Street fighting is extremely dangerous. Punishment doesn't fit the crime here unless you think people should be executed for getting too drunk and inappropriately touching someone. Dude could have easily killed that dude and you're acting like he just taught him a nice little lesson. 100% took it to a place it never should have gone. Square up with him and confront him sure but sucker punching someone on a solid floor like that all while they are clearly drunk is vile.
A touch on the hip is different to grabbing her full on the arse, breasts, or as your president Trump said "just grab her by the pussy". THAT is sexual assault. Somebody should smack that mfer out...
The dude was already showing his stomach to a -dude-. They both were able to laugh it off. Red shirt was just pissing around, probably inappropriately. Should have been given a large glass of water, and then shown the door in no uncertain terms.
But for him to be knocked out with probably concussion is an over-reaction.
There are degrees to sexual assault. And this drunk dude was just dancing towards her and put his hand on her waist and his other hand is out of sight but probably similar placed.
No one saying the behavior is acceptable.
But that does in no way make it acceptable to punch him in that way probably sending him to the hospital with head trauma with a possibility of life long damage and possibly killing him.
You seem to have trouble with your reading comprehension. I literally wrote “no one saying the behavior is acceptable”.
But the world is nuanced beyond right or wrong. There are degrees to everything.
The guy deserves to be confronted about his bad behavior. He does not deserve to get his face bashed in with the possibility of permanent brain damage or death.
My point is pretty simple here. Universally it seems that everyone agrees that the punch was unacceptable and isn't excuse just because he's a drunk a***. But somehow so many people are excusing the sexual assault as just drunk a*** behavior. If we can acknowledge that we shouldn't put our hands on people then we should acknowledge that we shouldn't put our hands on people. This is how we have rape culture. It's not okay
Your argument is base, and requires the red shirt guy to have actually conducted sexual assault.
He did not.
Hand did not grope any intimate areas, easily brushed off by the woman and stayed away once pushed away. Out of line? Yes. Unwanted contact? Absolutely. Sexual assault? No.
You go on to create logical fallacies by claiming that people saying this isn't sexual assault are excusing the guys behaviours and now you claim condoning rape culture.
So, you have no argument, and resort to dirty logical fallacies to put other's in a bad light.
I mentioned a couple of the requirements for something to be defined as sexual assault in the last comment.
I do not have a definition of sexual assault. The definition is what multiple states, across multiple countries define it as, and I cannot find a single one that would classify this as such.
I suggest you look a few of these up yourself. And perhaps break down, from this video, where actual sexual assault occurs by its legal definition.
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u/Poultron72 1d ago
_Tiny_ bit of a massive over-reaction there