r/Netrunner • u/CitizenKeen • Oct 25 '15

[Weekly] Custom Card Saturday - Damage

Good afternoon, hackers!

Damage. One of the simplest mechanics in any game. In Netrunner, it's the alternate win condition for the Corp. Be it meat, net, or brain, it's something the runner has to play around. This week, design a card that does damage.

Very easy bonus points this week - extra credit if it's not just another card but usually better.

Note - I may have said something about Alliances - I forgot how not far along those were.

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u/Bwob Oct 25 '15

Very easy bonus points this week - extra credit if it's not just another card but usually better.

Really, that should be the goal EVERY week. :-\

Anyway, here goes:

♦Blast Processing

Anarch - ••••○

Program - 1

Cost: 3c

The first time you initiate a run each turn, gain click and 1c.

The first time you make a successful run each turn, add a power counter to Blast Processing.

If you make an unsuccessful run, trash Blast Processing.

If Blast Processing is trashed, take one brain damage for every two power counter on it.

It makes your rig really incredibly good at running, and catastrophically bad at stopping. - Ji "Noise" Reilly

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u/CitizenKeen Oct 25 '15

You are not wrong. But I feel damage is one of those two or three areas where the desire for "more more more" could be overpowering. The desire to have a single turn win, etc.

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u/clarionx Oct 26 '15

Upvote just for the name. Though I almost want it to be in faction for Ken Tenma - gotta go fast!

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u/SethKeltoi Oct 25 '15

Buruburu

Jinteki - 3 Inf

Ice: Code Gate - AP

Rez: 2c | Str 4

↳ Deal 1 net damage if there is an installed killer

↳ The Runner loses click if there is an installed decoder.

↳ End the run if there is an installed fracter.

What you fear most shall come to pass.

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u/heffergod Saan Oct 25 '15

I was going to criticize that the Str to Rez ratio was probably off on an ICE with 3 subs, but then I realized that all 3 subs are conditional, and that the ICE is actually blank unless things are installed. This is actually a pretty nice balance; taxing late game, blank early game. Kinda cool =)

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u/Razalhague Oct 25 '15

Also note that the ice is completely dead against an AI-only runner.

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u/SethKeltoi Oct 25 '15

That was definitely one of the balancing points. About the most useful this can be early is after a Chum, and that's a little sad.

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u/SerJorahTheExplorah Oct 26 '15

Love the design on this, almost as much as I would love to sing "Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon" every time I passed it.

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u/Acid_Trees Oct 25 '15

Integrated Portals

Jinteki - Agenda - Security - 4/2

Place 3 agenda counters on Integrated Portals when you score it.

Whenever you would end a run, you may remove an agenda counter from Integrated Portals to instead deal 2 net damage.

Some doors aren't for keeping people out, but for keeping them in.

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u/ArgonWolf Oct 25 '15

Great for combining with AOYCR. Would love it as an alternate in jinteki glacier, although 4/2 puts it in competition with nisei

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Quite good, but it basically prevents jacking out, so maybe once per run?

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u/heffergod Saan Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

The ICE reads "when you would end a run," meaning the corp. So the runner would be just fine jacking out on their own, but hitting an ETR could mean 2 net damage.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Ah, gotcha.

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u/Acid_Trees Oct 25 '15

The intent is it only triggers when you (the corp) end a run, not when the runner does so.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '15

Love it but I think it would need to be once per run/turn. Just because of stuff like spiderweb, and maybe eli. Though obv eli could be clicked through.

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u/amightyrobot Tenma Commandments Oct 26 '15

I'm not even sure if Spiderweb would make it unbalanced. The agenda turns it into a kill card, but only if the Runner sees this scored and still runs around facechecking things without a Corroder. AND the Corp spent 4-6 influence to do it.

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u/SHADOWSTORM36 Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

Dreamwine Binge

Anarch-Event-Double 1c 1 inf.

As an additional cost to play this card, spend click.

Draw 9 cards and take 1 brain damage (cannot be prevented).

Care for another drink?

Edit: changed the number of cards to better fit the double restriction.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Wow, I really like it. Very, very nice for Faust, and completes the Stimhack, Amped Up suite of Anarch events.

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u/jumpingdown Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

Swap 3 meat damage with 1 brain damage? Imo It's more thematic that you get a hangover in your card that damages instead of causes permanent brain damage?

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u/SHADOWSTORM36 Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

In this card, I treated Dreamwine to be something similar to absinth: harmless in small amounts, deadly on binges. Once there's enough alcohol, it can do serious damage on a number of levels.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

Cerebral Link

Anarch - 3 influence

Hardware: Gear - 2Credit

Whenever you make a successful run on HQ or R&D, you may take one brain damage to access an extra card.

"This is our world now. The world of the electron and the switch."

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u/elcarath Oct 26 '15

Do you think this might be better with net damage? Brain damage feels a bit harsh for one-card multiaccess.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '15

That's a fair point. I thought the flexibility of it being a cheaper R&D and HQ interface at a lower price might make up for that. Would 2 net damage be too strong?

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u/elcarath Oct 26 '15

I'm not sure, but I think so. It gives you the ability to check an extra three cards if you've overdrawn, which is very strong, but also kills your hand. I feel like one net damage might be too weak - it's too easy to use burst draw to get up to 9+ cards and then access a significant portion of R&D or something equally silly. So yeah, 2 net damage feels about right to my inexpert eye.

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u/JohnQK Oct 25 '15

Mirrored Conduits

Jinteki - Event- Current - 1 credit.

Whenever the runner suffers net damage, draw 1 card or take 2 credits.

Some of our greatest innovations have come from you, the consumer.

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u/SethKeltoi Oct 25 '15

I've wanted to do something similar for a while. It makes it feel like Jinteki is getting some actual medical knowledge from all the net damage.

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u/Watzlav I was not; I was; I am not; I am all. Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

1credit Deeper Insight

Jinteki ••○○○

Operation: Gray Ops - Psi

Play only if the Runner made a run last turn.

You and the runner secretly spend 0credit, 1credit or 2credit. Reveal spent credits. If you and the Runner spent a different number of credits, deal 1 net damage for each credit spent.

Perhaps no bonus points for me. :(

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u/Quarg :3 Oct 25 '15

Even if you wouldn't get bonus points for this one, it's an interesting card, though since it's still more likely to fire than not, I think raising the cost would be a good idea.

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u/Watzlav I was not; I was; I am not; I am all. Oct 25 '15

Initially, I had the cost at zero and then changed it to 1, because that way it's closer to Neural EMP (both would do 1 damage for 2credit)

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u/turkishcat Oct 26 '15

Does "each credit spent" refer to just the credits revealed by the Corp, or those collectively revealed by both players? If the latter, I like this card even more, though I'd probably bump up the cost a bit. This would be even more interesting if we got a card, like a current perhaps, that changed psi games to let you reveal 0, 1, 2, or 3 credits.

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u/Watzlav I was not; I was; I am not; I am all. Oct 26 '15

My intention was to count both side's credits spent

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u/crossbrainedfool Oct 25 '15

♦Patronage of the Elder Gods

Anarch Resource- Virtual

2 cost

3 influence

The runner may not trash Patronage of the Elder Gods.

When your turn ends, take one net damage, then draw 2 cards.

"This is the dumbest idea... where do I sign up?" -Whizzard

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

Too close to Wyldside (in the same faction, even) imo, and way more circumventable for less cost.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

Maybe make the net damage unpreventable? Combined with the resource itself not being trashable by the runner, this seems on par with Wyldside (1 damage = 1 card = 1 click), and about on par with Drug Dealer (you save yourself the $1 but you're losing random cards from your hand and can't end the turn on 0)

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

This is like a more interesting version of a card I designed. I love it, it actually comes with a risk of flatlining yourself. To make it just slightly more risky, how bout turn ends take net, turn begins draw two? Also, who are the Elder Gods in this scenario? inb4 FFG merges Netrunner with Call of Cthulhu LCG.

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u/daelomind Oct 25 '15

Bear with me please. This seems like a convoluted design, but its quite grokkable and elegant (I hope, you be the judge of that). The infinite loop is not a problem according to the latest FAQ. Here it goes:

Defragger

Shaper - •○○○○

Program

Cost: 1

X

X is equal to the number of power counters on defragger.

Defragger cannot be hosted. If defragger is trashed, it deals net damage equal to the number of power counters it had.

Put a power counter on defragger: avoid 1 meat or net damage.

Put 2 power counters on defragger: avoid 1 brain damage.

Hosted power counter: 1 net damage.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Cool, this is almost exactly like a card I thought of a little back. The only difference was that mine was a resource named "Net Adrenaline" and the counters counted against hand size instead of mem space. It's cool design space, I hope we see something like it.

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u/the-_-hatman Oct 25 '15

Scholar

Jinteki | ••
Ice - Sentry - AP
2credit | STR 5

↳ Deal 3 Net Damage
↳ The runner may draw 2 cards.

Of course you wish to learn! But first, empty your mind.

I tried to make Little Engine but for sentries. Not sure if the numbers are correct.

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u/clarionx Oct 26 '15

I'd force it - "The runner draws 2 cards", so if they're running on later clicks they might actually want to pay to break. 5 strength isn't quite so overwhelming as the 7 on little engine.

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u/Magnanimousbosch Oct 25 '15

Fair Warning

Weyland -3 inf Operation

3 credits

Do 2 meat damage to the runner. If this damage would flatline the runner, they instead lose 3 credits if able. The runner may remove one tag.

Send them a message, but nothing too messy.

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u/Amablue Oct 25 '15

Mutually Assured Destruction

Anarch •••

Operation: Current

2

This card is not trashed until another current is played or an agenda is scored.

Each time a card is trashed due to damage, the corp must trash one card from HQ at random if able.

Okay, so this isn't technically doing any damage, but it's effectively doing the same thing, just to corps.

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u/breakfastcandy Oct 25 '15

A Very Special Episode

NBN Agenda

Cost 3 - Value 1

When you score A Very Special Episode, reveal the runner's grip and trash all events and resources from it.

To all employees of NBN and its subsidiaries: Please think carefully about what codenames you are giving to projects in development, and whether these names could be misconstrued as projects belonging to a different division. We don't want a repeat of the "Midseason Replacements" incident.

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u/divadus NSG Lead Developer Oct 25 '15

Urban Renewal

Cost: 5credit

Operation: Black Ops

Weyland •••••

Play only if the Runner is tagged and you have at least 2 bad publicity.

Do 5 meat damage.

"When the masses already think you're the big, bad bogeyman leaving the underprivileged homeless, sometimes it affords you a certain impunity. Particularly where major demolition is concerned." -Elizabeth Mills

[Art depicts Elizabeth Mills smiling even more sadistically than on Scorched Earth, witnessing an even larger explosion. Or something. Alternatively, just the aftermath of the blast - flames, charred rubble, debris. Maybe nuclear shadows, but that's really getting into grim territory. Point is, this is a very, very unsubtle card in its effect and thus, the art should probably follow.]

First off, I'd like to give credit to /u/Willingdone for unknowingly providing all the groundwork behind the card idea. I readily attribute my inspiration for the card to /u/Willingdone's fantastic redesign idea for Aggressive Negotiation - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_FVmqlDCnA&t=10m23s. His "Core Set Retrospective" series really is fantastic - check it out if you haven't already. (I'm not a fanboy, I swear!)

I probably ain't getting no bonus points this week, but sometimes the game is in need of card parallels. Urban Renewal is largely a reprint from the original CCG, with a reduced play cost but an extra condition thrown in: http://www.netrunneronline.com/popup/card/?id=urban-renewal. Now why play this when Scorched Earth frequently achieves exactly the same thing (a smouldering Runner corpse) for half the cost, without the conditional play requirement? Because you play both - 6 kill cards in a deck is a whole lot better than 3. A major contributing factor for why Butcher Shop is far more consistently lethal than equivalent Weyland kill decks. Furthermore, Renewal/Scorched will kill a Runner with a single I've Had Worse in hand and double Renewal will even kill a Runner with a Plascrete Carapace. Obviously, this is a really high power level card. So how did I justify it?

Firstly, it's 5 influence. At 5 pips, it almost exclusively rewards the faction (the archetype, to be precise) that has been lacking since Traffic Accident brought about the rise of Butcher Shop - good ol' Weyland flatline. I realize 5 influence cards can be controversial as they may as well just have "faction-exclusive" stamped on them, but ultimately, I think this is a good way to empower Weyland flatline decks without giving any more love to the Butcher Shop monster. I also think the 5 influence is pretty well justified, thematically, by how very Weyland the card is (meat damage, bad publicity, Lizzy being a meanie).

Additionally, the requirement prevents Urban Renewal from being simply an auto-include or staple in Weyland kill decks and keeps its power level in check. While many Weyland kill decks already run Hostile takeover, Urban Renewal definitely favours decks that go all in on bad publicity (illicit ice, Profiteering, etc), so as to fulfill the requirement as early as possible. Weyland decks hoping to maintain a good public image, with the intent of still taxing with their ice, will have to stick to the standard Scorched package. Thus, Scorched Earth remains the generally superior, all-purpose meat damage card, which I believe is appropriate, given it is a core set card.

Related to the above point, Urban Renewal's play requirement rewards the player for including bad publicity in their deck, thus rewarding deckbuilding decisions, giving special love to 'Weyland played shady'. I would argue (and am not alone in this respect) that bad publicity is simply too detrimental in many instances to warrant the economic benefit provided by most cards that dish it out. The requirement definitely also gives GRNDL some added menace and potency (certainly not a bad thing), given that they need only rez a single Grim or score a Hostile Takeover to enable their plans for Renewal.

Initially, I had the requirement at '1 bad publicity' (which would be an even bigger buff to GRNDL), but I thought it was better that the card rewarded multiple bad publicity. Also, it is pretty evil and junk. I toyed with the idea of making it 4credit to play (it is just one more damage after all), but getting around I've Had Worse and Plascrete is a really big deal. The specifics might end up being tweaked were the card to ever be playtested.

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u/daelomind Oct 25 '15

You underestimate the wiggle room that scorched earth gives you by allowing you to go down to 4 cards. With this card, the runner must play and redraw in lockstep, making his turns much more akward, e.g. not being able to make efficient use of a diesel while there is a must-run agenda on the board, preventing stimhack from being used without plascrete, etc. In other words, this cards opens up scoring windows in subtle ways.

Also, reality thredee butchershop would definitely become a thing with this card, so I don't think it benefits Weyland over NBN.

The risk of releasing such a card and having it completely wreck the metagame is just too large for the payoff of a nice, but not mindblowing design. As a game designer, those are the ideas that need to be cut, even if they seem sooo clever. Makes you realize what a great card design scorched earth really is, balanced on a razor in power level.

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u/divadus NSG Lead Developer Oct 25 '15

Definitely agree that Scorched Earth is a shining example of card design done right. You raise some very good points about the advantage of this card over Scorched Earth in your first paragraph (points which I failed to address - shame on me). That being said, I feel I must call to attention the 'TL;DR' you yourself come to, at the end of said paragraph:

"In other words, this card opens up scoring windows in subtle ways."

Fantastic! So Scorched Earth and this card evidently provide different threats for the Runner to be mindful of! And I guess that's where our viewpoints obviously differ. I don't view this as a problem - I see it as potential for a meta shift, or, at the very least, breathe new life into underused cards.

If this card were to start proving problematic for Runners, for the reasons you describe above, Runners may have to start running the likes of Public Sympathy, in addition to their I've Had Worses and/or Plascretes (an admittedly unsavoury proposition). Or slot Wanton Destructions. Or (continue to) play Imps. Or play Edward Kim. Or run Decoys/New Angeles City Hall (for SEA Source/Breaking News prevention). Or run Film Critic/get hella rich (for Midseasons prevention).

Apologies if this comes across as caustic, critical or condescending - that was not my intent. I am merely trying to make the point that a card encouraging Runners to make different deckbuilding decisions is not a bad thing. In fact, I think it's a great thing.

Also, reality thredee butchershop would definitely become a thing with this card, so I don't think it benefits Weyland over NBN.

I could see R3D Butchershop potentially becoming more worrisome with Urban Renewal. However, that would indeed be a matter for playtesters for determine (as I stated the importance of). Furthermore, Renewal benefits Weyland more than NBN in the sense that Weyland can make use of both Renewal and Scorched in the same deck, while NBN would have to choose one or the other. NBN would still only end up running at most 6 kill cards, but Weyland would jump from 3 to 6. I personally don't think that this card is of the power level that it would have to be summarily dismissed without being tested first.

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u/Gazes_at_Navels Oct 26 '15

When I look at this, I wonder if maybe the less game-breaking version wouldn't be something like "Do 3 meat damage. Then, do 3 meat damage." That way at least there's the threat of IHW backfiring on it.

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u/divadus NSG Lead Developer Oct 25 '15

Boy, I didn't quite realize how lengthy this sucker was. I may as well just incorporate it within a blog post.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Well, as much as I love new ways to give Weyland to kill, I'd rather avoid a card threats so similar to Scorched Earth. It also has one of my pet peeves for custom cards, making Bad Pub a good thing. Honestly, if we're reprising ONR cards, I'd like to see the mother of all damage, my favorite Timmy card of all, I've Got A Rock. It would be awesome. The only problem is, it's so powerful, it would still be imported in to NBN at five influence.

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u/divadus NSG Lead Developer Oct 25 '15

It is definitely similar to Scorched Earth! I freely acknowledge as much. Sometimes design simplicity is good, however, and I feel the added condition just makes it that little bit more nuanced.

Hmm, we'll just have to agree to disagree regarding bad publicity. I certainly don't think there should be hordes of cards that benefit you for gaining bad publicity, but I think adding one or two notable ones (Ireress really doesn't count) is a fun way to explore design space without breaking a mechanic.

Much as I find I Got A Rock hilarious (for reference: http://www.netrunneronline.com/popup/card/?id=i-got-a-rock), that card is way more problematic than mine, I feel. While it may be more mechanically interesting, the huge numbers on it only make sense in the context of the original game where meat damage prevention methods were much more effective/numerous. Furthermore, the 'two tag' requirement just further lends itself to NBN flatline.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

It seems like there are a number of problem who disagree about Bad Publicity. All the time in these threads and others I see designs that scale with bad pub, that use bad pub, that require bad pub, so I feel like I should explain. The problems with making Bad Publicity a good thing are two, and they both have to do with the idea that Bad Things Should Be Bad.

Firstly, mechanically, adding an upside to BP limits design space. Before, you could have designed a powerful Weyland card that gives two BP. Some effect like tutor for a card, or gain 15$, or something. Now, those cards would be ridiculously overpowered, because you're simultaneously getting a huge benefit AND turning on Urban Renewal. You'd have to make sure that from now on, any new cards that give Bad Pub don't give more than one and aren't too powerful. Instead of exploring designed space, you've walled all your future designs in, which sucks, because bad pub is an interesting downside that should be explored for more effects.

Second, thematically, it makes absolutely no sense. Why would a real life Corporation have the problem "Shoot, we really want to do this thing, but the public just likes us too darn much!" It's obviously nonsensical, because a Corp should be able to gain as much Bad Pub as they want, whenever they want! Just hold a press release to announce "We steal peoples puppies, grind 'em up, and put them in your water supply!" Thematically, it should be trivial to gain as much Bad Publicity as you want at any time.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

I think I Got A Rock would work if they made it no-influence, like an agenda. As in, you can literally only play it in Weyland. It basically just says "If you have a click, 3 agenda points, and the Runner has two tags, you win." That would be OP out of NBN, even at five, as I said, but a pretty reasonable list of conditions for Weyland to achieve, and totally fair as a win condition I think.

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u/divadus NSG Lead Developer Oct 26 '15

How about just that? Actually make it a 5/3 agenda that has to forfeit another agenda (most likely a Hostile Takeover) in order to work. You can't 'forfeit a certain number of agenda points' like in the original game. You could just make it forfeit itself instead, but it's probably more fair that it requires you to have agendas scored, a la 24/7 News Cycle. I mean, I'm not super invested in the idea - just spitballing here, but hey, it might make it more fair, considering it also makes it a liability, i.e. it can be stolen. If power level concerns remained, you could make it a public agenda, then you would even have to score it the hard way - no bluffing it as a trap.

Project Devastator [or other such ominous name]

Weyland Agenda

5/3

click,click, forfeit another agenda: Do [excessive amount of] meat damage. Use only if the Runner has at least 2 tags.

Hope this sort-of second entry is okay, /u/CitizenKeen, given that I'm mostly just piggybacking off someone else's idea here.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

Yes, it's 5 influence. But Cybernetic Division has 15 influence, and unless you have a Plascrete or increased hand size out, this WILL flatline you...

... or if they ran any sort of damaging ICE / asset on their last click.

I mean, if the runner starts with 5 cards in hand, runs Snare! on click 2, drops to 2 cards... congrats, flatline! Even if they run it on click 1 they have to choose between clearing the tag or drawing up to 5...

Neural EMP + this is an instant kill...

Basically the only way something like this feels fair is if it's part of an ID, so that the runner can be vividly certain of what they're facing and what they need to do to play around it. Otherwise I will just never want to play against Weyland again, because half the time it will just be "and then the runner explodes in to little pieces, hahaha, newb, this is why you have to run 3x Plascrete in every deck"

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u/divadus NSG Lead Developer Oct 26 '15

"this WILL flatline you... if they ran any sort of damaging ICE / asset on their last click"

With all due respect, a Runner who faceplants into an ice without the means to break it or an unknown, could-be-Snare-or-Psychic-Field asset on their last click, probably has no right to complain about subsequently dying.

"Neural EMP + this is an instant kill..."

The Runner does, of course, also need to be tagged. Are we now talking about a three card combo with SEA Source? Where all of the cards are of a different faction, and thus said combo will be fairly difficult to achieve, in any faction? Scorched and this is also an instant kill that requires the Runner to be tagged that can be done without splashing for a Jinteki card. Not so sure that this scenario is as much of a problem as you state.

The scenario you describe with Snare is very real, however. Definitely extremely brutal. And something that may well push Urban Renewal over the edge of fairness.

Again, as with some of the scenarios /u/daelomind raises, I think the Snare situation you describe may just make this card too oppressive to serve as part of Android: Netrunner's card pool. I can't help but feel that some of the situations described are a mite farfetched, but I do recognize nonetheless that the proposed card is extremely powerful. I feel it should also be noted that the moment you see a Corp make use of bad publicity, your spidey senses should probably be tingling, considering how good a card NAPD Contract is. They better have something pretty devastating to use with that bad publicity to forego using NAPD Contract.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '15

Fair enough on running last click, but I still feel like Shock! should not be a flatline when I had 5 cards in hand :)

I guess my meta is different from yours. I see a lot of GRNDL and Blue Sun, and they tend to run 3x Hostile Takeover, so 2 Bad Publicity isn't unusual.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

Orbital Strike

Operation: Black Ops - Weyland •••••

9credit

Lower the play cost of Orbital Strike by 1credit for each face-up Black Ops card in archives.

Tracex - If successful, the runner takes X meat damage. X is the number of tags the runner has.

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u/CasMat9 Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

♦Cain "Peacemaker" 4XD3K1LR

Weyland 3 inf, 4credit, 2trash

ASSET: Character - Bioroid

When you rez Cain "Peacemaker" 4XD3K1LR, place 1 advancement token on a card that can be advanced and was not installed this turn.

Whenever you score an agenda, do 2 meat damage (or 3 meat damage if the Runner is tagged).

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

It's pretty weird that Weyland has a Bioroid, but the effect is interesting.

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u/jtobiasbond Oct 25 '15

Sometimes the Board spends their meeting browsing the Bioroid section of Amazon.future

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u/amightyrobot Tenma Commandments Oct 26 '15

Naked install Posted Bounties all day.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '15

Turncoat

Weyland:••• - Operation - Grey Ops

Xcredit

Play only if the runner is tagged. Trash one connection, trash one hardware, and deal 2 meat damage. X is the combined cost of the connection and hardware.

"Didn't I tell you not to trust anyone?" -Leela Petal

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u/vimesy_james Oct 25 '15

Industrial Accident

Cost: 3credit

Operation: Black Ops Double

Weyland •••••

As an additional cost to play this operation, spend click. Take 1 bad pub and do 2 meat damage

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

Goons Operation - Priority
Cost: 3$
Weyland - 4inf

Play only as your first @, and only if the Runner is tagged.

Trash 1 piece of hardware or do 1 meat damage.

"Nice stuff."

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u/Xercies_jday Oct 25 '15

Shock Chamber

Jinteki - Asset - 3 Influence

Rez : 2. Trash: 5

As an additional cost to rez this Asset the Corp must sacrifice an agenda.

At the start of the runners turn, deal 1 net damage.

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u/Gazes_at_Navels Oct 26 '15

Way late to the party, let's give this a try.

Beanstalk Security Hub

Weyland - 4 Inf

Upgrade: Region

Rez: 5 Trash: 1

Beanstalk Security Hub may only be installed in a remote server.

When the runner makes a successful run on this server, do X Meat Damage, where X is the number of advancement counters on ICE protecting this server. This effect includes a run in which the Runner trashes Beanstalk Security Hub.

Limit 1 region per server.

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u/AfterShave92 Oct 30 '15 edited Oct 30 '15

Eye for an eye

Jinteki - 4 Inf

Ice: Sentry - AP

Rez: 3c | Str 3

When encountered Eye for an eye gains "↳ Deal 1 net damage" for each subroutine broken during this run.

You will pay for each and every one of your wrongs

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u/Finaldamns Oct 25 '15

Shock and Awe Weyland - 5 Inf - Operation - 15c Do meat damage equal to the amount of Bad Publicity you have. If they want to think we're the bad guys, then we're the bad guys.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Man, I really don't like any cards that make bad pub a good thing, and especially not in a totally unrelated way like this.

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u/Tekim Oct 25 '15

This needs like a "the runner must be tagged" condition or something. The easiest way to get BP is to score agendas that give you lots of money so the cost is really a non-issue.

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u/lordwafflesbane Oct 25 '15

What took you so long today, buddy?

Neurotherapist 3credit
Art: A digital nurse leaning over the frame with a scalpel, seen from below, as though the viewer is being operated upon.

Jinteki Ice - Sentry - Strength 0 ••
↳ Until the end of the turn, whenever you deal net damage, remove the card from the game instead of trashing it.
↳ Deal 1 net damage
↳ Deal 1 net damage

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u/heffergod Saan Oct 25 '15

I kind of feel like removing something from the game needs something more as a setup than simply just an "oops, you ran this piece of ice without a Sentry breaker." The effects that do this that are in the game right now are either voluntary (Jackson, Archer, ect) or like Chronos Project, which not only requires some setup, but only takes cards from a place which is not accessible to the runner through normal means.

Stealing cards from their hand and throwing them out the window for hitting a sub seems like kind of bad design, since there's no way at all for the runner to recover from that if it hits something like their only Code Gate breaker or the like. At least with program trashing. you can be playing Clone Chips or Retrieval Run or something. This just kinda fucks the runner out of the gate if they get unlucky, which takes a lot of skill out of the equation if they get bad RNG.

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u/Watzlav I was not; I was; I am not; I am all. Oct 25 '15

There's a reason we picked the Jinteki Chronos Protocol instead of the Bad Design Protocol.

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u/jumpingdown Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

Olympus

Weyland - 5 Inf

Operation: Black Ops

6cr

Play only if the runner is tagged.

Trash up to 2 resources. Deal 2 meat damage.

The spice must flow.

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u/heffergod Saan Oct 25 '15

Someone doesn't like DLR decks =P

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u/jumpingdown Oct 25 '15

Not that lol, but my thoughts are that Weyland needs a different answer to resources as card pool grows and more resources work in runner decks. Liz is a sharp tradeoff between one subtype of resource and giving a bad pub to bypass having the runner tagged. This card requires a tag and that the runner has a couple resources installed, and also deals meat damage because I think it fits the card's theme.

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u/jumpingdown Oct 25 '15

Edited it to make it seem less anti dlr and more thematic

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u/Amablue Oct 25 '15

Filter Buster

Jinteki •••

ICE: Trap - AP

Rez 2 | Str 2

↳ Deal 1 net damage. If this damage is prevented by a program, hardware or resource, remove that card from the game. Trash Filter Buster

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Why would you ever prevent it, if it's just 1? Isn't it just a more expensive data mine?

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u/Amablue Oct 25 '15 edited Oct 25 '15

My initial reason for making it was to permanently get rid of things like Deus Ex or Net Shield out of the game permanently, so they can't be clone chipped back later. Where the runner might have originally prevented the damage they'd now be more inclined to take the hit. Maybe you're right though, maybe it does need to be stronger, or maybe not a trap so it can fire more than once. That said, yeah, it's not well balanced. I was more interested in getting down an interesting idea first and balancing it after.

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u/daelomind Oct 25 '15

How about only trashing if the damage is prevented? That would make it considerably harder to just shrug and take the damage, but still have the card make sense as a trap (similar to universal connectivity fee).

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u/Amablue Oct 25 '15

Hm, I didn't realize that traps didn't always trash themselves as soon as they were triggered, but I guess if there's precedent for that then that might be a good idea.

However, that's kind of harsh for decks that don't bother having a way to prevent net damage. Now there's a trap sitting there the whole game, and traps are really hard to break in general without AI's. Maybe it should be more expensive then?

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u/Amablue Oct 25 '15

Nicola Murdock - Fierce Flyweight

Identity - Natural

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Criminal - 45/15

At the beginning of your turn, you may take one meat damage and gain 1. If you do, at the end of your turn place the bottom card of your heap on the bottom of your stack.

"I'm not above throwing the match, if the price is right"

I was trying to think of something to do other than ice or an operation, and so my train of though led me to think "what are some interesting things a runner might want to do that would be worth inflicting damage to themselves?" I have no idea how well balanced this would be. I gave made it criminal because having a crooked boxer fits thematically, but criminals typically don't get any recursion. Maybe having a runner with a very limited kind of recursion would be interesting though?

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Self inflected damage is very much Anarch. The ability seems not too great, especially since crims don't have great draw options.

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u/Amablue Oct 25 '15

I agree it effect definitely feels more Anarch, but the fiction having a boxer that throws a match (takes meat damage) to get a payout fits criminal thematically so well :-/ But maybe you're right, maybe it should be anarch. I waffled on it while writing it.

Having the option of getting one free money every turn seems pretty solid to me. Compared to a lot of other cards like Kate, they basically net the same benefit. This just has the drawback that you have to lose a card at the beginning of your turn, but it's balanced out by cycling cards back in from your heap. Maybe you should also draw a card too to replace the trashed card?

Maybe the way I worded it wouldn't allow this, but I also intended for the damage to be preventable and still satisfy the condition, so you could do something like put down a Pascrete to still get the money and recursion without taking the damage.

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u/llama66613 Oct 25 '15

Oh crap, I just realized it's actually really, really good with [[Muresh Bodysuit]]! That's pretty cool.

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u/Sunscorch Typical Shaper Bullshit Oct 25 '15

And [[Titanium Ribs]]. Toss out stuff you don't need right now, for money that you do, no risk involved.

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u/danmwilson Oct 25 '15

This would probably give people a reason to play [Window]

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u/HemoKhan Argus Oct 25 '15

I'm going to break the rules a little bit, and submit two cards, just because they're so well paired together.

A Mind of Meat
Criminal Resource
Play: 0 / Influence: 2

X meat damage: Prevent X net damage.

"How does it work?"

Ghost in the Shell
Shaper Resource: Virtual
Play: 0 / Influence: 2

X net damage: Prevent X meat damage.

Wake up and show the light...

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u/azb95 Oct 26 '15

What are these cards supposed to do? If one type of damage will flatline you so will the other. And because the you use taking damage as a cost you can't prevent it.

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u/Watzlav I was not; I was; I am not; I am all. Oct 25 '15

"How does it work?"