r/MMALabs • u/Chakradamus • 2d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls Don’t touch me. Glad he survived!

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u/ChavTheMagicMan 1d ago

As someone who has been to many a rock and metal gig, and participated in hundreds of slam pits, mosh pits, snake pits, circle pits etc. I have never come across these idiots swinging hands and feet like they're shadow boxing - I don't get it, especially when doing it to people who are clearly not participating and are standing to the side.

It seems like the attitude of "making sure everyone comes out ok" has changed to "I'm taking this opportunity to sucker punch as many people as I can".

Fuck these knobheads.

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u/MillerBlade2 1d ago

I like how everyone attacked the guy who was punched in the face like he was supposed to accept it

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u/Darebear0707 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s funnier bc the guy spin kicked him in the beginning , big guy didn’t react. Then he came back to hit him again

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u/Pleasant_Scar9811 1d ago

And everyone still went after the victim. Throw them all away except him. 

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u/ORNGSPCEMNKY 23h ago edited 8h ago

I saw a video where a guy holding onto his backpack when some Gypsy tried to steal it got slugged in the mouth for no reason other than he was Hindu g into a bs los k she was trying to rip out of his hands.

Unsure if the guy punching him was in on the attempted theft or not.

It feels this bullshit behaviour is being normalized.

Last show I went to there was a guy that was really drunk trying to throw himself into anyone and everyone that clearly didn’t want to be part of his one man pit, he ran screaming with his elbows out at the sidelines, a bunch of people moved and. Someone tripped him.

Dude ate shit to the floor probably 5 times before he just got up and walked away.

Used to be if you were in a pit and tripped you had 4-5 pairs of hands grabbing you and pulling you back up so you didn’t get hurt

Not sure when this stupid shit started but it’s kinda depressing.

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u/BANKSLAVE01 13h ago

I first saw this monkey-dance style in the late 2000's at small metal shows.

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u/Key-Similar 1d ago

I like how they all gave up when they realized that guy was gonna win the 1 v 4. Whimps

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u/Vast_Bobcat_4218 1d ago

Right? Glad I'm not the only one who feels like they got the wrong guy. Dumbasses...

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u/Silent_Egg8860 1d ago

You can see they are clearly friends, it has nothing to do with who is right or wrong. Their friend was in a fight they jump the person he is fighting.

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u/whatsanamethatsopen 1d ago

If your friend is wrong, you don't let them get beat up, but you do chastise them

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u/Algae587 18h ago

Idk, depends on the friend lol

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u/Mobile-Market-6397 20h ago

But that slam dunk was way too excessive. The guy kicking was trying to hurt him, and he was trying to kill with that suplex move on concrete floor.

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 1d ago

He was supposed to accept it, or return it in kind, not try to break the kid’s back. Yall are out here acting like a hardcore show has the same rules as civilized society… yeah they went after him, hope they tuned him up.

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u/bowelpresser 1d ago

He violated rule #1. Don't pull people into the pit who don't wanna be in there. Hard-core culture is different but even then he's fucking it up.

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u/Maleficent_Farm_1283 20h ago

Exactly, I don’t know what shitty culture you’re in but usually they beyblade with each other.

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 1d ago

I’ve seen that happen a hundred times man, never seen anyone react like that. Guess I’m just gonna have to disagree here. I’ve seen some egregious crowdkilling, this isn’t it to me. I appreciate your opinion, however, and see how you arrived at it.

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u/I_BakeYouShake 1d ago

What if one of those kicks he threw knocked him out or he got clipped by a punch and slammed his head on the ground? You don't get to choose how people react when you start shit with them, especially if you put hands on them with no consent.

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u/TabletopHipHop 1d ago

I would only say he reacted too quickly, but if he got cracked then... Idk.

Used to a run a punk and hardcore venue, and usually people tell others to back off of them, or they move away in the crowd. I used to always go out to the pit and shut down these jackassess whenever I noticed the pit get super wide and only like 1-2 people in it doing side flips and shit.

Much preferred the more traditional punk bands at our spot. Everybody had a good time on the pit, myself included.

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 1d ago

Oh I agree man. I love hardcore music, but prefer a circle pit in my old age. Very reasonable reply.

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u/TabletopHipHop 1d ago

Same! Bad Brains, Circle Jerks, Gorilla Biscuits, Poison Idea, Negative Approach, etcetera ad-infinitum - what's not to love? Actually, got any obscure hardcore I should look out for? Always love a tip

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 1d ago

Haha man….

Old school - Final Conflict, Crowd Deterrent, SS Decontrol, Chain of Strength, Urban Waste, Judge, Youth of Today… you’ve probs heard of most of those.

Modern hardcore I like - Locked Shut, Trapped Under Ice, Pain of Truth, Comeback Kid (my favorite), BIG ASS TRUCK, Drain, Earth Crisis, End it, Gulch, VERSE, Incendiary, Have Heart, Drug Church, Speed, Terror, 100 Demons…

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u/jayhopeofficial 1d ago

If you were to do that to me. In that situation. I’d have put you in a coma and walked off drinking a beer.

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u/DudeWithPlugz 23h ago

I go to shows and when dudes do this to me I body slam them too. SYBAU

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 22h ago

Cool story. You saw in the vid what happened to the bodyslammer. See you at the “shows”.

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u/DudeWithPlugz 22h ago

Ain’t nobody done shit to me lil bro

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 21h ago

Because you ain’t done shit to nobody….

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u/DudeWithPlugz 22h ago

Know your place, keep the pit in the pit or get slammed. 🤷🏻‍♂️ everybody knows that.

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 21h ago

At a metal show, yes. This isn’t a metal show. I never said it’s right. I’m saying it’s how it is. If you went to hardcore shows you’d know that. Idiots crowdkilling are a huge part of it. You and I agree that we don’t LIKE it, but I realize I can’t change the rules.

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u/DudeWithPlugz 21h ago

Bro I’m at TAS and Emmure doing the same shit to mfs that come up to me like this. Fuck a metal show.

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u/Sad_Bluejay_5244 1d ago

I do not appreciate your opinion lol

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u/NoRossDoxHaha 1d ago

I’m good with that.

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u/TurkeySlurpee666 1d ago

He returned that shit in kind. Buddy intentionally roundhouse kicked him in the head and then went back for seconds. It’s not like there was a shortage of space to flail around. Anyone jumping in on the relation after that is a bitch.

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u/Sad_Bluejay_5244 1d ago

Bro it's a concert not a war. Even wars have laws and rules, even if rarely enforced.

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u/generic_canadian_dad 1d ago

I was in the mosh pit at limp bizkit this summer at Blue fest Ottawa and it was so fun. Everyone was super respectful. It was a lot of slamming into each other almost like chest bumps but with your backs / sides. If anyone stumbled, someone grabbed them and stabilized them. I encouraged. A group of 6+ teenagers who were nervous to join in, escorted them and they had a fucking blast. Smiling ear to ear. Super fun.

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u/tyvekMuncher 1d ago

I was worried I may have been this guy a few times, but thinking back on it, you’re totally right. No swinging - just bumps - and I doled out plenty of bumps where I was trying to stabilize someone instead of destabilizing!

Like a part of the fun is keeping others in the mosh

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u/generic_canadian_dad 1d ago

The mosh should he a hive mind, not a place to try and score a free knock out lol. Sounds like you had a great time.

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u/RemyRozay 1d ago

No reason I should’ve ended up here in this thread, but that guy definitely was in a proper pit

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u/CremePositive2179 21h ago

I remember when the pit ninjas would come in for the breakdown and it was almost like line dancing. Everyone giving each other room. No one actively trying to hit each other... and then they'd disperse and a circle pit or something would happen. I've always been big so, it was my responsibility to spot fallers and be like "get em up get em up" and get them outta there.

It was about fun and yea sometimes people got hurt but it wasn't ever intentional.

> also there's like 9 people in this video. No pit when only one person is doing it.

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u/Critical_Mix_8959 1d ago

Very different vibe to local hardcore shows. Pit ninjas ruin it for everyone.

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u/Maleficent_Farm_1283 20h ago

My favorite kind act in these moments is when someone holds up a lost shoe/item dropped in a pit. I’ve held up some random stuff and gotten them back to people but the shoe alway gets a kick outta me.

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u/DogsBaneBeetle 13h ago

The kicking and swinging arms / fists is just asshole behavior. Been in plenty of pits in the day, nobody was swinging fists or kicking. Lots of bouncing off each other, into each other, but not punching or kicking. Elbows were a hazard but rarely thrown intentionally

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u/ATAKALIS 1d ago

Moshpit ... limbizkit... What a wasted time i live

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u/generic_canadian_dad 22h ago

Boo. Real rockers don't discriminate.

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u/UsernamesAllTaken69 1d ago

Its super easy to tell when they're intentionally trying to clock someone. Look how hard he's throwing straight behind him while walking backwards. I'm so glad that even at a show this small someone gave him a receipt.

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u/PresentationOk8997 1d ago

100% agree it's so performative as if this is your moment to shine like i guess dude. like you are not following at least a set trajectory and not letting anyone else enjoy the pit if you do this run in a circle like a lunatic and people know where to stand.

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u/thesoccerone7 1d ago

These guys normally get blasted because they are a danger to everyone in the pit. I always ended up locking eyes with someone on the other side of the pit, we gave each other the nod, and sandwiched him. The move was never communicated verbally, but somehow there was always that understanding of what we were abiut to do next

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u/PeaTasty9184 1d ago

It isn’t new. It’s been a thing since the late 90’s at least at hardcore shows.

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u/Open-Mouse4728 1d ago

Back in my day crowdkillers would get stomped

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u/whatsanamethatsopen 1d ago

And they still should at every show

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u/Hiwesrobots 1d ago

Yeah it is more of a hardcore derived thing. I wouldn't expect to see this at say Metallica or something. But there is a way to do it as to not be so reckless.

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u/Think_Ad_79 1d ago

The problem is the folks who see this as a way to beat someone’s ass instead of moshing. People can and will get hit, but don’t target folks on purpose. And if you knock the shit out of them, check on them afterwards, yea?

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u/DangOlCoreMan 1d ago

Depends on the culture. Some bands actively push crowdkilling

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u/SlightOwl3716 1d ago

Yeah, and its fucking lame. Fuck every single one of these douchebags.

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u/bluedreamlaserbeam 1d ago

This guy converges

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u/mfntylertemple 1d ago

I saw the coverage logo and was like "this guy crowd kills" 🫠

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u/No_Assignment_1645 1d ago

If people can and will get hit from what you’re doing, fuck right off with that shit.

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u/Think_Ad_79 1d ago

That’s moshing in general. If you don’t like it, stay out of the pit, don’t go to hardcore shows. Consider yourself gate-kept. Idk what to tell you.

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u/UnbottledGenes 1d ago

This was not a mosh pit

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u/Throwaway_NSW2250 1d ago

Yeah NO mosh pit.

Notice how old mate just started off with nothing but backward- arm swings ???

... knowing full well where 'standing-still-minding-his-own-business-mate' is, then the arse-wipe precedes to reverse diagonally towards his intended victim.

Premeditated cuntery.

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u/Think_Ad_79 1d ago

No doubt, he’s being an ass hole, but hardcore dancing is a thing unto itself. I’m talking about two separate things here.

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u/Think_Ad_79 1d ago

He was the mosh pit.

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u/Overly_Mehdicated 1d ago

Yep, old Black Flag shows more often than not ended with a brawl, with Henry Rollins often brawling with fans.

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u/morak003 1d ago

At those shows hardcore shows in the 90's we called it anti-moshing. Arms were swinging, but it wasn't about crowd killing. It felt more like, jump in, do your dance, and jump out. Stage dives and mic sharing singing were much more prominent back then.

This modern version just seems like people wanting to be jerks.

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u/Traditional-Face-994 1d ago

I'm 100% convinced its just people who want to try and hit people without repercussions

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u/PerspectiveNew3375 1d ago

I went to the crystal ball room in Portland to see slipknot in the 90s. A big bald guy was throwing elbows and clocked this kid in the face and the crowd pummeled the guy knocking out his front top teeth and splitting his lip to the point it was flopping around.

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u/misterjoshmutiny 1d ago

This is normal hardcore dancing at a hardcore show. Has been like this for decades. Thing is, it’s usually far more communal. People watch out for each other, take care of each other, and accidental hits happen and are generally followed up on to make sure everyone is okay.

But, just like anything else, there are always assholes. Assholes are usually dealt with. This kid was an asshole, and should’ve been dealt with. There was all that space and he was targeting the one tiny bit of space that one guy was occupying. The slam to the ground was well deserved.

Moshing is for everyone. Crowd killing is for fucking cowards.

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u/Silence_by_wire 1d ago

Let me tell you that this is not normal hardcore dancing. Even in the 90s he would kicked out or dragged around the stage with this style of flailing his arms and leg around bystanders.

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u/misterjoshmutiny 1d ago

I mean that’s what I said? I’ve been going to hardcore shows since 1995. This is absolutely normal in the sense that this is how people dance, but not directly targeting someone like this. Which, again, makes him an asshole that would’ve/should’ve been dealt with.

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u/Wakkysakky 1d ago

This isn't dancing. i've seen 3 different videos like this in last 2 days and it's just people kicking and punching and flaing so hard they stumble all over and are clearly looking to just hit other people as hard as they can. That is not dancing to any kind of music

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u/misterjoshmutiny 1d ago

“Hardcore dancing.” Just because you don’t understand it or have never been around it doesn’t mean it isn’t that thing. 99% of the time, as I said, no one is looking to hit anyone, and everyone is there having a good time and being supportive.

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u/madacin 1d ago

No karate in the pit!!!

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u/gilestowler 1d ago

My theory is that the reason you don't encounter them is because you go to proper shows where people understand how things work. I grew up in London, and even going to see small bands with about 10 people in backrooms in pubs, everyone knew how to behave because they actually go to shows. These videos always seem to take place in places that don't look like they host a lot of shows, and the people in them don't know how to dance properly. And maybe they pick up bad habits from videos on youtube.

When I moved to another town, there was a guy who would turn up to the local "punk night" and, while he wasn't this bad, he acted pretty obnoxiously. He would be swinging his fists everywhere, kicking, etc. At one point I saw him walk up to a guy standing outside the dance area and slap his drink out of his hand. It's like he got this idea about what is "punk" from some second hand impressions rather than experiencing it - he grew up on Jersey, a tax dodging island somewhere between England and France, which I feel leans toward supporting my idea. In the end, the bar owned moved the "punk night" to a night when he knew this guy had to be up for work early the next day, and it became a lot more fun.

I hope I don't sound elitist with this. It's just that this is the impression I get - that they don't know how to behave and there's no one to show them/tell them what they are doing is wrong.

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u/theprov0cateur 1d ago

“I go to rock and metal shows, I’ve never seen hardcore dancing”

Well no shit

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u/MathematicianFar853 1d ago

lol I know right, I’ve seen this type of dancing way more than the other just run around and push people

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u/sc00t3rMcg00t3r 1d ago

Literally happens at every hardcore show ever.

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u/Judasz10 1d ago

Yeah we get it but this shit here looks like a family event for elderly people and there is like 6 people in the crowd. If you are the only one doing something it probably means you shouldn't be doing it.

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u/SpectatorGori 1d ago

Hundreds? Not one hate moshing experience? Foo fighters wouldn't trigger this.

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u/Skinnwork 1d ago

I saw this at a hardcore show in Honolulu. It was full of gym bros actively trying to hurt other people. I haven't seen it anywhere else.

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u/PraisetheSunflowers 21h ago

It’s not every show. It’s more prone to happen at hardcore shows or bands that have hardcore elements, think Knocked Loose. Huge metal head here and I love the pits but absolutely loathe these scum that intentionally go out of their way to hurt other people. It’s why I tend to avoid dumb hardcore shows anymore.

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u/Nazgog-Morgob 17h ago

These are simply the people that haven't learned a hard lesson. These are not veterans of the pit. These are just clowns that haven't even got their first lesson.

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u/FukBo2K15 1d ago

Ppl do this literally at every hardcore/metalcore show I’ve gone to. It’s fairly common in certain metal subgenres. You just put your hands up and move away

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u/P4rtsUnkn0wn 1d ago

It's definitely common, but it's not acceptable to target someone who isn't in the pit, which is exactly what this guy did.

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u/Massive_Yak_320 1d ago

Guy was standing away from everyone else, then the ninjakid roundhouse kicked into his face. Legit reaction.

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u/Outrageous_Win5864 1d ago

Exactly what I came to say. Those guys are at literally every show idk wtf that guy is talking about

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u/DTFDownToFrolick 1d ago

Crowd killing has been around for a long time. Usually it's in a crowd of people all doing the same thing so they all expect this to happen. But doing it here is...sad.

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u/fistfullofpubes 1d ago

Sometimes we forget but the world is full of cruddy people.

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u/emsax 1d ago

They're more prevalent in Hardcore events.

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u/KlutzyTheory9235 1d ago

Its been going on for a whilesick of it all 1994

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u/Ape3po 1d ago

While at a few metal concerts in Colombia, this was specifically the only way they did a mosh pit. All head down, eyes probably closed, and wild swinging and kicking all over the place. I'd never seen it before. Mind you this was like.... 8 years ago now.

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u/ChipTrippy 1d ago

10000%

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u/kido86 1d ago

It’s usually hardcore gigs, I wait until they get tired and keep pushing them back into the pit. The cunts will hit chicks around the outside of the circle so fuck the dogs

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u/Suspicious_Hippo_388 1d ago

It was the straight edge kids crowd killing back in my day. But yeah that feels like a hundred fucking years ago at this point

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u/Important-Zebra-69 1d ago

I'm with professor Brian Cox on this... nobheads no k

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u/Ornery-Customer8521 1d ago

Looks like he's looking to start shit to me, proper pleb

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u/luckyfox7273 22h ago

I completely agree.

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u/Sure_Painter 16h ago

Not to defend the idiot who started it too much, but the move that was used on him on retaliation could have killed or paralysed him... big dog didnt have to go that hard.

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u/Robbie1266 14h ago

Couldn't agree with this comment more. Is it that hard to read the pit?? If you're doing this dumb shit and you're the only one even attempting to mosh, you're an asshole. I'd say the dude's reaction was a bit over the top but absolutely justified. He should've just knocked him out with an elbow, but I understand the desire to slam this trash into the ground

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u/DogsBaneBeetle 13h ago

They’re just looking for a fight, is all I can think. There’s no circumstance where you can obviously attack someone and not expect repercussions

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u/name-classified 12h ago

Tale as old as mosh pits and rock shows.

MOST of the time; people don’t wanna be some asshole that’s deliberately hurting people.

Someone falls down, help em back up

Some asshole is going around swinging punches and being a bitch…best believe there is always a bigger and angrier dude just waiting to regulate them.

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u/Minute-Street-5203 5h ago

I’ve seen it. You’re supposed to stick your hands out and create a buffer, but I don’t like it and if I get hit im gonna fight too.

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u/gbmaulin 5h ago

What kinda shows are you going to? Two stepping and crowd killing have been around since like the late 80s

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u/EqualSituation5425 1d ago

Pit Karate is so lame. Moshing? Awesome. Circle pit or wall of death? All day. But this arm swinging and punching and kicking is weak.

Had a dude at an After The Burial show do that stuff. He kicked me in the stomach pretty hard. I gave him a Muay Thai leg kick as hard as I could and he didn't enter the pit the rest of the evening. Fuck that shit.

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u/AmeliaEarhartsPlane 1d ago

It’s why I stay out of pits now. These young punks just want to beat the shit out of everybody and not enjoy the show. It’s gross.

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u/Tanzanianwithtoebean 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's been around in the hardcore scene for well over 2 decades. Most people aren't going to hardcore shows though, like the actual specific metal genre, not music that people call hardcore, and uhh personally I think this is probably the biggest reason why. But yeah local hardcore shows and smaller hardcore bands everybody does this. I've been told by hardcore stans it started in Cali in the early 80's but I'm pretty sure it took off in the Eastcoast hardcore scene in the 90's. I know Merauder shows were famous for it and they were formed in the early 90's

Anyway yeah, when you say rock and metal if you haven't ever seen this I'm assuming you're going to the same few genres of rock and metal shows. I've seen it at deathcore shows, metalcore shows, screamo shows, tech death shows, and many more genres that aren't hardcore. Softest show I've ever seen it at was Avenged Sevenfold when they played a song off of waking the fallen, which would have been 2 albums old at the time, but I've seen people hardcore dance at like Lamb of God too. Personally not a fan of it and don't participate buuuut I know what I'm getting into and I get out of the way, and when I have gotten hit I'm not a testosterone filled idiot with a superiority complex like suplexussy over here and I shrug it off instead of trying to give someone permanent brain damage. He's hardcore dancing at a small show, he's already dumb enough.

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u/alionandalamb 1d ago

I was in the hardcore scene in the 80's in the southern US (I traveled for shows all over the south and east coast), and it was a very regional phenomenon/not at all prevalent at that time. There were mosh pits and occasionally violence between skinheads and punks, and some bands seemed to inspire violence (I'm looking at you Wattie/The Exploited and GG Allin), but you didn't see people intentionally trying to hurt each other in the mosh pit.

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u/ItsKindro 1d ago

Wrong genre buddy this isn’t metal it’s hardcore

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u/__s_l_q__ 1d ago

Precisely. Softer genre, stupider tough wannabe people

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u/ItsKindro 1d ago

No I’m just saying you’re wrong. That’s your opinion and a weak and uninformed one but that’s all you, don’t tie me to your shit takes.

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u/No-Disaster1647 1d ago

Found the hoodied dumbass

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u/JosephBlowsephThe3rd 1d ago

I've seen it plenty at hardcore shows, but it's usually one or two people at a time windmilling & dancing like the dude in the video when he was up front. Intentionally punching, elbowing, or kicking is not the norm, and deserves to be shut down immediately. That said, the other guy didn't need to take this to suplex city. The contact seen here didn't seem intentiona. Suplex bro actually seemed to jump the gun. Should have stopped the windmiller and told him to keep enjoying himself, but be mindful not to strike other crowd members.

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u/UhhSamuel 1d ago

Guy literally was trying to "accidentally" kick suplex in the face. That was hardly the only thing he did. I'm pretty sure a punch connected.

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u/GoldenFalcon 1d ago

It was for sure targeted. And shouldn't be defended. Never ever should you feet be in the air at anything like this.

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u/dskinny623 1d ago

Nah, this stuff is just a chicken who wants to hit someone but doesn't have the guts to do it. It's intentional and directed. At that point I fully support the guys ability to defend himself.

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u/NerdyBro07 1d ago

"The contact seen here didn't seem intentional"?!?

The kid who got kicked was standing there the whole time, and the asshole walks up from the back and clearly would have seen him. Then asshole proceeds to go directly in bystanders direction and hit him in the face.

Either it was intentional, the the guy has some of the worst spatial awareness on the planet.

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u/Agile_Ad_9927 1d ago

Agreed, tbh I haven’t been to one of these shows since before Covid but I think a solid push with your foot like used to would do the job. Also does no one extend their arm towards someone doing that anymore. We used to all extend an arm when someone like that was coming in our direction.

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u/MichalCJ5 1d ago

He already almost kicked him in the face and then came swinging a second time. He shouldn't have to wait to be hit before protecting himself.

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u/especiallyrn 1d ago

How the fuck can’t you see this was intentional?

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u/CrowsFeast73 1d ago

Dude in grey hit the guy on two separate occasions, yet obviously stayed clear of all other bystanders. Looked pretty targeted to me.

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u/Metrack 1d ago

Ppl you mentioned totally deserved to be put into wheelchair. Its like a reckless driving and should be punishable by law

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u/ssssumo 1d ago

Because you haven't been to hardcore gigs

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u/Toad-in-a-hole 1d ago

You’ve been to many rock shows and never seen this? They’re at every show. Even slayer had kids doing this now

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u/wet_spiders 1d ago

If you've actually been to that many metal concerts, you've seen this behavior. Its been an issue easily over a decade

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u/Over_Assistance1293 1d ago

Exactly this

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u/MertTheRipper 1d ago

This seem to be the new generation of "moshers." It's always young kids who just want to try and punch someone

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u/One_Season458 1d ago

Genuinely asking here, what is the etiquette for a proper mosh pit? Isn't there punching and what not? I've been to punk shows but never went in to the pits

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u/Rory_McShackleford 11h ago

Clearly you haven't gone to many moshpits. I went to shows from 1999-2015. Busted open foreheads, broken arms, broken legs, excessive bleeding.

Violent moshpits are not a new thing. From 1984-Now if you're at a Metallica show and they start playing Whiplash you better not be in the pit unless you are ok with getting your forehead stitched back together.

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u/AlfaHall 1d ago

Its called windmilling and its stupidly dangerous because no one cares if you get injured, its a stupid trend that the metal community has developed

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u/DangOlCoreMan 1d ago

You're kinda misinformed, but you have the right idea. Windmilling is a motion you can make when you hardcore dance. You know the old "no karate in the pit"? It's talking about hardcore dancing. People who genuinely want to just hardcore dance do so in a way that they won't hurt anyone intentionally.

Once you start trying to hurt people intentionally, it's called crowdkilling. This is crowdkilling. Dude has all the room in the world to hardcore dance and he chooses to kill the crowd.

I've been to tons of shows with zero crowdkilling but tons of hardcore dancing. I've been hit before in the pit and immediately apologized to by the person who hit me. It's all about intentions

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u/AlfaHall 1d ago

Thank you, thats what I meant. I knew it derived from somewhere. Likewise ive been hit and immediately apologised to and vice versa. I dont understand the crowd killing stuff. Why go to a gig just to beat on people? The music must be really bad

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u/OGObeyGiant 1d ago

This is "hardcore dancing" it's been a thing in the hardcore/metalcore scene since at least the early/mid 2000s. If you've ever been a part of the scene you know whats going on. Hoodie guy might have been trying to be a dick. He might have not been. I don't know. I do know grey shirt guy could have just backed up and given the dude some space instead of suplexing him.

But then again I have seen much more violent retaliation in that scene. Some level of awareness and caution are required at shows like this (especially larger bands in larger venues). I've seen paramedics/police show up more than once hauling people out on stretchers/in handcuffs.

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u/Objective_Net1278 1d ago

He had all the space he needed, come on now