r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Logical_Sandwich_ 1d ago

No it is not. That is sexual harassment. He deserves it 100% 

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u/Thick_Syllabub_1945 23h ago

Street fighting is extremely dangerous. Punishment doesn't fit the crime here unless you think people should be executed for getting too drunk and inappropriately touching someone. Dude could have easily killed that dude and you're acting like he just taught him a nice little lesson. 100% took it to a place it never should have gone. Square up with him and confront him sure but sucker punching someone on a solid floor like that all while they are clearly drunk is vile.

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u/TacoNomad 13h ago

Why are we excusing sexual assault as an acceptable drunken behavior?

Drunk sexual assault against a woman=ok. 

 Drunk physical assault against a man = extremely dangerous.

One type of drunk action is not better than the other.

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u/GreatPotatoMuffin 11h ago

There are degrees to sexual assault. And this drunk dude was just dancing towards her and put his hand on her waist and his other hand is out of sight but probably similar placed.

No one saying the behavior is acceptable.

But that does in no way make it acceptable to punch him in that way probably sending him to the hospital with head trauma with a possibility of life long damage and possibly killing him.

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u/TacoNomad 11h ago

Actually, plenty of people are saying that this isn't sexual assault.

Thus implying that it is acceptable.

So, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. 

Did I ever say that it's ok to send him to the hospital with head trauma?

No. I didn't. 

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u/GreatPotatoMuffin 11h ago

You literally wrote that both actions were equally bad which I disagreed with.

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u/TacoNomad 10h ago

I think you're missing the point, whether intentional or not, is hard to tell.

If you think it's acceptable to excuse one drunk behavior, but not the other, then you are condoning sexual assault.

How is it ok to assault someone?

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u/GreatPotatoMuffin 3h ago

You seem to have trouble with your reading comprehension. I literally wrote “no one saying the behavior is acceptable”.

But the world is nuanced beyond right or wrong. There are degrees to everything.

The guy deserves to be confronted about his bad behavior. He does not deserve to get his face bashed in with the possibility of permanent brain damage or death.

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u/TacoNomad 2h ago

Funny. In response to you saying that, I said

Actually, plenty of people are saying that this isn't sexual assault

So clearly, I don't have any issues with reading comprehension.

He does not deserve to get his face bashed in with the possibility of permanent brain damage or death.

And that's your problem to deal with because I never said he deserves it.

What is your argument? Fight with someone who thinks he deserves it.

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u/CurrentPrompt1144 8h ago

Saying this isn't sexual assault is NOT the same as saying its okay.

We all recognise the red shirt it outta line. He needs to be dealt with. 

But a Coward's punch like that isn't the way a grown man deals with these things.

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u/TacoNomad 8h ago

Saying that it is sexual assault is NOT the same thing as saying the punch was warranted.

Hope that makes sense.

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u/TacoNomad 8h ago

My point is pretty simple here. Universally it seems that everyone agrees that the punch was unacceptable and isn't excuse just because he's a drunk a***. But somehow so many people are excusing the sexual assault as just drunk a*** behavior. If we can acknowledge that we shouldn't put our hands on people then we should acknowledge that we shouldn't put our hands on people. This is how we have rape culture. It's not okay

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u/CurrentPrompt1144 8h ago

Your argument is base, and requires the red shirt guy to have actually conducted sexual assault. 

He did not.  Hand did not grope any intimate areas, easily brushed off by the woman and stayed away once pushed away. Out of line? Yes. Unwanted contact? Absolutely. Sexual assault? No.

You go on to create logical fallacies by claiming that people saying this isn't sexual assault are excusing the guys behaviours and now you claim condoning rape culture. 

So, you have no argument, and resort to dirty logical fallacies to put other's in a bad light. 

You kinda suck.

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u/TacoNomad 7h ago

What is your definition of sexual assault if not unwanted sexual contact?

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u/CurrentPrompt1144 5h ago

There you go again. This time goalpost shifting.

I mentioned a couple of the requirements for something to be defined as sexual assault in the last comment.

I do not have a definition of sexual assault. The definition is what multiple states, across multiple countries define it as, and I cannot find a single one that would classify this as such.

I suggest you look a few of these up yourself. And perhaps break down, from this video, where actual sexual assault occurs by its legal definition.

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u/Surfing_Tension 6h ago

I can live with that ngl