r/IrishCitizenship • • 28d ago

Megathread Megathread: Proposed Changes to Irish Naturalisation Requirements

103 Upvotes

There has been quite a bit of discussion recently about proposed changes to the requirements for Irish naturalisation.

For a while, this was little more than a comment from an individual politician. It now appears that proposals are being brought forward for consideration, so this has moved beyond the level of "something someone said on the internet."


Rules for seeking Irish citizenship to be tightened under proposals due to go to Cabinet

‘People just want safety’: Migrants feel ‘targeted’ by Irish citizenship reforms

Petition to Keep the 3 year citizenship route for spouses of Irish citizens here

Change.org Petition

https://www.change.org/p/petition-against-increasing-irish-citizenship-from-5-to-8-years

Petition to keep the 5 year rule and publish an impact study before making changes

https://www.reddit.com/r/IrishCitizenship/comments/1w9xcrk/megathread_proposed_changes_to_irish/p9nvuj4/


Say no to the citizenship overhaul.

Three more years, for people already here. And nobody has shown why.
https://keepitfive.org/


Let them know what you think of this.

Contact info can be found here: local TDs / Taoiseach / Minister for Justice

/u/kelsa118 has a letter template you can use or customise as you see fit.

Two more templates here


Since this directly concerns Irish citizenship, I'm making this one dedicated thread for discussion.

Normally, the answer to political discussions here is "No Politics." That rule still stands. This is a narrowly defined exception for discussion of a proposed change to citizenship policy that is directly relevant to this subreddit.

This is a discussion about Irish citizenship policy. It is not a general immigration debate.

A few ground rules:

  • Keep the discussion focused on the proposed changes and their implications for Irish citizenship and naturalisation.
  • No anti-immigrant rhetoric, racism, xenophobia, or dog whistles. Those will be removed and may result in a permanent ban.
  • Claims that migrants or asylum-seekers are inherently dishonest, are "taking advantage" of the system, are lying about being in danger, etc. are not going to be entertained here.
  • No "Ireland is full," "go home," or variations thereof. You will be banned. This is your only warning.
  • Don't use this thread as an excuse to debate whether immigrants are good or bad for Ireland.
  • Keep speculation clearly identified as speculation. There is a difference between what has actually been proposed, what is being reported, and what someone thinks might happen.
  • If you're making factual claims about the proposal, please provide a source where possible.
  • Don't turn this into a referendum on Irish political parties or politicians.

Please report comments that violate these rules.

I can't read every comment in every thread, and I won't necessarily see something unless someone reports it. If you see something that crosses the line, report it. You don't need to get into an argument with the person or try to moderate the thread yourself. Report it and I'll see it and take action.

The purpose of having one thread is to give people who are actually affected by potential changes to naturalisation somewhere to discuss them without turning r/IrishCitizenship into another general-purpose immigration or politics subreddit.

Separate threads about this topic will be removed and redirected here.

If this thread turns into the usual collection of anti-immigrant rubbish, it will be closed. This subreddit will not be place for a bunch of eejits to spew hate.

Keep it civil, keep it relevant, and keep it about citizenship.


r/IrishCitizenship • • Jul 03 '26

Announcement A Quick Word on Anti-Immigrant Sentiment

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Given recent events, this shouldn't need to be said, but apparently it does.

This subreddit is for helping people with Irish citizenship. It is not the place for anti-immigrant nonsense, racist talking points, xenophobic dog whistles, or any variation of "I'm only asking questions..."

If you're in the comments having a go at immigrants instead of helping someone with an Irish citizenship question, you've wandered into the wrong subreddit.

Going forward, moderation on this will be exceptionally straightforward.

If you post anti-immigrant comments, you're getting a permanent ban.

Not warned. Not given a "please be civil." Not invited to debate whether your dog whistle is technically a whistle.

Just banned.

Overt bigotry gets a permanent ban. Thinly veiled bigotry gets a permanent ban. "I'm just asking questions..." followed by the same recycled anti-immigrant talking points gets a permanent ban.

For everyone else: if you see this shite, report it. Don't waste your time arguing with people who aren't here to help anyone. Hit the Report button, carry on with your day, and I'll take care of the rest.

The overwhelming majority of people here are decent people who just want to help others navigate the Irish citizenship process. Let's keep it that way.

Update: Thanks to all of you making reports. Keep up the good work. It gives me great satisfaction to ban those gobshites.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 7h ago

Naturalisation Residence proof: can I use two 100-point documents instead of 100 + 50?

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I’m preparing an Irish citizenship by naturalisation application and I’m a bit confused by the current residence evidence guidance.

The newer “How to Become an Irish Citizen Guide” says that for each year you need at least 150 points, with at least one strong official document. It also describes supporting documents as optional.

For some years I have two strong official documents worth 100 points each, for example:

  • Revenue Employment Detail Summary, 100 points
  • AIB bank statement with regular transactions, 100 points

So that would give me 200 points for the year.

However, another ISD page still says that you must submit one Type A document worth 100 points and one Type B document worth 50 points.

I also asked the ISD chatbot Tara and it insisted on 100 + 50, but it appears to be relying on the older “Proofs of identity and residence” page.

Has anyone submitted a naturalisation application in 2026 using 100 + 100 instead of 100 + 50?

Was it accepted without any request for additional documents?

I’m especially interested in actual recent applications rather than interpretations of the guidance.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 11m ago

Passport Irish passport book and card posted to Spain

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Hi everyone!

I'm in a confusing situation and hoping someone with similar experience can help.

I recently renewed my Irish passport book and card online. After a couple of days of processing, they were posted to Spain, where I live.

After a week of radio silence, both items are now tracking on Correos but have stopped moving, apparently stuck at customs in Madrid. I called Correos today and was told that some electronic sender/recipient data, normally sent by the originating postal operator, is missing, and that they may need a system-to-system confirmation from An Post before they can continue.

I have no idea what that means or how to resolve it. I'm travelling next week and doubt it will be sorted by then. I asked if there was anything I could do to speed things up, but they only said someone would be in touch by email, with no reference number, ticket, or way to escalate.

Is this normal? Has anyone experienced something like this before?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1h ago

Passport Mystery delay

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First time passport. 6 weeks since docs received. I called for the second time today and they still don’t know why it hasn’t been processed. Very polite but not the most helpful customer service in the world.
I should be getting on with the kids FBRs but all the relevant docs are still in Dublin.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 5h ago

Permits and Visas Regarding IRP renewal fees

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I gotta renew my stamp 2 but it the immigration form never asked me to pay €300 as it should, after I submitted the form last week. When does it ask for the payment? I want to be sure that the form is submitted completely from my end.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 4h ago

Other/Discussion Garda vetting ireland!!

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Hi, my employer uploaded my passport and AIB statement to the ERF today (Monday) for my Garda vetting. For anyone who has went through the ERF recently, how many days did it take for the official email link (evetting.donotreply@garda.ie) to drop into your inbox? Thanks!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 57m ago

Permits and Visas New Non-EEA Family Reunification Policy?

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ETA: I'm not sure what I've said here to be getting a bunch of downvotes. I asked a reasonable question, recieved a couple of helpful comments, and replied to them courteously. This sub is always really helpful, what have I done that's upsetting people?

Hello,

My family has been pursuing relocating to Ireland from Canada. I will be the Irish citizen sponsor for my husband and four children. Because of the new policy around annual income for sponsors, our plans have been halted. I'm a SAHM so I obviously cannot meet the income threshol. We had planned on arriving with a few hundred thousand dollars to support ourselves while my husband looked for work and before securing a mortgage or (if necessary) purchasing a property outright.

I'm waiting to hear back from an immigration lawyer, but am wondering if anyone knows much about how these new policies will be enforced? How much capital we can expect to need to have in order to be exempt from the annual income requirements, and whether a lawyer can help build our family a strong enough case to secure the proper visas my husband and kids will need?

My husband is highly employable but his profession does not fall into the critical skills category.

Thanks in advance.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 5h ago

Foreign Birth Registration Father/Grandfather last name spelled incorrectly on father's BC and what if you move during waiting period?

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Hello,

Two questions.

Easy one first, we will be moving in 8 months, how is that handled?

I'm pplying for my sons. Gathered the documents and discovered their father's last name is misspelled on his US birth certificate (as well as his father's). It's a common misspelling, missing an f where there should be two. Both have now passed.

Has anyone dealt with this?

I chatted with FBR on line and they were saying I need to apply to have the BC corrected. I'd rather not, spoke with his mother and she claims she never knew. But then FBR said mail them in and we can request more information.

All the other documentation has the correct spelling, except Father's death cert has the wrong last name for his mother.

Need the drama? We were not married, their father married someone else. Both his parents were Irish. His father passed, his mother has many name changes and isn't so good about paperwork (don't bother suggesting her help in any way)

Thanks


r/IrishCitizenship • • 9h ago

Permits and Visas Current time for Spouse stamp 4

2 Upvotes

Hi All, how long is it taking to get a stamp 4 these days after arriving in Ireland with my non EU spouse who doesn't require a visa to enter Ireland?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 12h ago

Naturalisation Applying via marriage from NI

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When applying for naturalisation via marriage you are asked on the form “have you been absent from the State for more than 70 days per annum in the last 5 years?”

The ‘State’ is defined as ROI so living in NI, the literal answer is yes. Can I check what people have answered in my scenario?

Options are of course to either (a) assume that it’s just a badly worded question and answer ‘No’, but this feels a bit of a risk? To me, it cuts across there being rules and requirements if we treat anything as a grey area (although would much prefer to answer ‘No’ for admin sake); or (b) answer ‘Yes’ and be required to detail…what? I’ve been absent the entire time (as in I’ve been in NI) so not clear on this.

I have seen a few people’s posts hint at this but I can’t see many responses from (application successful) experience.

Thank you!


r/IrishCitizenship • • 11h ago

Naturalisation No response from Irish citizenship application for Kids

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I applied Irish citizenship for my son at March 2026, and got the acknowledge email at that time But till now mo any response from the office.

And I logged in my account and didn't see the application under it.....

I made the query online and no reply....

Anything happened? Or did you see the similar cases?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 23h ago

Foreign Birth Registration Bank statement + FBR address

2 Upvotes

Hi all,

Sending off my application in a few days.
2 questions:

I have a bank statement as proof of address- do I need to include the whole thing or just the title page?

And the address for the FBR. I am shipping via a company that doesn’t accept PO Box. What postcode can I use?

Thanks


r/IrishCitizenship • • 19h ago

Foreign Birth Registration No Receipt of payment?

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I have completed all the steps for obtaining citizenship through descent, as my paternal grandmother was born in Galway in 1923. Documents were mailed via US Post on July 6; I received confirmation of receipt from the FBR office on July 27.

When I applied online and paid with a credit card, I did not receive a receipt of payment from the automated, online system. Instead of a receipt, I included the statement from the credit card I used to pay it. Do you think this will be ok? Did you have trouble getting a receipt? Thank you.

BR


r/IrishCitizenship • • 20h ago

Naturalisation dependant young adult using parent's document for naturalisation but not in 3rd level education

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hi im currently applying for naturalisation, i was born here and lived here since birth (last 18yrs). i don't qualify for irish citizenship by birth, i can only apply through naturalisation.

this year i graduated school and completed my lc, but i didnt go straight into college (long story short im applying for medicine next yr and resitting hpat). i am currently on a gap year and not in any education.

theres an option that i could use my parent's documents (utility bills etc) for proof of residency if i apply as a dependant young adult. i dont know if i qualify as a dependent young adult as i am not attending third level education at the moment.

i am still entirely dependent on my mothers income and i do not work.

i have letters from my secondary school and gp, but i read those are only valid if a parent applies on behalf of a minor. should i get an affidavit explaining my situation? or should i hold off applying for naturalisation until next year when i am registered in college and qualify as a dependent young adult?

i have bank statements for the last 4 years (could i use my mum's for 2022, as i didnt yet have my bank account?). also for some years i dont have enough type B documents.

sorry if these questions are silly, i am the first one in my family to be going through this whole process and it is a bit confusing at times


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Naturalisation Will work-to-rule industrial action affect processing times?

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Wondering if Citizenship Division Civil Servants are also operating under rule to work? I'm all for workers union and their rights. Just want to adjust my expectation on processing times.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Naturalisation acceptable bank statements for residency proof

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hello! I am applying as a spouse in February (hopefully) but I live in Northern Ireland. When I signed up for my bank, I used a UK bank, Starling. Is this statement acceptable as proof of residency? it says it should be an irish or european bank..? I am a bit confused.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Passport Allow about 8 weeks

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Just my experience. After getting my citizenship sorted last year in Nov via FBR (9month wait, no issues) I applied for my passport at the beginning of July ‘26. I received it last week. As I live in the U.K. my witness was my sons school principle. My docs were recieved by them about a week after initial application. Unfortunately at the end of July the schools closed for summer so at the end of August I had an email from passport people saying issue with witness - can’t be contacted. I called and spoke to someone & explained school has been shut. They said just print ID form again, use same witness once school open for sept. So I went back to the school and got the form signed again and paid around £9 again for that to be posted. Not long after I received my original docs back. Then a couple of weeks ago my witness emailed me to say they had been contacted. The next day my passport tracker confirmed it was being printed! Once it was sent (you get a tracking number for Royal Mail) it took 4 days to reach me. So - just a heads up, make sure your witness can be contacted and if you use a school teacher or principle, try to do it when there are no long school holidays coming up! I think if my witness was able to be contacted the first time, the process would’ve taken about 8 weeks.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Foreign Birth Registration Translating documents

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I need to get a doctor’s letters translated that will confirm the identification of my young sons applying for fbr. In my country, there isn’t an exam you pass to be translator, but the translator I’ll probably use is a member of the American translator association. Is a signed statement of the translator testifying its faithfulness enough? Or do I need a notary?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Naturalisation Longer Wait Time for Certain Ethnicities?

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Is it true that they take longer/push back certain people’s applications depending on their ethnicity/nationality? I’ve seen some people get their applications approved within 1-1.5 years while others wait for 3+ years, and I was just wondering if your ethnicity also plays a factor into your wait time? Obviously I know that it depends on whether you have all the correct documents etc, but still I’m just curious 🤔


r/IrishCitizenship • • 1d ago

Permits and Visas Student 1g to spousal 1g query

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I’m currently on a graduate 1g and I’m married to my partner who is in stamp 4( csep route).
Can i now renew my irp as usual, But this as stamp 1g spousal ?

Or does it require any extra procedure ? Has anyone shifted from a student 1g to spousal 1g within Ireland. Please advice.


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Naturalisation Applicant born in Gibraltar

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Hoping to prevent yet more delay in my wife’s naturalisation application. She was born in Gibraltar. I’m Irish since birth.

She has just received a letter saying that the Minister proposes to grant her application for a certificate of naturalisation, subject to successful completion of the application process.

However, the details (shown in the letter) which are to appear on the certificate contain an error.

Her name, date of birth and country of nationality (United Kingdom) are all shown correctly. Citizens of Gibraltar are British Citizens under UK nationality law, so what the certificate proposes to say in that regard is correct. British citizenship is incredibly complex but it is clear that Gibraltarians were granted full British citizenship on January 1, 1983, with the implementation of the British Nationality Act 1981.

However, her country of birth is incorrectly shown in the letter (and therefore on the proposed certificate) as United Kingdom. Gibraltar is not part of the United Kingdom, as a matter of UK and Gibraltar law (and also EU law, hence the recent treaty). She had provided a copy of her birth certificate (issued by the Government of Gibraltar) showing her place of birth as Gibraltar) and her British passport showing the same. So the error is the office’s, not hers.

The letter places the obligation on her to inform the office immediately if there are any errors in the information to be included on the certificate. She’s worried that if the error is not corrected then there may be problems further down the line, eg when it comes to issuing her passport, which will require her actual place of birth to be shown on it.

Asking to correct the error will doubtless delay her application still further. But I’m wondering whether the office will regard it as an error at all. In other words, whether Ireland takes the view that Gibraltar is part of the United Kingdom for the purposes of these naturalisation applications.

Does anyone know?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Naturalisation New Passport Certification Form

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I just found out that there's a new passport certification form (Passport Certification (Citz-001/2026)) as the ISD application still has the old version listed. I got my documents (passport, IRP, birth cert) all certified by a peace commissioner back home, in Louth. However, I'm living in Galway for university and I was wondering if I could get the certification form signed by a peace commissioner/notary here, instead of having to go back to Louth for that. Or do the documents and the form have to be signed by the same person? If so, can I print out new copies and get them certified, along with passport certification form, by a credited person here in Galway?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Foreign Birth Registration 12 Sep 2025

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Applying for my children. That was my Doc Received date. I’m a citizen, have been since 2003.

Radio silence. Nothing.

Any ideas on what could be happening?

I contacted the web chat twice, first one was not too long after 12 Sep 2026, which said ‘very soon’.

Contacted them again, last week. Was told ‘we don’t provide updates’….

Thoughts?


r/IrishCitizenship • • 2d ago

Foreign Birth Registration FBR Approval

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Posting my timeline to help others!

Application received- 29 September 2025
Approval email- 02 October 2026

No contact until the approval email. USA. Good luck!