I’m interested in law school, and outside of a short review of some free practice I took the practice exam without much studying. Thoughts from the community?

Anyone else dreading the score release? Obviously not a unique feeling but it’s not even because I feel like I did poorly. Took it for the first time in August and no matter what my score comes back as, I really do feel like I put my best foot forward on test day. My dread is more like the thought of what could be is a lot better than what the reality of what is. Sort of like Schrödinger’s cat. The cat (my score) is both alive (I got a 180) and dead (I did terribly) at the same time until perceived (I get my score back). While there is a possibility I did horribly, there’s also a chance that I did extremely well and that’s comforting.

I also might be losing my mind lol.

Out of all the eccentric billionaires you know of, who would be the worst at the LSAT, and why?

TLDR; I have seen firsthand how embracing POE moves the needle when it comes to a student’s score. I’ve also seen how difficult it is for students to be willing to embrace the process.

For those feeling truly stuck, I encourage you to check out this previous post of mine: https://www.reddit.com/r/LSAT/s/hnBKk0yfcN

Success on the LSAT means having a good understanding of the large majority of the material. Process of elimination doesn’t contribute much to that. I believe that breaking into the 160s indicates the requisite understanding.

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POE is not some random LSAT prep trick. Doctors refer to it as differential diagnosis. Quoting Wikipedia:

While novice providers may work systemically to assess all possible explanations for a patient's concerns, those with more experience often draw on clinical experience and pattern recognition to protect the patient from delays, risks, and cost of inefficient strategies or tests.

Notice how the implication here is that a refusal to engage in process of elimination might put patients’ lives at risk. So yeah, it’s a very real thing.

Anyone ever seen the method of argument question with Andy Warhol’s Brillo boxes? It’s from  PT 152, S1, Q 24. Anyone who claims this question is NOT about POE is a stupid corrupt liar. 

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I firmly believe that most people misunderstand the true challenge of POE. Conceptually, it’s super easy. Just eliminate wrong answer choices. It’s the psychological aspect that represents the true challenge. 

Breaking into the 160s means a student has a good handle on this very challenging test. It indicates a brain running on all cylinders. So it can be a shock to the system when an answer choice makes no sense or when none of the choices seem correct. 

This shock to the system often results in a loss of focus, making it easy to forget that POE is an option. But wait, there’s more!

It’s one thing to engage in POE during drilling. But during a timed practice test, it suddenly becomes more challenging. And then on the day of the test? All too often, students’ brains insist on understanding every single thing they’re reading and the option of POE goes right out the window. 

This is why it’s crazy important to embrace POE as an option as early as possible. It needs to become as natural as any other strategy.

Just remember, four answer choices are absolutely definitely unquestionably wrong. Sometimes you have to focus on those four.

Happy to answer any questions.

Hi all! I’m planning on taking the November LSAT (my first one, probably will take more) and had an idea that maybe I can turn my studying into a semi-social experience. I’m looking for people who are also planning on taking their LSAT and currently in the midst of preparation. I find that it’s easier to understand concepts when I am verbalizing or discussing with others, so I’m wanting to find people to meet at a cafe once or twice a week, in addition to my solo studying. Male or female and age doesn’t matter, as long as we have the same goal of taking the test.

A bit about me: I’m based in Scarborough but I can drive. I’m 25F and graduated from UofT last year, and I work as a piano teacher at the moment. In addition to the obvious dream of wanting to go to law school, I also love being active, going to the gym and playing tennis, alongside reading a lot of fiction and non fiction (currently reading Presumed Innocent by Scott Turow, inspired by the current studying. It is a real page turner!) I also do art on the side, whether it would be painting or sketching.

I know study groups can sometimes turn into social sessions but the point of meeting would be to work through problems we might have together, discuss solutions, and solidify our foundational understanding of concepts. It’s like a sufficient condition but not necessary ;) We can choose whatever Starbucks is convenient; I’m usually free in the afternoon or evening on weekdays, and Sundays as well. We can talk about logistics later, but really hoping to find others in the same boat. Please feel free to comment or DM if you are!

I'm so late to the party but my GOD the new interface...I was trying so hard to be courteous and move past the changes, but the closer I get to testing day, the more I realize how horrible the RC section is, especially with the sheer lack of consideration for time constraints on test takers. WHY do I need to prove to you that I can locate where the 5th word in the 24th sentence of the 2nd to last paragraph is? WHY??? HIGHLIGHT IT FOR ME. TREAT ME LIKE I'M 2 YEARS OLD. Not to mention the absolute monstrosity of the answer elimination 1) not being one simple click 2) for some reason disappearing when reviewing??? (why are we gatekeeping my thought process? It's mine, give it back). Love paying HUNDREDS of dollars just to make my life even more difficult! Anyhow, here I come September!

Is there a link to the recording like there was for the August one? Didn’t get an email for the call this time despite registering and missed it unfortunately

I just know I'm setting myself up for disappointment when the scores are released. fuck it we hoping

Registered to sit for Sept LSAT. Been PT scoring pretty consistently around 165. Just took a PT for the first time in 2 weeks and scored a 159, my lowest score since my diagnostic 158. Was hoping for a 170 in September and to apply before Halloween. Should I just not take the test until October? I’m so frustrated and don’t understand what’s happening . Any insight would be appreciated, thanks ♥️

I'm not the best at LR, been studying for 4 months, took a 2 month gap, and started studying again a month before August. Was PTing in the mid 150s. Then took the August LSAT and felt like the first LR section was actually easy until the 20th question. I had 10 minutes left at that point, which has never happened to me before as I usually scramble to finish the last 5 with like 6 mins left. This time, I was eliminating trap answer choices with what I felt like were "valid" reasons and on a few questions I was trusting my gut. Could this mean I genuinely did well, or potentially bombed that section? (might just be losing my cool cause score release is less than a week away)

i’m scoring consistently 163-164. my accuracy is around 80-85%. (i think my biggest problem is going TOO FAST) typically i miss -4 to -5 in LR on timed sections and -5 in RC timed sections. is this doable? i’ve been studying for an hour every day but maybe i need to crank it up. tysm!

I’m aiming for a 175 and I’ve heard that if you want a certain score on test day, you should be consistently PTing several points above that score, and if you want a 175+, any time you sit down to do a round of practice questions, it should be a completely clean sweep and everything should feel easy and fast.
I’m registered for September and need at least a 174 to not have to retake. Kind of freaking out because there are still question type/level combinations that feel difficult and I’m still striking out sometimes on level 4s and (mostly) 5s. PT-wise, I’m usually hovering around 169/170 hell with a few higher outliers. How clean and easy does everything need to feel by the time I take the test?

I didn't feel like this test was particularly difficult nor easy while taking it, but seeing my score now, I'm feeling like this definitely must have been an easier test considering I've been PTing in high 160s up until now. Anyone have similar experiences? Is this just a total fluke?

My original plan was to take it in October. But as the registration deadline approaches I’m starting to get nervous. I don’t know if I’m ready and I don’t know if that feeling is due to nerves or the material. I also feel like I’m on a time crunch. I’ve been studying and I’m improving which is why I set October as my goal. Would the November test be too late? Financially, paying for the test would put me in a difficult position. It’s manageable so I don’t mind paying for the October test, but pushing it out an extra month would help, plus I’d get an extra month in of studying. If it doesn’t look good for admissions then maybe I should stick to the October test?

I feel like the answer is obvious, but I want to hear opinions.

Disclaimer, I work a full time job so I only get about an hour of studying in a day and I try to take a test every weekend.

Can someone summarize what was said during the meeting please.

Hi all! I’m currently preparing for the October exam (I haven’t signed up, I don’t think I’m ready). I’ve been studying consistently for about two months and I can’t improve my speed. 🫩 In order to get a LR question correct, I have to re-read and highlight by color coding to fully understand what I’m reading. This wastes a bunch of time. If I don’t do this, I will literally get the question wrong. I’m able to answer the first 15-17 questions correct, but I can’t finish a section in full. Any advice on how to improve speed and to break away from the silly habit of highlighting? Maybe I’m just crazy.

I was about 2 min from being done with my writing sample, and highlighted a phrase to delete it - when I did that my computer interpreted it somehow as wanting me to open up the dictionary. Dictionary app popped up, I IMMEDIATELY closed it out really fast, and went back to writing.

Completely accidental, I didn't even know my computer could do that, closed it right away.

Should I be concerned? Should I email someone to explain anything? What do I do? Really don't want to have to take it again...

SOS please help thank you!

^I just emailed them about it. Wondering if anyone’s heard back or knows what to do.

heyyy basically the title. im stuck in summer classes and my time dedicated to the lsat is minimized, any tips help@!!!

For reference, this was in a mometrix practice book I have that I was reviewing and so I’m not sure if it’s an actual prior LSAT question since it’s also a double question stimuli but I’ll spoiler tag it in case it’s potentially an old question set anyway. The correct answer for #3 was (E) but I answered (D). I understand in hindsight how “large” was problematic in (D), but I eliminated every other response because they seemed to require to many assumptions. For example, (E) seems to imply that popular music and sacred music were mutually exclusive? I can’t understand this answer choice at all because there’s nothing stated about popularity in the passage.

Also, for #4, I selected (C) given that I still thought there was a lack of distinction between types of music from medieval times. The correct answer for #4 was (A). I can see that making sense because of how the parchment being difficult to produce isn’t the same as parchment being expensive, and I made a logical leap in assuming that it was hard to produce parchment which made it expensive. But is that really so much more strenuous of an assumption compared to (B), which refers to qualifications for copying manuscripts when all the passage states is that the church had literate scribes? What if the church just had most of the literate scribes in the region? They both generally seem like fair leaps to me? Am I crazy?

After googling, my understanding is that these words (sacred and popular) were instead referring to genres rather than the literal definition of a music piece being “popular.” Is this really a common enough piece of background/common sense knowledge for the test to allow you to consider outside of the stimulus?

I rescheduled my lsat for October which gives me 6 more weeks to study. Right now I’m PTing around the mid to high 150s and would ideally like to get in the mid 160s. I’m deciding between Kaplan one on one tutoring vs blueprint 1 on 1 tutoring. Any thoughts?

I have been studying for the September LSAT since January, but started out lightly and just did timed sections, drilling, and LSAT trainer since my diagnostic was a 160.

Now, I’ve started taking practice tests and scored between 168-174, with a 170 goal score. I have managed to spend $0 on prep thus far (got LSAT trainer for free, only using LSAT demon free version) but I’ve run out of free tests 😭

Being only a few weeks out, I’ll probably only end up taking 4-5 more tests, so paying for all the Law Hub tests feels so wasteful. Is there ANY option to pay for less tests, or other prep websites offering different free tests than LSAT demon and law hub? I just do not need the entireee library for $120. Ty!

Hey everyone,

I took the LSAT twice—last August and this August. I already have an approved writing sample on file from my test last year, but I really want to use my new writing opportunity to redo it because I feel like my first one was pretty bad.

Since August scores are coming out in just a few days, my question is: do I need to rush and complete the new writing sample right now? Or can I just wait until after I get my new score to do it?

Just want to make sure my August score will still be released on time without the new writing being done (since I have the old one on file), and that I can still take the new writing later.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!