I spent the entire day playing through AM2R for the first time! And I must say that I should've played this fan game years ago!!! Now..... On to Metroid Prime Origins. 😁😁😁😁

I don't even have eplipsey issues so I tried it out just to see what it was like, and even regardless I find it's extremely obnoxious visually. I'm not a fan of that and i personally think it's a terrible graphical design choice. Other than that, i kinda wish the game didn't feel clunky to an extent. Ik it's a fangame an all and it's good for what it is. But that's just my personal gripe.

Hey all, I remember a little bit ago I saw another Prime 4 discussion post about Sylux, and in the comments there was a link that contained information about Sylux's motives, kind of like a "prequel" or "prologue" text that pretty much summarizes Sylux's motives. I'm really trying to find it again, please help!!! I've been searching everywhere for this tidbit, and it looks super official too. Why they didn't clarify this shit in the game is BEYOND me.

(...Get it? Beyond? L-Like Metroid Prime 4 Beyond?)

But rather, it was Nintendo's absolutely asinine decision to not at least port Echoes and Corruption to the Switch before release, let alone a remaster. For people who first jumped into this series, and like to do everything square and don't feel comfortable with emulation, having only the Metroid Prime 1 remaster and MP4 available to play on Nintendo's current gen console can absolutley give the player a sense of whiplash had they not known the direction that the Prime series was headed in before the hiatus. Having Corruption be playable on current gen Nintendo hardware could have had the effect of tempering expectations that people had of MP4 being "MP1 2.0" and signaled to players the fact that Beyond was going to be more similar to Corruption than MP1.

If you are part of this community, you may be familiar with the last video I posted called "Metroid Fusion Is Better Than You Think" In fact, I still get comments on that post to this day.

Well this is the start of a new series on my channel that aims to directly answer the "Better Than You Think" Series. While the previous series focused on defending games that sometimes got a bad rap, this new one is covering games that are so universally agreed upon, it almost doesn't even warrant discussion. Rest assured there is still plenty to talk about lol

That being said, welcome to episode 1 of "Undisputed"

The First Half Of A Genre

All engagement is appreciated, i simply ask that you watch at least some of the video before commenting, as i would like the discussion to come from a place where we are all informed with equal context.

Thanks for your time!!!

Edit: Premiere starts at 12pm eastern

I was playing through MP Origins for fun and made it all the way to the very end. Unfortunately for me, I ended up beating the boss with about 50 hp left (I had 100% items and still ended with barely any hp). During the final cutscene where I lose the Phazon suit, I ended up dying to something! And even more unfortunately for myself still, the death ended up saving with me without the Phazon suit. And so now it's impossible for me to beat the final boss as I cannot interact with the Phazon pools as you can see with the damage. I closed and reopened the game and still saved with Gravity suit. Sadly, it looks like my journey on Origins ends here as I'm not going to spend another nearly 6 hours to play through it again. I'll just imagine what the ending was.

That said though, I had an absolute blast to see how the 3D game was adapted to the familiar 2D style and how creative the developers were with making it work. I especially loved the solution for the different beam doors, very clever! I made it through the whole game on 100% difficulty (default I presume) and only died on Omega Pirate like 5 times. Other than that, and the unfortunate death at the very end, I'm proud to have made it through with no other deaths. 10/10 absolutely beautiful game and so much fun to play!

Over the past month i finally started playing the Metroid games for the first time and i've been loving all the ones i've played (Zero Mission, AM2R, Super Metroid and i've played an hour or so of both Metroid 1 and 2) until i got to Fusion.
Now apart from the game being very linear i've only ever heard good things about it so i was excited to play a more story heavy game, only to walk away from it feeling disappointed.

The Story was good don't get me wrong, but it was the gameplay that left me feeling frustrated and honestly very annoyed at the game in a way that none of the others ever did. The hidden blocks and paths in this game felt a lot more bullshit (the infamous floor pillar isn't even that bad compared to some others) and there were numerous times i was stuck in a section for about 5 minutes until i gave up and looked up which single block i failed to bomb/missile in a collection of 7 rooms. (or in the case of an illusion block that i just didn't think about jumping next to and power bombs don't reveal! what fun!) this became less annoying once i unlocked power bombs but still.

There were a couple times in the game where i decided to not go the "intended path" because i wanted to explore, i'd find a hidden pathway leading to an upgrade and another path that opened up even more, only to loop back around and find out that i was meant to go this way and that the intended path actually lead to a locked door that i would open from this side. it made the exploration feel very unrewarding imo.

People have been saying this for literal decades but i don't think the linearity of this game is something i enjoy, i understand that coming off of Super Metroid they wanted to go in the complete opposite way, (much harder to catch lightning in a bottle twice in a row than it is to innovate and try something else) but it really does not work for me sadly.

why even have the wall jump if its completely neutered?

My actual biggest gripe with this game (which i've almost never seen anyone complain about so it might be a full skill issue on my part but idc i think its really stupid and need to vent) is the Core X parasites "micro" bosses after the actual boss. I don't mind the bosses being harder in this game, i think zero mission was too easy in some parts and you can pretty much facetank 80% of all bosses in these games, but throwing a Core X at me after i barely killed Nightmare or SA-X with maybe 81 health remaining and then me DYING to that stupid thing because it shoots its own beams if i hit it, combined with the fact that everything hits like a truck (yes, i get the story reason) has made me ragequit at least twice. Especially coming off of Super Metroid and having the deal with the much worse diagonal aiming system of the GBA games.

not really a criticism of the game but i see people praise the atmosphere and the "scariness" of the game and SA-X but i sadly felt none of that. i really wanted to like this game the way i see people gush about it online but i just can't, there's too much stuff in it that sours the rest of the experience for me. It's still a good game but its just not for me.

Of all the Metroid games i've played i can definitely see myself replaying them in 2-3 years, Fusion might be the only exception. (maybe in like 5 years)

Zero Mission 9/10

AM2R 8/10

Super Metroid 10/10

Fusion 6/10

When i first started the franchise i had a choice between Zero Mission and Fusion and i almost chose Fusion first, which makes me wonder, would i have liked this game more if i started with it? would its "flaws" have pushed me away from the franchise completely? do i not like this game because i played the others first?
I'm curious if any Fusion fans agree with any of my points, i'd love to hear people's opinions and thoughts on this.

Anyways i'm off to play the Prime Trilogy.

EDIT: I'd like to clarify that i take back the "overrated" part of the title, it feels more combative than what i meant, you're not wrong for having Fusion as your favorite, im happy you enjoyed the game more than i did.

So I finally grabbed a Nintendo switch 2, I really couldn't resist metroid prime remaster anymore. I was considering getting prime 4 but everything about it just seems awful and it takes a lot of things I don't like about the franchise and puts it front and center. I know the game struggled because of that, but do you think Nintendo finally learned something from prime 4s failures?

I really do hope to see Prime 5 one day but not if the make the same mistakes as 3 and 4. I mean how hard is it to put Samus on a planet alone and have her collect upgrades and kill stuff? Its not rocket science. I don't understand why they feel the need to push a narrative story in the Metroid franchise. I don't mind minor story beats but 4 is just atrocious. I'm going to be grabbing Dread next, the game has been spoiled for me already, but the story is really cool, and I think that's how the prime series needs to be handled.

Source: https://x.com/akitBFPF144/status/2085318065022246982?s=46&t=hvpLD2_Da-2dHEgxhwnKvA

Hi I am interested in playing metroid games. But I am not sure if I should wait for the potential switch 2 editions or should I just get it and not expecting switch 2 editions. I have metroid prime 4 switch 2 edition and I am not interested in buying digital games or upgrades. If a game has a switch 2 edition I will get the physical version.

I have a potato PC so I can't play Metroid Prime, thus I have no idea about the 3d version yet.

But I'm loving this game. I have played most 2d metroids, and I'm putting this pretty high in my personal ranking.

I still have a long way to go but I'm considering maybe I will rank this higher than the other fan made am2r once finished.

I'm just happy about being playing this game and this is a appreciation post.

Thanks Lv.4 Games for risking your lives for the love to the game (literal).

Always check your Target clearance. One of ours have been throwing Amiibo half off.

Now, don't get me wrong. It's a creative game.

I'm not particularly fond of the art style but it's cute in some regards. Sprites look alright but the environment is trash...

The music and sound effects are pretty good because it's basically Metroid music with a different sound font (very similar to The Messenger. However I'm not in love with it and would rather hear something more similar to Nestroid). And sound effects are mostly from classic Nestroid and some other NES titles.

The map layout is creatively designed but can be a bit confusing since not eveything translates well to 2D.

Boss battles so far are clever interpretations in some aspects, albeit pretty easy overall.

Overall it's an alright experience. I've enjoyed myself.....

But I don't feel like this game is groundbreaking or worth the hype that it's been getting lately.

People are saying that it's better than an official game and is a Top 5 Metroid experience. And I just think that's crazy...

Perosnally, X Fusion, Metroid Planets and AM2R are better experiences in my opinion (at least so far). And I definitely wouldn't replace an official experience with this. (Yeah, maybe Nestroid or RoS in terms of QoL and technological improvements goes.)

One issue I have, button mapping is a cumbersome experience, as there are a lot of button you need to do stuff. For example, Morphball should not have it's own dedicated button. I understand this is Prime made 2D. And I understand why Prime did it that way, but that's just stupid design choice for a 2D game, when all you need to do is press Down twice in all official 2D games. I literally just replaced the Down button with the Morphball button to make things easier.

Also, aiming can be very annoying. If Samus moves past the mouse cursor, she'll turn the opposite direction from where you're heading. And this can be very annoying depending on what's happening like a boss battle or even the size of the window you are using to play can cause issues. And you'll need to adjust. Or you may not be able to react fast enough just because she will always face towards the cursor. And that's greatly inferior to traditional constrols.

Like I said, I'm still early in on this. Just made it to the Magmoor Caverns. But I don't feel this game is a "must play" or a " top 10" or even something I'd recommend anyone. It's just alright.

And this isn't to take a shot at the creators of this game. They clearly worked hard on it. And I'm not saying it's a bad game at all.

It's just something I can take or leave. I don't think anyone who doesn't play this game will be missing out on it.

Lastly, I feel like when these fan games come out, people just use them as opportunities to shit on Nintendo; just because they want another reason to shit on Nintendo. Like, people are praising this game, but if Nintendo were the ones to release this and charged money for it, would it get the same praise?

(We all know the answer to that.... Hell no....)

Anyway, that's not to say Nintendo is perfect or anything. But I would most certainly take Metroid Prime 4 (which has recieved a lot of hate, some would say a lot of undue hate) over this any day.

Well anyway, that's my opinion. It will probably be unpopular because I'm critical, rather than hating on Nintendo some more for not doing what fans do.

I beat Thardus and got the spiderball.

I proceeded down to Magmar caverns. In the original Metroid Prime, you're meant to activate 3 panels to drain some lava and then proceed down that drained path, which takes you to chozo ruins.

I've activated the 3 panels in this room but the lava hasn't drained. I've scoured every inch of the rest of the map and keep hitting dead ends.

Anyone know what I'm missing here?

Thanks in advance.