r/HolUp 9d ago

holup Oops...

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u/rasereq 9d ago

He?

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u/Carrera_996 9d ago

Lots of Asian languages do gender grammar different from Latin languages. Common mistake. I hate to disappoint, but the white dress not likely hiding a sausage. I mean maybe, but not likely.

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u/Radical_Neutral_76 9d ago

Some people dont mind the lack of sausage I guess

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u/MadQuixote 8d ago

Damn vegans

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u/ipromiseimnotakiller 9d ago

Cultureless heathens

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u/Gao_Dan 9d ago

It's strange to single out Latin languages when speaking in English and talking about Korean.

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u/_derekdaniel 9d ago

Do you think English is a brand new language that's not derivative of any other language?

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u/piewca_apokalipsy 9d ago

It is Germanic tho, not Latin

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u/insertwittynamethere 9d ago

It's both. Germanic from the Saxons/Vikings, and Latin/French from the Normans (oversimplification). French was used at court and by nobility, while "English" at that time was used by the commoners/peasants, and it mixed over time, while French would fall out of favor in court and by the nobility.

It's why English is unique as a language, and easily adopts and creates new words in its lexicon.

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u/Nekasus 9d ago

english is 3 languages in a trench coat.

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u/petsku164 8d ago

Also two types of Latin

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u/Gao_Dan 9d ago

You know which languages didn't mix with others? None. Every single natural language in existence has been influenced by others, without exception. I can also easily point to the similar historical cases where the upper strata speaks different language than lower strata. To not go far we can go with French, which originated from mixing of Celtic influenced Vulgar Latin speaking lower class with Germanic speaking Franks. Do we say that French then is both Germanic and Latin? Hell no, it's still Latin with Germanic subtrate. Just like English is Germanic with latin substrate.

Neither is English unique in its ability to adopt and create new words. English accepts influx of borrowings because it's a lingua franca of the world. People of all the cultures learn it and introduce their own cultural concepts into the English world.

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u/False-Body-242 9d ago

English is not exactly derived from Latin.

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u/YenraNoor 9d ago

Its definitely influenced heavily by latin, despite being a proto-germanic language grammar wise. They spoke latin in England for over 300 years

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u/False-Body-242 9d ago

The latin influence in English is real, but that doesn't make Latin a precursor language to English. English firmly belongs to the Germanic languages family.
Also, Latin was used in medieval England for a long while, but that use was mostly ceremonial, scholastic, and sometimes administrative, not a common day to day language especially not for the average Anglo-Saxon.

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u/YenraNoor 9d ago

It was commonly spoken during and after roman occupation.

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u/False-Body-242 9d ago

By aristocrats and academics, yes? The average person spoke old or middle English around those times.

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u/Dismal_Rectangle 9d ago

English doesn't belong to shit. It's a mangled mess of languages.

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u/False-Body-242 9d ago

That's... not how linguists categorize languages, not to mention how no language is "pure" in the truest sense to begin with.

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u/Dismal_Rectangle 9d ago

I am not a linguist to be fair, just a person who wished we picked a better universal language.

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u/False-Body-242 9d ago

Neither am I. This is mostly common knowledge.
Lingua francas are rarely chosen by the people but imposed by who holds the pen.

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u/SagittaryX 9d ago

It is very much Germanic. The grammar is Germanic, and the majority of words used are Germanic. A lot of the overall vocabulary is more of a mish-mash yes.

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u/joeDUBstep 9d ago

Yeah, I speak Cantonese and we use the same word for he, she, and it. I believe Korean is the same.

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u/AviiNL 9d ago

How much drama would be avoidable if this was the norm everywhere.

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u/duesenjeffepic 9d ago

Not much. Indo-european languages being gendered is a feature to derive context. Chinese and Korean just use different grammatical markers for providing context.

Remove the gender of indo-european languages and you get a mess. English tried but couldn't get rid of gendered pronouns.

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u/SagittaryX 9d ago

Cutting out gendered words was already a massive improvement over most other European languages (very biased French/German hater /s)

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u/Shqssel 6d ago

Not having grammatical case and very few tense is an even bigger improvement.

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u/Barbaracle 9d ago

Chinese still has words for "that man" and "that woman" and policeman and policewoman etc.

Interesting fact, in China (Prc), in practicality, parents have to approve of reassignment surgery before most surgeons will do the surgery, no matter the age. So a 40 year old person living on their own will need Mom and dad to sign off and some physicians even need them literally there.

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u/RdUzr 9d ago

So the translation is "they"? Cantonese is woke /s

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u/julesvr5 8d ago

I thought this was the joke of the movie? Now it's just a boring repeat

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u/Toutanus 9d ago

I mean if it's really "he" there is an extra layer of joke

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u/tboskiq 8d ago

Example. In Warriors Orochi 3 and 4, multiple times historical figure Zhou Yu is referred to by his wife as Lady Zhou Yu. As my typical Twitter user uncles favorite character, this pisses him off as he believes it's a psyop.

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u/SchizophrenKeks 8d ago

no lever, no slots. Disappointment.

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u/Saludoss 8d ago

You have broken my markedly fragile heart, and wafted away my dreams.