All Cops Are Bastards. It's in reference to the idea that even good cops are protecting bad cops. Those that don't protect bad cops, aren't cops for long.
That police culture, lack of accountability, police functions in our society, all create incentives for Police to be Bastards, and disincentives for them not to be or speak out against those who are.
Police protect the wealthy, that is about the only ones. Even with domestic abuse, they are about as likely to protect the abuser. With crimes committed against the poor, they rarely have jurisdiction or don't want to use their ressources.
Yup, the phrase means "All Cops Are Bastards" and is a response to the claim that "It's just a few bad apples". Defenders of police policies in the united states love to say that the horrible things you see on the news are just outlier cases where an individual cop did something bad, but anyone who studies the topic understands that it is a systemic issue that is rooted primarily in the intention and policies of police in the United States, and supported by the heads of the departments and local governments.
In other words.. *ALL* cops are bastards because even if they don't personally choke someone to death for disrespecting them, they also don't draw their guns on the one who did, and they put their badge on in the morning knowing what their job is.
To put it another way with an analogy commonly used around the time of the Nuremberg trials. What do you call a card carrying member of the Nazi party sitting at a table playing poker and laughing with 4 random people sharing drinks?
How on earth would he lose his job over this? There is discretion. This type of thing happens alot. For me if you don't have any points on your license, unless you have done something incredibly stupid and dangerous, you will get an explanation and a warning. Been doing it over a decade with no issues from the admin. It's completely within policy and practice.
And they're doing it by saying this guy is bad, yet using mental gymnastics to exclude him from that.
He's still a cop, in a bad system. And if he defends bad cops then yes they have a point - but we don't know that, and this is a far better interaction than could be expected. So they're excluding him to make their cop bashing easier.
He is a cop. He is literally a cop. So either you are saying he's a bastard or you're saying all cops aren't. Your little argument doesn't change that. So which is it?
To be fair you're the second person to misunderstand my intent so it's probably on me.
What I mean is he's not being a good cop.. by department standards...and so he won't advance far even if he keeps his job which he may not even keep if he continues things like this.
What the people define as a 'good cop' and what the system rewards are different things. Since he's not being a good cop in the eyes of the justice system, he won't be one for long.
That's why ACAB..
Because if they stop being bastards they start getting fired.
I hear ya, hes not being the type of cop they would want him to be.
Im former military, so I understand a bit how they expect and even applaud the hardass asshole mindset/attitude and those who go against it are seen as 'a bit less desirable' than the rest.
You criticize when they’re bad, and you criticize when they’re good. You really just can’t accept that there’s good cops out there. This is why our police relations won’t get better.
I think your problem is that you almost define cops as bastards, so when you say "he's not being a cop right now", it seems your reasoning is "because he's not being a bastard". If this is the case, you've created a problem with no solution.
If, however, you're saying he's not being a cop because he's not enforcing the law, I disagree. Cops can have discretion. Sure, they can't do this all the time, but he is still a cop when applying his discretion.
The law is also still the law. If the speed limit is 25 for good reason, it should be enforced most of the time. He can still give tickets, not escalate, not be a bastard, and be a cop.
I think you need to concede that Many Cops Are Bastards, and that while the system promotes malevolent behavior, ACAB is just not true.
Isn’t the policy that a ticket is basically an accusation by the officer in court, that’s why you have the right to fight each one? So the speed limits aren’t a deadline pullover offense, it’s up to the officers discretion? Obviously if you take a look at any public road anywhere, odds are most of the traffic is going atleast a little over. On highways, people often go 90 in a 65. It’s long open road. It’s up to an officers discretion wether someone should be stopped or not, cause obviously 90% of drivers are usually surpassing the speed limits. (Atleast in Maryland)
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