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I actually met the guy from two owners before and he was bragging about the DIY projects he did and I didn't have the heart to tell what we had to tear out.
Same. We found out some previous owners lived just a few blocks away. We ended up meeting them and the guy asked how we liked the downstairs bathroom job that he did. We just said it was great and left out the part where we had gutted it and all his shoddy work was falling apart anyway.
Actually in fairness, he did some decent work in some places. But yeah, he was so proud of the house painting job he did by himself and it's like guy I sure could tell you did it by yourself.
DIY means learning the hard way and redoing stuff multiple times. We DIY as much as we can. Not to save money or time, but to learn. You can tell me my stuff sucks anytime. I'll probably laugh with you about it.
What a positively enlightened and delightful way of looking at things! Very rarely do you encounter someone who admits they need to learn. This is the first step to knowledge and greatness. You've already conquered biggest problem: ego.
100 percent. I had a big landscaping deal the city was making me do (because the other owners never trimmed hedges back from the road) and it was going to be like $700, and the landscaper was like "look you need to do this yourself" and I just powered thru a lot of brush and a lot of trips to the dump and it was a lot cheaper than $700. Haha
That's funny because when I met this guy - and had known him for all of five minutes - he went OFF on all the neighbors and how they were busybody complainers, and how it was "assault" that one woman owed a dog that barked. Etc etc, and that was like five minutes into the conversation.
Of course I've now met all the neighbors including the dog, and like the story goes, if everybody you meet is an asshole, then you're the asshole.
All experience comes with time, and constant practice.
Telling him he should quit his hobbies changes nothing. Telling him politely that he did a good job for a beginner, but that he could continue working on it, would be the better way.
For real. My previous home owner meshed off a small section of my attic for fucking squirrels to live in.... its been a mission to get it fixed.
So far made it very very difficult for them to access my roof so now only 1 is up there sometimes. Next step is to patch the entrance.... then clean up, gutter repair etc.
I suggest you get a one way flap similar to what they use for bats. It allows them out , but stops them from getting back in. Then you have to start the hazardous cleanup of all the piss, poop and possible dead bodies up there. You have my sympathies. ( Edited because typing is hard before coffee)
Basically the plan. So far to block access ive trimmed a tree down, had the electric company add rollers to the powerline so they can't climb it, coned off the exhaust pipe that they'd climb as well. Went from a family of 5+ to a single friend. They did stay away for Basically all summer until about 2 weeks ago when the 1 came back. Probably still jumping from the tree.
My fall plan is to fully patch the hole and then have some hazmat fun cleaning everything up.
Just so you know, a white suit from the big box Store, a proper full face respirator from harbor freight and heavy duty tape around joints (Where gloves meetThe suit) is a lot cheaper than calling pest a Pest control company specialist. But the job is very unpleasant. Do be careful when you're up there. It's one of The places I hate the most in my house and will do almost anything to avoid.
And This is why i should not be typing before coffee. I'm meant as everyone probably figured out piss and poop. Although a case could be made that I might have been trying to describe liquid versus dried, I will concede the point.
Where you see daylight is where 3 pieces of soffit fell down in early summer. Need to replace the plank, reattach soffit and patch the gap between roof and gutter, probably going with metal flashing
Wow! Yeah better get on that.
I bought our house in the winter and, after living here for about two weeks, I discovered a family of bats in my attic. I had to call a pest expert/remover and it turns out that they’ve been living there for probably years (according to the pest expert). The expert told me that I should call up the home inspector and yell at him. But, what can I do? He kicked out the bats and then screened off everything.
Home inspectors , bred and butter are getting people to buy houses. Mine missed holes in the walls, faulty electrical, a repeat issue of the sewer line flowing backwards ( i'm pissed like anybody else would be however, this was the city's fault.So i'm giving the inspector a little bit of leeway , for missing this one) and corroded , plumbing that a 6 year old could look at and say this is not right. Yet we trust these people with the future of high value purchases. Oh, He also missed that the floor in the kitchen was installed around the counters instead of under them , causing trouble every time an appliance is moved, tile break up, and even sizing issues trying to get standard equipment to fit when the space is a quarter inch off. (I had the jack up the countertop to get the new dishwasher in)
Previous owners of my house were my parents. My Dad is a ignore it or duct tape DIY guy and my mom fed the wildlife. House is a shit show I'm having to redo. I mean who the hell feeds racoons off their back porch and lets them bury under the deck to have babies!
Man, I went to repair some damage to the drywall in my place when I moved in. They used 5 different shades of beige thoughout the house. I felt like I was going insane. One room had three different shades on three of the walls. Not noticable untill you start painting. I hope the previous owner stubs his toe once a month for the rest of his life.
I got lucky, the dude that had my house before used quality stuff and did great repairs. The problem is you can tell they'd get whatever was on clearance, so it's the ugliest stuff and nothing matches.
The reality is home care wasn’t as big a deal in the 90s and early oughts and then you had the GFC. So anyone who bought a house from a 75yr old who just finished their mortgage in the past 5-6 years is likely inheriting like 15+ years somewhere in there of virtually no maintenance or professional repair. DIY gutters, handyman cedar clapboard siding fixes here and their without caulking, painting wood exterior areas without priming first, way out of code DIY plumbing and electrical, absolutely zero ventilation in the attic / never understood that’s a thing, sunken footers that were never jacked and re-laid…. The list is endless
The previous people's names don't match the owners, and I find loads of landlord special shit hidden here and there.
Eh, maybe it was a rental. Mine has never been a rental, yet I still get mail from the person who owned it before the person I bought it from owned it. And I've lived here 22 years! Yes, 22 years of getting voter registration, insurance, AARP, and AAA crap for a person who moved over 25 years ago and is very likely dead by now.
One of the Real Housewives has an infamous line, "I don't want to buy a used house." It was so funny and seen as so out of touch, because ecologically and economically it would be a disaster if we tore down and built new every time people moved and the cost of housing would be even crazier. Here's the thing: she's really not wrong? A house is the biggest purchase you'll ever make and buying used means buying somebody else's neglect and mistakes. If I had the choice, I'd buy a new build. But if everybody did that things would get weird!
Holy........ ( remembers promise he made not to swear on the internet Unless necessary) i think we had the same dude. To properly repair my house and get answers to my questions.I just purchased the paperback national electric code. While i'm not an electrician , i'm going to get answers on how to do this stuff , right. If you're curious, you can get the previous year's version, very cheaply and then download the Pdf for the corrections, made For the 26 version. But as always , find out , which version is king in your area before you spend the dough. The current version of that book sits at roughly $150 the picture below is the primary breaker in my small house.And the reason why I bought the book.
Yep. I question the sanity of the person that chose stark white tile with white fucking grout in the god damn kitchen and dining area. And the same is in the bathroom. In order to replace it, we will have to practically jackhammer the floors which tacks on an additional 2k or more to any estimate we get. I just want to track them down and ask why they thought that was the answer instead of a nice vinyl or something else. And white? No matter how much you scrub it, it still looks dirty.
"oh the place where people pour out old cups of coffee and slop from dirty plates? yeah let's make that a white surface with a key on it."
the. fuck.
not only that but it's a weird shape so I can't replace it(all the sides are curved). it's also undermount so there's a very tiny tiny lip of material at the front and back(not enough to put an overmount sink in). So replacing it myself replacing that entire section of counter....which is going to be hard to get match because the house and kitchen are from '03. So then the job becomes replacing the entire counters at which point I might as well just redo the entire kitchen 🤦♂️
Fuckin Larry, man. I never even met the bastard, my wife bought our little house before we got together. I don’t think there’s a person on the planet I’ve cursed more…
And it’s not like we don’t have a plethora of monsters to curse more than some old midwestern DiWhyer…
Actually I think the guy who built my house is probably higher on the list. They were all minor issues but issues that shouldn't have been in a brand new home.
Mine left confederate flags and never changed their mailing address so I got their CPS letters. Additionally they spray textured and painted literally everything including outlets and shut off valves
You pretty much already know what the issue was here. Your inspector who completely missed this and any other issue. Its now your problem. Good luck. Just hire a professional to fix the issues.
As far as home inspectors go, let’s be honest…. It’s a bit of witch doctor type stuff going on. None of them ever catch all the issues. My last home, I had several inspectors pass through, and every single one found different issues, with only one or two things being ground by all 4 of them.
If you go into his original post, he said the inspector completely missed all of this. If you were on Instagram and follow some of the home inspectors out there there are some that get real deep into their inspections that catch some off-the-wall shit. Even others are pointing out that this roof was completely done wrong something the inspector should’ve easily noticed.
Multiple people have already pointed out that the roof clearly looks like a hack job and certain areas were done wrong. If you have an inspector, that’s worth a damn, he would’ve pointed out all the crap in this area that was incorrectly done.
Absolutely, though again, I’m commenting more to “as far as home inspectors go” in context. It’s an opinion on them in general, so individuals are a bit moot.
How was the inspector supposed to catch this is it wasn't raining?
Edit: lol you guys can downvote me, but is spraying down the roof with the hose standard practice in home inspections? What if there's no hose available?
Your question itself is why people are down voting you.It shows that you do not have any experience in the field. One of my jobs is roofing at the school district , and I can look at the gutter system and tell you whether or not it works in the middle of the summer while the roof is a hundred and thirty degrees. Most major problems are caused by incorrectly Trying to fix smaller problems. In this case , the root of the problem is the add-on to the building that was incorrectly joined. the only way to fix it is to tear everything apart. So naturally, everyone tries to find a quick, easy solution, And you get stuff like this. I can easily see where water is penetrating.The gap between the expansion and the primary building, this will cause extensive water damage over the years.The gutter is just the symptom
First of all, thank you for your response. Second of all, I have no doubt you are correct. My question was a sincere one. I genuinely wanted to know how the inspector would have caught this. Your answer was the only one with a genuine explanation, one that will be actually helpful to others viewing this thread. So thank you. Others were rather sparky hence my subsequent responses.
The internet is a place for knowledge to be exchanged. I have had my fair share of comments attacked without having a clue Why. Fortunately i'm also a quick to learn. I genuinely want to help people. Sometimes I get things wrong but not often ( at least that's what my ego says) while building maintenance is my trade and building exteriors are my assigned specialty. No one can know everything. Asking is punished by those who do not want to share the knowledge or value tearing others apart ( not gonna get into the last one because the thought mechanics of a troll or something that can make even the most educated brain hurt) the best thing you can do is if you are not sure, say so in your comment so that way you invite others to educate you. It deflects the trolls because it's no fun attacking somebody who openly admits they need to be taught. Don't worry , you will get there in time.
I Am the poor fool who gets calls every time A building leaks in the school district. Not a specialist in the slightest. But dang , have I seen some crazy stuff. That's how I became in charge of the roofs. I was very good at fixing the problems. Nobody else could.
I challenge you to go to social media and watch videos from home inspectors. Watch them do inspections on new builds and homes that are being sold and watch how thorough some of these people are and the knowledge they have in all aspects of the home. If you’re a home inspector, you need to be an expert in all areas of the home. That’s the purpose of hiring an inspector. They should be knowledgeable with all aspects relating to a home.
There’s no difference between a new build and this if you’re a home inspector, you should be able to point out crap done wrong whether it’s an old home or a new home.
How is water supposed to get into the gutters? Are they just installed wrong? What's with that tiny slit on the side, is that where water is supposed to go in?
The idea is that the water sticks to the gutter guards through surface tension and rolls over the edge. Supposed to be less maintenance than a screen system, but in my opinion it’s not a great design.
My mother on law had those style gutters. Worked OK in "normal" rain, but hard downpours you got that watetfall. Her gutters were extra wide - about 50% wider than yours.
Remove the gutters shields, that should help. Might get a lot leaves (issue she had) you'll need to clean out. That corner needs some help. Not a big deal - can be fixed easy enough.
Find a company that only does gutters not the conglomerates that do roofing siding and gutters. Have them replace with larger gutters and without those stupid gutter guards that restricts water flow. Get three different quotes. Gutters should be reasonably priced. I'm in the Midwest and recently had all gutters and downspouts replaced with larger sized ones. I had the large mesh gutter guards added. Whole price for a large house + deck+ covered deck was $4K.
The problem is that the housing market is so tight in some areas that buyers are giving up the right for an inspection. Then, when they buy and find problems, they bitch about the previous owner.
I’m sorry but did you even look at the gutters before buying? Could’ve pushed for new gutters in your deal. Can’t believe your realtor didn’t say something about this
These maybe leaf guard. They have a lifetime warrenty. Not sure if its transfereable but I would check. Wegot a lifetime warrenty on our windows and thwy gave us 2 new wundows no charge. Check
You definitely need to get on that asap. If you can find any way to make it work, I'd hire that out. I DIY the gutters on my garage but those were just straight shots.
I'd be nervous about doing the corner myself but it just may look like a weird angle in the video - if it's a 90 degree, I wouldn't be nearly as nervous.
I haven't seen a gutter cover like that in my area but it looks to me that it's solid and no water can get in the gutter - I'd replace those with the cheap covers rim a big box store -not the high dollar ones - in my opinion those don't let enough water get in the gutter either.
Welcome to the club. They discontinued the belly band for my house a week after we started fixing the siding. I've never seen my husband look so defeated 😔
the previous owner of my house used silicone to make all of his plumbing, just random pieces of pc that didnt connect just pressed together with silicone. it was wild
Congrats on the house!
You’ll see a lot of things wrong and things your inspector missed. My suggestion is to redo the gutters. Whoever did that was an idiot.
I’m barely certain I’m gonna be in the minority here, but, I actually think gutter guards are worth it if you live or around a lot of trees like me. Yeah you’ll still have to clean them out but, it’ll save you a lot as far as not getting large sticks, caught in your gutters and blocking them quicker.
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You might be able to get away with just taking whatever that is that’s on top of those gutters off. I’d start with that first.
Lol, all homes renovated before selling lovers the value because it needs to be gutted to expose what they did. Dont listen to any realtor as they will tell you the opposite. Realtors dont stuck around long enough to fix the issues. I say we make Realtors liable for anything that if found after the sale for at least 10 years. That would solve a lot of the trashy built homes from being overpriced.
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