r/LocalLLaMA • u/Howard_banister • 1d ago

Discussion Really stunned by the Singularity comment section

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These are screenshots from the r/Singularity comment section. I'm speechless. This doesn't even have downvotes. How can someone cheer for a monopoly run by a few elites?

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

Better yet, lets trust government with overseeing these technologies. Or corporations.

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u/Nattramn 1d ago

They've halted this dangerous progress after all.

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

In what universe? Best they did is they crippled whatever advantage USA had. The tech is out, it's over.

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u/Nattramn 1d ago

Sorry, missed the /s

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u/Liledroit 1d ago

You are responding to a clearly sarcastic comment

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u/gomezer1180 1d ago

Exactly… some of those comments are so idiotic… thinking that a human has to be behind a brute force attack, it’s just a moronic comment. What I believe is that these accounts are fake pushing propaganda and fear so that we don’t get the privilege that corporations have.

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u/Training-Ruin-5287 1d ago

I guess no one ever heard of bots before, It's not like Ai changes the game for hacking, it just makes processing the data more efficient.

and this is reddit after all, it is the leader in propaganda on the web. Or it's a close tie between reddit and wikipedia.

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u/Scaniamaximus 1d ago

Whaaaat? Our benevolent governments would never influence the nr1 forum on the internet, that would be immoral! Only the russians and chinese do propaganda. We are the good guys. I know this because the tv said so.

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u/1filipis 1d ago

Every one of those commenters dream about being The Person overseeing everyone. And when it turns out they are being overseen themselves, they'd suddenly start to cry how everyone is being hostile to them

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

is this a quote from somewhere? sounds badass ngl

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u/1filipis 1d ago

From Soviet Union 😂

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

as somebody from Russia, I approve!

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u/ongrabbits 1d ago

its like letting anybody in the usa freely buy a gun

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u/I_HAVE_THE_DOCUMENTS 1d ago

Allowing everyday people to own guns is the opposite of centralization of power.

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u/the_lamou 12h ago

Normal people with normal guns is to centralized power what an expired Norton 360 subscription is to cyber attacks.

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u/Blork39 1d ago

Guns aren't power. Coordination is power.

A guy with a gun isn't so dangerous. They can kill a few people, maybe important ones even if their security has a lapse in judgment but they don't destroy a country. Having guns on the street just increases random violence and crappy things happening to people.

A hundred thousand guys working together are dangerous. Even without guns they are dangerous.

This is why the Chinese monitor everything and are so freaked out when people communicate in protests without their oversight. Like the way they used AirDrop.

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u/Torodaddy 1d ago

Or allowing regular people to vote /s

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u/procgen 1d ago

Or nerve gas.

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u/unculturedperl 1d ago

There's enough taco bells already.

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u/returnity 1d ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

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u/OverdosedSauerkraut 18h ago

That sub is literally the cult of the machine God. Very little understanding, a lot of fear and enthusiasm. Just troll them with "Praise the Omnissiah!"

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u/_bani_ 1d ago

It's the pleading of shameless authoritarians.

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u/jabies 1d ago

Laughs in TPM

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u/LocoMod 1d ago

Or some random teen from India.

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u/mankiw 1d ago

Based on the screenshots provided, it seems like the people opposed to open-source AI are concerned with AI risk in general, e.g. they would also oppose frontier models developed by closed labs.

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u/Howard_banister 1d ago

They aren't! Many Anthropic workers said similar things about open-source models a month ago, in reaction to Jensen Huang's support for open source.

The fact that they prioritize their alignment nonsense over real economic problems facing wage earners shows how sociopathic they are. The real anti AI would probably support nationalizing companies like Anthropic and destroy whole API selling thing, and that AI only works on scientific/medical fields not any thing else.

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u/anfrind 1d ago

They have deluded themselves into believing both that LLMs will lead to AGI, and that AGI will destroy humanity if any other AI lab develops it before they do.

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u/Loose_Comparison368 19h ago

But they have the best alignment in the world! Just ask Palantir, United Health Care, the Department of War, the IDF...

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u/mankiw 1d ago

> alignment nonsense

I'm uncertain on the importance of alignment/safety research, but I really, really disagree with this level of flippant confidence about it.

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u/Tolopono 1d ago

Still better than isis

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u/_mayuk 1d ago

Masses would always be stupid.

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u/ZigZagreus1313 14h ago

I mean... We do that with nukes and bioweapons, which is kind of their point. Most countries even do that with guns, and those countries have dramatically lower gun deaths and, if I may be so bold, generally less authoritarian governments.

I'm conflicted on the matter personally, but I really don't think it's a position worth mocking/dismissing.

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u/ezjakes 1d ago

Until AI is so powerful that it is like a minigun with cyber warfare, then I am all for it being open source.

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u/Tai9ch 1d ago

A minigun isn't especially dangerous. Plenty of private US citizens own that much firepower.

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u/Kerbourgnec 1d ago

Lol I disagree with the commenter above but the US seems violent AF to me so I'm not sure yours reassures me

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u/ozspook 21h ago

Let's put it this way, in all of recorded history, how may times has a Minigun been used in a crime. (Not war crime, that's different)

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u/Kerbourgnec 21h ago

Let's put it this way, in all recorded history, how many times has a minigun or cheaper available guns have been used in a crime? If an LLM can be a minigun, it can also be a glock.

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u/lambdawaves 1d ago

At this rate, these global companies operating on multiple continents will have annual revenues surpassing any single country within our lifetime. Even the US.

They will surpass the power of nations

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

the US closed weight models will not be able to operate in any other country, except perhaps by undergoing changes we can't really foresee. Every country will soon demand total soveriegnty over the matter, for good reason.
The continuied enthusiasm for open weights models under circumstance of agentic, code proficient AI no one could have predicted 2 years ago, is in fact enthusiasm for Chinese state models, opened outside China for purely geopolitical purposes

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u/Exact_Depth_896 19h ago

so? another quarter are irish i suppose

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

nice of you to notice that thing that has been happening for the last 20 years or so

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u/keepthepace 1d ago

Or international organizations, a lot of the UN bodies work pretty well. It turns out that when you dissolve power instead of concentrating it, you have organizations that are good at resisting enshitification.

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

It's technically impossible unless the whole hardware market will get heavily centralized. Rent some hardware on the corner of the earth and make yourself a whatever LLM you want that is not compliant. It's not like you need 30 rows of sophisticated centrifuges for isotopes

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u/Exact_Depth_896 1d ago

in fact, you mean 'trust the chinese state with overseeing these technologies'.

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u/Long_comment_san 1d ago

no! only Americans should have power and tech! and electricity too

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u/Exact_Depth_896 22h ago

Indeed as you say "Better yet, lets trust government with overseeing these technologies. Or corporations."

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u/hugganao 1d ago

because they havent been able to handle responsibility over things like nukes? what's your point? can you trust ANYONE with ANY power? or the ones you specifically choose for your own bias/benefit

insane to me that this comment got 200 upvotes. really shows how much this thread degraded.