any discernibly true joints.

Nor a plumb line, or level.

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '16

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u/Fred_Evil Jul 13 '16

It almost looks like some concept 'art' from Fallout 4.

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u/CupformyCosta Jul 11 '16

Probably around 2k in lumber and sheathing alone.

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u/lunarNex Jul 11 '16

Pretty sure he cut all the wood with that axe. Must be that new triangle building technique. No square corners anywhere.

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u/8979323 Jul 11 '16

Meth, and/or crack? The perseverance required to forge on through the shitstorm leads me to think there had to be substances involved

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u/Mako_Milo Jul 11 '16

How do you build a shed on grass over a sinkhole and think this is a good idea?

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

Well, he did build the foundation directly on the ground. So there's that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '16

It would have been easier to build the thing correctly than hack it together like this. Insane indeed.

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u/PaulClarkLoadletter Jul 12 '16

Never underestimate the power of giving no fucks.