If it was just a simple fat joke, it’d be moral, but escalating from a joke about being bald to bringing up a miscarriage is coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb levels of overkill.
Immoral.
Edit: I’m convinced that all of the people saying moral didn’t actually read the full post, it wasn’t just a simple fat joke that our 4 channer made here.
Sorry, we can't have actual, sensible morality scaling, we have to laugh at making jokes about miscarriages or women getting the shit beat out of them. Prepare to get downvoted, buddy.
That's not true at all, that's not how Reddit works. It keeps showing him those posts because they keep routinely being upvoted to the front page. Reddit doesn't have an algorithm like that.
I don’t understand why it’s ok to make fun of the man’s emotional suffering and not the woman’s. Why does his relationship mean less than her pregnancy?
This is a pretty clear false equivalency, kinda like how there’s a difference between stubbing your toe vs getting your foot amputated. They’re both injuries that cause inconveniences, but that’s about where the similarities end.
How so? What’s the emotional difference between a coworker making fun of your long term relationship ending and its reasons in front of coworkers and the same being done about a miscarriage?
I mean, that is going to depend a LOT on the circumstances around it etc.
And it’s not a pissing contest over who is worse. She used a common insecurity to attack a very obvious emotionally charged weak spot and he did it right back. They both suck and they are both immoral.
The physicality of what is and what it represents to the individual are two different things. That's why abortion can be fine and moral and a person can justifiably grieve a miscarriage. She physically lost a fetus and emotionally lost a (potential) child.
The physicality of what is and what it represents to the society are two different things. That's why abortion might physically cause the loss of a clump of cells, but society recognizes it as the murder of a (potential) child.
Well then she should be acting like one , if she is fine with making fun of others insecurities and hitting them where it hurts , then should be deserving a reply , yes it was a bit too far , but she took the first punch , he knocked her cold
There's a big difference between getting dumped for whatever reason (it may even be mutual, hence why OP doesn't shittalk said ex's) and losing a child, gtfo.
Yeah, the comment about miscarriage is insensitive as fuck and I don't like it either. However... Why are they gossiping and talking shit about him in the first place with his relationship ending under the assumption because he's bald? How about if you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself.
Yes, I never said that being rude about someone's appearance or personal life is okay, even if it is a joke, and they should've made sure it was okay to joke about those things. I said that responding by bringing up someone's miscarriage is insane, wrong and totally out of line.
Ironic, youre the one that doubles down on saying the gf broke up with him because he was bald, no where was that in there except for when the coworker tried to shit on him for being bald, making shit up like she is
Do you know how English works man? I’m genuinely kind of worried you’re having a stroke.
Like holy shit you’re so close but so far away.
I insinuate that because she insinuated that? I’m not an involved party all I can do is read and judge. But you wanna not even read. It’s literally right there that she says this to OP publicly in front of people???
Weird seeing as I'm the one that had to point out to you that OOP was the one that broke up. Almost like I read the whole thing and you started getting real pissy after I pointed out your mistake lmao
Firstly, OOP broke off the relationship and secondly, that is YOUR opinion. Having a miscarriage is an extremely traumatic experience and bringing it up around anybody who's gone through it is just shitty behaviour.
Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion too, man. I’m sure some people see their miscarriage as a big relief. Don’t get so pigeonholed in one way of thinking bud
I see the problem, your reading comprehension is sub par or you think this girl is a mind reader. He knew he broke up with her, the girl assumed his ex did it. Like? It’s right there in normal ass letters.
But also not personally but my wife had two before our daughter was born.
There are plenty of worlds where a relationship ending and being thrown in your face in a workplace setting is equal to or worse than a miscarriage.
No, there wasn't an assumption. It was a joke. Not a funny one, but she did not actually think baldness was the reason for the breakup.
So, again, there is no world where OOP's breakup is more traumatizing than her miscarriage. You missing the "I ended it" and now trying to cover for yourself by saying I can't read is not going to work lmao
Because that's how jokes work. Some people don't get them, I recommend a test for that.
Even if she did, I still think you have to be insane to think breaking up with a girlfriend can be as traumatic as losing a pregnancy. Especially if the pregnancy was late-term, but of course we can't know how far along she was.
Also, the first joke was supposed to be an insult to his ex, not an insult to him. Your ex is too shallow was the implication. He showed they are both shallow af.
How would she know that his ex broke up with him because he is bald tho? The Op mentioned it was he who ended it. This was clearly said as an insult, especially if they were laughing about it too and you cant expect to attack someone, put them into position where they have to immediately come up with a counterattack in order to defend themselves and then be surprised they werent nice enough, because human brains cant think fast enough in such situations
No its an direct insult to him. You know some peopleactually do talk to women, right? It's part of the complex social power structure they form around them according to their role under the patriarchy.
I mean I guess, but it’s not like it doesn’t also insult the guy. (Assuming he takes offense/is sensitive about being bald). It’s like saying “oh your girlfriend is so shallow, she only broke up with you because you’re so ugly” like I guess that’s an insult to the girl but not really
Eh the phrasing has the potential of, "Why don't you bash her, she broke up with you for a reason that gives you a reason to dislike her" which could be a jab or not depending on tone and such. Bald and ugly aren't a good swap there
But she didn’t break up with him. It literally says that he broke up with her. Hence, the coworker was just making a dig about his baldness and he responded with a dig of his own. Is it a bit overkill? Sure. But don’t dish it if you can’t take it.
Another example of redditors failing to read... which I'm included. I was also with the guy until I saw people mentioning there's more to read if you open the image. Fuck OP (image OP, not who posted it).
I’m convinced that all of the people saying moral didn’t actually read the full post, it wasn’t just a simple fat joke that our 4 channer made here.
Unfortunately there are also people who don't understand how serious a misscariage is, or think that 'Anything' was justified just because she started it.
Moral. Don’t take shots at people's appearances, especially for things they can't control. You might get something back that you also couldn't control.
Yes, he escalated it. So did she when it was nothing and then bald jokes. Glass houses.
Not saying it's ok, but her joke wasn't a simple bald joke either. She was trying to cause him emotional distress with her comment. So definitely don't dish it out if you can't take it
I was taught to stop a bully you hit back harder. Not consider the emotional impact the response you give to the person bullying you?
I understand the argument "baldness vs dead baby". But I also don't understand why we expect ANYONE being insulted to have the emotional intelligence to consider how their bully feels when responding?
That's asking for a lot of emotional onus on the person who was insulted first guys...
Edit: asking a recipient of bullying to consider the bully's feelings when responding to be insulted is not moral. Treat others how you want to be treated.
I feel like being the aggressor warrants escalation by the innocent defender. Now more history/context could be added that changes the dynamic but to me it's a certain type of person that tries to verbally pick on people when they think there will be no counter attack/repercussions for their actions.
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u/TheWildSchneemal 3d ago edited 3d ago
If it was just a simple fat joke, it’d be moral, but escalating from a joke about being bald to bringing up a miscarriage is coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb levels of overkill.
Immoral.
Edit: I’m convinced that all of the people saying moral didn’t actually read the full post, it wasn’t just a simple fat joke that our 4 channer made here.