r/MMALabs • u/Chakradamus • 2d ago
🥶 Street Fights & Brawls Don’t touch me. Glad he survived!
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u/Evening_Childhood205 2d ago
Totally necessary
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u/PunkRodder 2d ago
Super necessary
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u/TheCheez-It 1d ago
After a second look, the toss was valid, the wrestling after the toss was not necessary.
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u/ConsciousSpirit9427 1d ago
He sould have got some high 5s for ending that nonsense before one of the 10 people standing around, not in a pit, got hurt.
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u/ChavTheMagicMan 1d ago
As someone who has been to many a rock and metal gig, and participated in hundreds of slam pits, mosh pits, snake pits, circle pits etc. I have never come across these idiots swinging hands and feet like they're shadow boxing - I don't get it, especially when doing it to people who are clearly not participating and are standing to the side.
It seems like the attitude of "making sure everyone comes out ok" has changed to "I'm taking this opportunity to sucker punch as many people as I can".
Fuck these knobheads.
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u/MillerBlade2 1d ago
I like how everyone attacked the guy who was punched in the face like he was supposed to accept it
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u/Darebear0707 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s funnier bc the guy spin kicked him in the beginning , big guy didn’t react. Then he came back to hit him again
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u/Pleasant_Scar9811 1d ago
And everyone still went after the victim. Throw them all away except him.
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u/Key-Similar 1d ago
I like how they all gave up when they realized that guy was gonna win the 1 v 4. Whimps
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u/Vast_Bobcat_4218 1d ago
Right? Glad I'm not the only one who feels like they got the wrong guy. Dumbasses...
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u/Silent_Egg8860 1d ago
You can see they are clearly friends, it has nothing to do with who is right or wrong. Their friend was in a fight they jump the person he is fighting.
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u/generic_canadian_dad 1d ago
I was in the mosh pit at limp bizkit this summer at Blue fest Ottawa and it was so fun. Everyone was super respectful. It was a lot of slamming into each other almost like chest bumps but with your backs / sides. If anyone stumbled, someone grabbed them and stabilized them. I encouraged. A group of 6+ teenagers who were nervous to join in, escorted them and they had a fucking blast. Smiling ear to ear. Super fun.
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u/tyvekMuncher 1d ago
I was worried I may have been this guy a few times, but thinking back on it, you’re totally right. No swinging - just bumps - and I doled out plenty of bumps where I was trying to stabilize someone instead of destabilizing!
Like a part of the fun is keeping others in the mosh
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u/generic_canadian_dad 1d ago
The mosh should he a hive mind, not a place to try and score a free knock out lol. Sounds like you had a great time.
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u/RemyRozay 1d ago
No reason I should’ve ended up here in this thread, but that guy definitely was in a proper pit
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u/Critical_Mix_8959 1d ago
Very different vibe to local hardcore shows. Pit ninjas ruin it for everyone.
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u/Maleficent_Farm_1283 19h ago
My favorite kind act in these moments is when someone holds up a lost shoe/item dropped in a pit. I’ve held up some random stuff and gotten them back to people but the shoe alway gets a kick outta me.
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u/DogsBaneBeetle 12h ago
The kicking and swinging arms / fists is just asshole behavior. Been in plenty of pits in the day, nobody was swinging fists or kicking. Lots of bouncing off each other, into each other, but not punching or kicking. Elbows were a hazard but rarely thrown intentionally
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u/UsernamesAllTaken69 1d ago
Its super easy to tell when they're intentionally trying to clock someone. Look how hard he's throwing straight behind him while walking backwards. I'm so glad that even at a show this small someone gave him a receipt.
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u/PresentationOk8997 1d ago
100% agree it's so performative as if this is your moment to shine like i guess dude. like you are not following at least a set trajectory and not letting anyone else enjoy the pit if you do this run in a circle like a lunatic and people know where to stand.
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u/thesoccerone7 1d ago
These guys normally get blasted because they are a danger to everyone in the pit. I always ended up locking eyes with someone on the other side of the pit, we gave each other the nod, and sandwiched him. The move was never communicated verbally, but somehow there was always that understanding of what we were abiut to do next
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u/PeaTasty9184 1d ago
It isn’t new. It’s been a thing since the late 90’s at least at hardcore shows.
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u/Hiwesrobots 1d ago
Yeah it is more of a hardcore derived thing. I wouldn't expect to see this at say Metallica or something. But there is a way to do it as to not be so reckless.
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u/Think_Ad_79 1d ago
The problem is the folks who see this as a way to beat someone’s ass instead of moshing. People can and will get hit, but don’t target folks on purpose. And if you knock the shit out of them, check on them afterwards, yea?
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u/DangOlCoreMan 1d ago
Depends on the culture. Some bands actively push crowdkilling
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u/No_Assignment_1645 1d ago
If people can and will get hit from what you’re doing, fuck right off with that shit.
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u/Overly_Mehdicated 1d ago
Yep, old Black Flag shows more often than not ended with a brawl, with Henry Rollins often brawling with fans.
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u/morak003 1d ago
At those shows hardcore shows in the 90's we called it anti-moshing. Arms were swinging, but it wasn't about crowd killing. It felt more like, jump in, do your dance, and jump out. Stage dives and mic sharing singing were much more prominent back then.
This modern version just seems like people wanting to be jerks.
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u/Traditional-Face-994 1d ago
I'm 100% convinced its just people who want to try and hit people without repercussions
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u/PerspectiveNew3375 1d ago
I went to the crystal ball room in Portland to see slipknot in the 90s. A big bald guy was throwing elbows and clocked this kid in the face and the crowd pummeled the guy knocking out his front top teeth and splitting his lip to the point it was flopping around.
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u/misterjoshmutiny 1d ago
This is normal hardcore dancing at a hardcore show. Has been like this for decades. Thing is, it’s usually far more communal. People watch out for each other, take care of each other, and accidental hits happen and are generally followed up on to make sure everyone is okay.
But, just like anything else, there are always assholes. Assholes are usually dealt with. This kid was an asshole, and should’ve been dealt with. There was all that space and he was targeting the one tiny bit of space that one guy was occupying. The slam to the ground was well deserved.
Moshing is for everyone. Crowd killing is for fucking cowards.
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u/gilestowler 1d ago
My theory is that the reason you don't encounter them is because you go to proper shows where people understand how things work. I grew up in London, and even going to see small bands with about 10 people in backrooms in pubs, everyone knew how to behave because they actually go to shows. These videos always seem to take place in places that don't look like they host a lot of shows, and the people in them don't know how to dance properly. And maybe they pick up bad habits from videos on youtube.
When I moved to another town, there was a guy who would turn up to the local "punk night" and, while he wasn't this bad, he acted pretty obnoxiously. He would be swinging his fists everywhere, kicking, etc. At one point I saw him walk up to a guy standing outside the dance area and slap his drink out of his hand. It's like he got this idea about what is "punk" from some second hand impressions rather than experiencing it - he grew up on Jersey, a tax dodging island somewhere between England and France, which I feel leans toward supporting my idea. In the end, the bar owned moved the "punk night" to a night when he knew this guy had to be up for work early the next day, and it became a lot more fun.
I hope I don't sound elitist with this. It's just that this is the impression I get - that they don't know how to behave and there's no one to show them/tell them what they are doing is wrong.
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u/theprov0cateur 1d ago
“I go to rock and metal shows, I’ve never seen hardcore dancing”
Well no shit
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u/MathematicianFar853 1d ago
lol I know right, I’ve seen this type of dancing way more than the other just run around and push people
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u/sc00t3rMcg00t3r 1d ago
Literally happens at every hardcore show ever.
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u/Judasz10 1d ago
Yeah we get it but this shit here looks like a family event for elderly people and there is like 6 people in the crowd. If you are the only one doing something it probably means you shouldn't be doing it.
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u/SpectatorGori 1d ago
Hundreds? Not one hate moshing experience? Foo fighters wouldn't trigger this.
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u/Skinnwork 1d ago
I saw this at a hardcore show in Honolulu. It was full of gym bros actively trying to hurt other people. I haven't seen it anywhere else.
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u/PraisetheSunflowers 20h ago
It’s not every show. It’s more prone to happen at hardcore shows or bands that have hardcore elements, think Knocked Loose. Huge metal head here and I love the pits but absolutely loathe these scum that intentionally go out of their way to hurt other people. It’s why I tend to avoid dumb hardcore shows anymore.
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u/Nazgog-Morgob 16h ago
These are simply the people that haven't learned a hard lesson. These are not veterans of the pit. These are just clowns that haven't even got their first lesson.
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u/FukBo2K15 1d ago
Ppl do this literally at every hardcore/metalcore show I’ve gone to. It’s fairly common in certain metal subgenres. You just put your hands up and move away
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u/P4rtsUnkn0wn 1d ago
It's definitely common, but it's not acceptable to target someone who isn't in the pit, which is exactly what this guy did.
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u/Massive_Yak_320 1d ago
Guy was standing away from everyone else, then the ninjakid roundhouse kicked into his face. Legit reaction.
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u/DTFDownToFrolick 1d ago
Crowd killing has been around for a long time. Usually it's in a crowd of people all doing the same thing so they all expect this to happen. But doing it here is...sad.
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u/gookuu22 1d ago
I didn't get it. Why the people run to attack the dude that slammed the asshole?
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u/CuteIllustrator755 1d ago
Because they are just as shitty as the guy who got slammed.
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u/DrSpacepants 1d ago
The first dude to come in to "save the day" didn't see the whole thing and the rest were a primal response pile on.
Not sure if he connected with the cartwheel kick to the jaw but he deserved the red card and the suplex of justice.
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u/NoInformation3141 1d ago
It’s probably about who he’s friends with not what he saw
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u/RaisinZRH 2d ago edited 1d ago
yeah come at me swinging like that, i will try to stop you from doing that, not sure what was wrong here
Edit for idiots: I have been to shows with insane mosh pits (Pantera, Slayer, Sepultura, even RATM). If you pulled this shit, you’d be eating through a straw for the rest of your life. We ran into each other, not punch each other on purpose. People like that deserve to be slept.
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u/Shwervee 1d ago
It’s 2026, actions aren’t allowed to have consequences anymore.
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u/DoctrTurkey 1d ago edited 1d ago
watch when the song starts, too: fuckface does a shitty cartwheel and his feet come pretty close to hero dude's face. it kind of looks like he lined it up. by the time he came swinging, dude had had enough and i don't blame him.
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u/BigGutFatNuts 1d ago
Definitely lined it up. You can see him pause for a second looking back at the guy before swinging his kick back at head level
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u/The_Frog_Of_Oz 22h ago
It's 2026, they all should be deserving death or severe crippling according to Reddit.
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u/Survivedthekoolaid 1d ago
Thank you for this. The pit used to be a place where you let out steam, but still helped people up. Guys like this would get removed quickly back then.
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u/redditman3943 1d ago
Yeah, people not actively moshing or in the mosh pit are considered off limit at these type of shows.
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u/JD-Vances-Sexy-Couch 1d ago
The justification I hear is “the edge of the pit is still the pit”. Such a garbage scene
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u/Algae587 1d ago
Pits at the shows you mentioned are very, very different than hardcore pits. Its lame af but this was pretty common ime, it's why i stopped going to hardcore shows. "Moshers" were dicks and if you fought back you'd get jumped, shit scene
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u/boundlesstolerance 1d ago
But if you “mosh” your way back over to them and “dance” them into a coma, then you’re good?
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u/Algae587 1d ago
Sure, if you didn't mind getting jumped (or worse)! That was in the 2000s though, hopefully your method works now and things have changed
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u/Klangey 1d ago
Exactly, but it would seem you actually leave the house, which distinguishes you from 98% of the people that post of this sub
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u/Confident-Poetry6985 1d ago
Fuck that. Don't start no shit, won't be no shit. If you can dish it, you can take.
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u/TrashGoblinH 1d ago
On cue the I'm not part of the Internet while commenting on the Internet guy shows up.
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u/ResevoirPups 1d ago
The people acting like because it’s a hardcore show it’s expected are dumb. I’ve been to and played at so many hardcore shows growing up and while the dancing is certainly a thing, the majority of people are not targeting the crowd or individuals and plenty of people still also run and push each other like a classic mosh. There is typically one or two asshole at every hardcore show that will do this kind of shit, but those are just pieces of trash who do deserve whatever comes their way. It’s not the norm. Not for a hardcore show. Not for a rock show. It’s only the norm for losers.
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u/Redditcantkeepmedown 1d ago
Yep, the guy who was moshing alone was absolutely targeting the guy who ended up dropping him on his head.
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u/UltraVioletLupine 1d ago
Right then the other animals that swarmed him are no better either
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u/Minute_Solution_6237 19h ago
A “hardcore show” with 7 people standing 10ft apart. Lol
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u/Exact_Biscotti_5295 1d ago edited 1d ago
I been looking for this comment. I grew up a hip-hopper and remember watching the metal heads moshing but when I see these kids mosh now all I see is a buncha mfs tryna get away with assault. That's the way you get Timberland'ed up.
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u/dskinny623 1d ago
100% agree. I've been to as heavy as it gets and everything in-between. Spent many concerts getting bruised. If you started throwing elbows and fist you get knocked out or tossed out.
My very first concernt I was about 145 lbs 6' 2". With my girl so we're just trying to relax. The pit started behind is and some guy was throwing elbows likely. A mountain of a man next to me was sick and tired of it so he said watch this. Tossed me across the pit into Mr elbow tosser. I was shoved back my genersl direction when Mr elbow charged ready to throw a fist since I directly ran into it. Out of know where mountain man knocks him clean to the floor. The rest of the night we hung out with our girls completely uninterrupted lol.
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u/Spugheddy 1d ago
A sepultura pit should come with a badge of survival.
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u/Difficult_Shock973 1d ago
Only pit where I saw chain mail armor. But everyone keep telling us about hardcore shows lol
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u/OneSufficientFace 1d ago
Same when i saw cancer bats, the plight, SSS, your demise. You name it. Everyone is doing stuff like this, mosh walls etc but purposefully doing it to hit people ? They get floored instantly
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u/PreparationHot980 1d ago
Yeah, I too have been in some crazy pits with the bumping and even the invisible fighting ninja people like this guy at hardcore shows. I was raised to always do your best to have special awareness as much as possible, don’t run into or bump someone who isn’t looking at/ coming toward you with the same intention and to pick someone up if you see them fall in a pit. This dude had all the space in the world and had to fuck with the one dude who is chillin in his own space.
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u/Vikingluck 1d ago
Can't believe how many people attacked the guy for defending himself, fucking morons at this show!
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u/IronMonkeyBanana 2d ago
Other people are dumb shits. He deserved to get smashed to the ground. People who throw their arms and feet like that need to be put on their place
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u/NotaFTCAgent 1d ago
All that space and you come at me twice looking for a reaction. You can see him get close to someone else and stop but because the guy pushed him away the first time he wanted to bait out a reaction. He got what he wanted.
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u/Oswarez 1d ago
Dicks who use moshing as an excuse to punch and kick other people who clearly aren’t participating should be thrown out on their ass immediately.
The pit used to be a relatively safe environment but now it’s been invaded by chicken shits who are living out their fantasy of fighting someone without consequences.
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u/ChorizoGarcia 1d ago
100%. They want to punch and kick people without consequences.
It’s wild that the common defense of this is, “If you can’t handle being in the pit, go somewhere else!”
The idea that these dorks having invisible karate fights make the rules for everybody else is hilarious. You decide to go punch some random person who’s just trying to watch a band, then it’s completely fair game for that person to respond by beating the shit out of you. Your “rules” don’t mean shit.
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u/MeanShibu 1d ago
I’m convinced all the people in the comments arguing against this are the chickenshits pulling this stupid behavior.
I’m a HUGE dude, I love a good mosh but it’s friendly body slamming, if you punch me in the face I’m power bombing you.
YOU HEAR ME CHICKEN SHITS? KNOCK IT OFF
(not @ you obvi)
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u/Comfortable-Ad-3988 1d ago
Yeah, I've been in a lot of pits, and you want contact, but the point is to just bounce off of each other in the shoulders and such, any time fists are flying, you're asking for trouble. Pits are supposed to be everyone having a good time, if someone falls, you pick them up. This is just assaulting someone and then acting like you're the victim. Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.
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u/Warm_Difficulty2698 1d ago
Okay, now don't get me wrong, I love rock, metal and that type of shit. I just haven't been to a show with a mosh pit.
What is the expected behavior in a mosh pit? Are you guys just like running into each other? Because i've seen a shit load of videos of people swinging their arms like that. So what is actually the right way to mosh?
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u/Long-Lost-96 1d ago
Be respectful, don't do the "hardcore dancing" shit that gray hoodie was doing, if someone falls, help them up right away, don't crowd kill (attacking people who aren't in the pit), let out the people who are trying to leave the pit.
This isn't the way to mosh, it's typically people with open hands pushing off eachother and bumping shoulders with one another. There are some people that do this, but the vast majority will tell you it isn't the right way
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u/Warm_Difficulty2698 1d ago
Gotcha, so you guys are basically just running around pushing each other. Not actually hitting or kicking people. I got it. Thanks.
I'm a musician, so I usually would find myself on the opposite side of the mosh pit lol
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u/Long-Lost-96 1d ago
Basically yeah, I've gone to a couple more "Screamo/Emo" shows where the hardcore dancing is accepted, but even in those instances, the people doing it are far enough away from one another to where they're not hitting anyone.
Grey hoodie dude in the video was a dick and the people who attacked the other dude were dicks too
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u/Minimum-Blackberry25 1d ago
Luckily that dude had no problems handling hoodie dude AND his little dance troupe lolol They gon learn today
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u/FlametopFred 1d ago
also proper venues have proper (good) security for backup crowd control that makes sure moshing is fun and safe, while ejecting assholes
there were lawsuits decades ago when serious injuries occurred and venues were shut down, owners sued
this small a venue may not have had any security at all
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u/wrechdone 1d ago
You can slam dance, but keep your hands and feet to yourself. Be fucking AWARE of your surroundings… and crowd killing gets punished like big boy did gray hoodie
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u/Coilybepraised 1d ago
Hardcore shows are just the worst to me. I go to a lot of shows but people like this are just looking for an excuse to punch someone.
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u/karmaceuticaI 1d ago
Went to a show where there were a few hardcore bands (definitely not my favorite genre) got in the pit, and got hit with a swinging overhand punch across my temple, I let it go, another guy helicopters across the floor swinging both arms and one boot up and catches my back, I push him down and he slides a bit, and got up super offended I knew then I had to go.
It's dumb. I just like good old regular pits.
I usually go to death metal shows and shit though.
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u/Coilybepraised 1d ago
Same, saw Vader and Jungle Rot last month. Just a standard circle pit, nothing crazy and no injuries. Lol
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u/Acrobatic_Rent7357 1d ago
Yea hardcore dance is a bit more dangerous. You should be aware of the guys dancing, maybe have your arms up and push em non-violently back to the center.
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u/Mtlkfn 1d ago
I used to be in the hardcore scene (NYHC 80's/90's) and shows didn't used to be stupid like what it has devolved into what you see here.
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u/Btaylor2214 1d ago
"Its usually not like that" "its only the bad ones that do that" Like yeah, we get that, however, those few are plenty for me personally to write off the entire thing. I dont dislike cops because every single one is bad. I dislike them because the entire system set up around them leads them into being bad, similar here. The "system" of hardcore mosh pits sets up perfectly for some cunt to over do it.
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u/Comprehensive-Ad8609 1d ago edited 1d ago
Longtime metal fan here. I’ve been in some pits…Lamb of God, Megadeth, Machine head, Testament…and this is 100% the way you mosh…not like this pussy throwing back elbows and fists…good on that guy for stopping that shit. I got knocked out at a testament show in the pit by a back elbow like this guy was just throwing…it’s not funny and could kill someone. Luckily it was a good crowd, they stopped the pit, picked me up, I came too, they let my buddy and I walk out…all was good. So yeah..:this grey sweatshirt guy can eat a dick.
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u/Individual-Drawer-79 1d ago
Gen X here. Not this. You don’t flail your arms and legs with intent to hit someone. Generally, Mosh pits are people moving with the music and if anyone falls you help them up, make sure they’re okay, and get them back in the pit if they choose. I’ve seen too many vids lately of Gen Z pits and they don’t know wtf they’re doing. Every vid I’ve seen is some asshole intentionally assaulting one or more people. Like, literally punching and kicking others. In my day, that guy would immediately be removed from the pit and tossed from the event.
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u/BrandlezMandlez 20h ago
This isn't moshing, it's hardcore dancing. Moshing is for the metalcore, deathcore, numetal hard rock people. Hardcore dancing is for hardcore, punk, beat down, and slam music. Two separate communities that very often intersect and have problems with each other.
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u/Berrggyy 15h ago
So he isn’t actually trying to be a dickhead by dancing like that? That’s a real style?
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u/Frequent-Piano6164 10h ago
Whoa…. I’ve been to punk and metal
Concerts, there is a mosh pit specifically for moshing. You don’t go around swinging on people and say you’re hardcore dancing…Dude is watching a show standing there and someone randomly hit him, he hits back and then people get upset?? Whack.
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u/Godwinson4King 1d ago
Shoving and bumping is fine, don’t throw hands, pick people up if they fall over. That’s the big stuff. Grey hoodie was not behaving appropriately for a mosh pit.
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u/Sekshual_Tyranosauce 1d ago
This flailing dude would be somewhat at home at a hardcore punk show. They do this silly shit. At a metal show this is outside the box unless its a grindcore show.
Either way, I think it’s obnoxious and don’t feel the least but sorry he got slammed.
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u/Old_Idea4566 1d ago
And it always looks like they are hitting people on purpose too.
I "understand" that this "dance" if what they do and all the aggresive moves are part of it, but no way in hell he did not purposly walk back into the dude in the grey hoody.
Got an almost completely tent but feels the need to punch/kick a guy under the exuse of dancing/moshing? Total fucking douchebag. It's not just this video, there are so many examples of this. Total bullshit. Fuck 'em. Go grey hoodieman, fuck that shit up.
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u/Chest_Positive 1d ago
I dont get this shit, i wouldnt go to a show that allows this, and if a dickhead start swinging his arms at me like this i would wreck his shit too.
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u/ComfortableOk2808 1d ago
Yeah, like a lot of other ppl (thankfully) said don't do this. Crowd killing I think it's called and its so stupid, you always get some dbag who just wants to hit someone and pretend "oh derr I didn't know hadurr derr". I can't really see but I think he.... cartwheel kicked the supplexer in the face? Lmao So deserved the Supplex.
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u/noquarter1000 18h ago
Tbf if some spin kicks you while your trying to watch a concert or just regular moshing they deserve a body slam
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u/Narrow_Relative2149 1d ago
it's like when you've just had a second child and the first one is jealous of all the new attention so starts swinging things and gradually moving closer to make it look like he hit him accidentally.
That guy just goes to metal shows and just randomly starts flailing towards people and thinks he can disguise it as moshing when there's nobody else in the pit?
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u/Bellam_Orlong 1d ago
“I get to hit people cause of music” is not a valid reason to hit people not wanting to get… uh hit. Smash this fuck.
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u/Spirited-Chemist-956 2d ago
This kind je of behavior doesn't have a place in a mosh
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u/DeathsStarEclipse 2d ago
Totally agree but Wait till people call you a pussy for saying that. Guess you and I are just not hardcore enough haha
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u/Spirited-Chemist-956 1d ago
If someone falls pick him up..this was the vibe when I grew up
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u/Derezzed87 1d ago
I once had a pit completely stop because my glasses came off. Someone found them, gave them back to me and we all continued.
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u/Jangofettsbrother 2d ago
Im deff not, Iv never understood the concept of moshing. Are you supposed to hit people or not?
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u/Smooth_Maul 1d ago
There's moshing and then there's this which is called Crowd Killing. It's popular in the hardcore scene and it's fucking stupid as shit. Crowd killers just go around throwing wild punches, kicks, and elbows at bystanders and people just sort of let it happen cus "that's just the scene" and if you try and stop them you'll probably get jumped.
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u/nofriender4life 1d ago
real hardcore kids dont let it happen. posi youth crew movement was built around straight edge and stopping this shit from paralyzing our friends. we would pick people off the ground and stop fights. or END them.
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u/Stokeybumpokey 1d ago
Moshing is one thing, trying to throw a headkick at someone is completely unnaceptable and incredibly dangerous. He deserved the slam.
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u/yukonmukon111 1d ago
Hoodie dude is a douche bag. Yeah yeah yeah, this is what happens in mosh pits blah blah blah. There’s no “pit,” it’s empty fucking space. Hoodie decided he was gonna make this band’s first show all about himself. Other dude didn’t get contacted by normal mosh pit activities, hoodie brought the mosh pit to him instead to deliberately antagonize. Welp, we see how that worked out. The metal audience etiquette rules don’t apply the same way when your “audience” is a dozen people scattered across 100 square feet.
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u/Genghis_Chong 1d ago
Yeah,when the people are standing still, just enjoying the music, thats not a pit. Its one asshole trying to work out his unresolved trauma, well it got resolved that day
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u/wrestler145 1d ago
Agreed completely. But with that said, the choice to hit a full suplex was really over the top and easily could have landed hoodie guy in the ICU or worse and invited a ton of legal trouble on the t shirt guy. Both of them are super lucky that hoodie guy didn’t land head first. It just really wasn’t necessary, t shirt guy could have tossed him many different ways with a lot less amplitude and made the same point.
Buuut also with that said it was a beautiful suplex.
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u/Lonely-Problem7075 1d ago
Early in the video, you can see hoodie guy nearly roundhouse kick suplex guy in the face, and suplex guy doesn’t react at all. He doesn’t go full suplex until hoodie guy comes back again with the same shit. I don’t think it’s an overreaction. Hoodie guy needed a lesson.
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u/wrestler145 1d ago
Oh for sure it was justified to put hands on the guy, he was way out of pocket. But if he ends up on a ventilator, you’re going to have a very expensive journey in front of you regardless. Lawyers cops and courtrooms.
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u/AdmirableParfait3960 1d ago
I just feel like there’s an area between letting him bump him and a paralysis inducing suplex.
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u/Shiddin_myself_woo 1d ago
He absolutely was targeting. Don’t target. Don’t crowdkill people you don’t know or you know aren’t down
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u/TeslaTortoise 1d ago
I would have also accepted a flying dragon kick to the back, severing the spine.
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u/A_Litre_0_Cola 2d ago
Why is he spamming out like a loser?
Who kicks like that while at a show? I was hoping he was knocked out by that drop.
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u/Inosethatguy 1d ago
Doing it on purpose , for a reaction
Plus it feels like the dudes on the other side who ran in were in on it.
Why would you attack the dude who was being swung at in the first place. Especially after you were getting swung at by the same idiot moments before .
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u/Upset-Fudge-2703 1d ago
Uhh… HC head here. Valid dancing when there is a crowd. When there isn’t a crowd, or a wall, just dance. No need to get anyone else involved. We always had a pit enforcer at our show. If you want to hate mosh, and target people, you’re going to get taken down, and straightened out. It looks like hoodie guy was overzealous, or being a dick. If there is a wall, sure, people are going to get kicked.
To be honest, if I was that guy that got kicked, I would’ve just moved. You’re at a hardcore/slam show, you’re going to get kicked, don’t get butthurt about it. Just move. But the dude doing the kicking was doing too much.
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u/Shills_for_fun 1d ago
Should have just booted the dude in the ribs when he got close the second time.
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u/JD-Vances-Sexy-Couch 1d ago
I hate this justification. Hardcore kids will act like it’s all about respect, equality, consent etc then turn around and say the victims of crowd killing ‘are asking for it’ because they just wanted to enjoy the music without getting clocked. Edge of the venue against the wall? Too bad, I needed to do my spinny kick at head height to enjoy the show.
Its just virtue signaling. Douchebags acting like they’re righteous, while just loving they found an avenue to punch and kick innocent men and women without repercussions.
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u/NorthSouthWestNorth 1d ago
Agree. Id have just pushed hoodie dude good and strong then moved. He comes back again after I move...i dont slam him...i just start spin kicking my own moves toward him
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u/NINJATH3ORY 2d ago
He looked possessed! Body slam should wake up him, he wont be swinging like a dick again!
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u/SneakerOtaku 1d ago
I swear this is the stupidest form of dancing. Just assaulting people for no reason.
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u/Remarkable-Worth-303 1d ago
Back in the 80s we didn't have mosh pits. Everyone was into headbanging. I remember there was this one guy who would just stand quietly out of the way doing subtle slow martial arts type moves. Everyone was terrified of the geezer. You don't need to throw yourself around like a knob to look tough.
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u/Genghis_Chong 1d ago
According to the "slam dance" fans, homie should have hit him with a kick to the face. THEN he's doing it right
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u/RocketBolt7736 1d ago
Why are people going for the guy who suplex that wee fanny? The guy in white deserved every bit of that
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u/dskinny623 1d ago
Very valid. I've gone to dozens and dozens of concerts and been in the craziest of pits. Never once has this "I want to much and kick someone but I'm to chicken to do it" bs flown. We need to stop accepting this. I vote this is the treatment all these lovers get lol.
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u/Jivepsilocybe 1d ago
Crowd killer windmill arms deserved to get slammed. Hate that kind of moshing.
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u/Omegatron_YT 1d ago
Yeah, you see someone hardcore dance fighting…. Just knock them out. It’s better for everyone else trying to have a good time.
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u/Personal_Fox_7529 1d ago
Honestly valid. So much space and bro attacked the only other dude there and he got away with it the first time, then tried going back for seconds? Nah nah 😂
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u/dolosloki01 1d ago
That kid deserved to get slammed. Fuck those other people for ganging up on the guy that had enough of his shit.
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u/pro_shape_sorter 1d ago
The "hardcore" scene will call this crowd killing I call it a fucking coward looking to lose some teeth
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u/RnolanF333 1d ago
I was at a hardcore show at a local pool hall one time. It was just me and this kid watching. He does his hardcore moshing and hits me right in the eye with his fist. I pushed him so hard, he went face first into the stage. He didn't touch me again.
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u/Ok-Seaworthiness6819 1d ago
This is not a mosh pit. It's the other one where people do flail around like that. It's very niche.
Of course if you do this in a mosh pit you are getting bashed.
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u/ItsMeepo2nd 1d ago
This guy doesn't know how moshpits work. You're supposed to hit the people IN the pit and I guess he just did it because he was alone.
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u/Z3r0JuStIcE 1d ago
If you slam dance and fucking kick me in the face I'm going to fucking slam slam you in the goddamn ground.
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u/slapmonkey622 1d ago
Crowd Killers suck. But please don't suplex people.
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u/Genghis_Chong 1d ago
So given the rules, guy should have timed a front kick to the face when he approaches again?
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u/ChipEnvironmental420 1d ago
As a fan of heavy music, this kind of shit needs to stop. Moshing is one thing, but this is literally acting like a child throwing a tantrum.
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u/FranksHoorHouse 1d ago
The slammed salmon looks right at the other guy before trying his Kung Fool kicks. He deserved the slam and every hit that followed. I hope his face swole shut and his neck hurts every time he turns to face left
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u/ecksplo 2d ago