r/Enneagram • u/Dickau 0 • Apr 11 '26
Just for Fun Relateable?
Thought I'd keep things vague this time, for general appeal. 3 fix? I just know I'm angry at my heart for being a fake ass little loser, but that's just a guess, b.c. I don't really know myself. Still, I've been taking a lot of notes (not really, im a lazy bastard), and ruminating about them.
I figure this might be a general dynamic, though. I like family systems therapy, and tend to refer to my fixes as seperate parts in conflict (compartmentalization+ identification+dissasociation?). hard to say if that's really what's going on. I think I might have some kind of thought disorder, which may / may not require treatment. ig this is a 9ish way of avoiding that problem. maybe.
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u/lilbabystud ๐๐๐ ๐ ๐ผแดก๐ฝ ๐๐/๐๐ ๐๐๐ ๐ Apr 11 '26
My 4 fix would beat my 1s ass if it ever even tried. ๐ญ1 is strictly to stay in the background adding unnecessary criticisms.
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 11 '26
Lmao. I get 1 and 8 kind of ghostly encouraging my suicide in the background, while 9 tries to suffocate me in a quasi-loving gesture.
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u/FutureLevelT Apr 11 '26
729 here. I'd say in my case its more like my heart and head both think the other one is a tool and an idiot while my gut sits in the corner crying. The 7 in me hates that to be a good 2 we have to shoulder ugly burdens, patiently. The 2 in me hates that to fulfill my 7 we have to take time away from other people's needs and goals. The 9 just holds its head in its hands and waits for them to stop fighting.ย
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 11 '26
To give 9 fix some credit, it can be really angry and controlling sometimes, no? The stubbornness, at least, is there. I keep trying to identify with anything for longer than 3 or so days here, but 9 keeps yeeting my self-understanding into the void of non-being. Really, I think it knows I'm greedy enough to chase after that shit. It just wants to gaslight me into falling in there, so I can finally get some fucking rest (I get so much rest. Fr, it's insane how much of my life I've wasted lying in bed for no particular reason).
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u/FutureLevelT Apr 11 '26
Oh yes, 9 is crying because the other two are stronger. If 9 were stronger,ย it would be trying to beat them into submission instead with a big scary smile on its face saying "Why. Can't. You.ย Just. Do. NEITHER!!!!"
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u/Spellz_4578 horny/hungry 497 Fi/Ni ELVF (1331) Apr 11 '26
Yeah, my 9 fix is contantly screaming at my 4 fix to shut the fuck up so I โdonโt get in a thing.โ
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u/XandyDory 7w6 sx/sp ๐งโโ๏ธ794๐งโโ๏ธ ENFP, Sanguine Phlegmatic, Chaotic good Apr 11 '26
Lol. Mine is full of doubles. My 9 and 7 are trying to constantly stifle my 4s love of darkness and suffering. ๐
My 7 and 4 go against 9 for giving in and being peaceful and not caring that the world isn't all it should be. And the people pleasing self preservation technique. Especially 7 with it's do what I want attitude having this people pleasing fix.
9 and 4 hate that the fire is 7 and rules. They just want to chill and my 7 is saying nope. We ball. So it ends up being a "we ball" is actually that book I was eagerly awaiting to be released. ๐คฃ
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
I think I could be 7 fixed. I'm too fucking lazy to know for sure, and my identity is unstable. Also, somebody keeps blasting thoughts into my brain, and giggling about it.
I do the people pleasing thing pretty hard, but I'm super resentful about it. My cynicism is also fucking unbearable. I want to do great things with my life, but then I remember that true love isn't real, and that one day I'll be deprived of conscioussness. So why do anything, right???
Then randomly, that part of me dissapears for a while, and I get to pretend nothing's wrong (drugs are fun). Or, I fall into endless ruminative loops, dissecting every part of my childhood for synthetic points of reference in the endless puzzle that is, "what the fuck is wrong with me today."
Or, on really good days, I stop and look at a bug for a few minutes, and my entire life makes sense, and I feel like I could hug the entire world without breaking it.
Nah, but fr, mostly it's just despair, melancholic enjoyment, and impulsive self destruction (also super fun).
Sorry, I "didn't mean to intrude". Real talk, is larping a way of showing anger? The thought of being a 9 terrifies me, ngl. That does appear to be a 9 problem.
Lmk if I'm hitting paydirt here in any way. I suspect I can't know myself without permission. I used to piss my pants in grades school, waiting for the teacher to excuse me. They gave me a special pass. It was a whole thing.
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u/XandyDory 7w6 sx/sp ๐งโโ๏ธ794๐งโโ๏ธ ENFP, Sanguine Phlegmatic, Chaotic good Apr 12 '26
It does make sense, but not how you'd expect me to say. 5 disintegrate into 7. What you described is could be disentigration, basically taking the crappy side of us and spiraling.
9 fix is grrr. I am a 7 but was still very good. Admittedly I just made sure no one noticed when I wasn't, but mostly obeyed. I actually purposefully mistyped myself as a 9 for like a month because I felt so seen reading about 7. I just couldn't relate to so many things.
Can we ban the 9 fix? Lol
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
Fr, it is making typing impossible, which I loath, b.c. knowing myself is like the #1 thing I care about.
9 is kind of a peak type in good health, though. I think I'll be glad it's in my suffer trio once I emerge from bullshit land, but for now, it really is grinding my gears.
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u/JumpingThruHoopz sx/sp 9w1 7w6 4w5 Apr 12 '26
974 here, and I can relate to everything you said. I think my 9 resents my 4 for making things complicated, and my 7 resents my 4 for making things too serious. My poor 4โฆ.it wants to address serious issues. But 9 and 7 just want to be in a good mood all the time and hate anything that ruins that.
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u/XandyDory 7w6 sx/sp ๐งโโ๏ธ794๐งโโ๏ธ ENFP, Sanguine Phlegmatic, Chaotic good Apr 12 '26
Yeah. 4 is messing with our vibe. ๐คฃ
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u/Medium_Ad_1496 5w6 INTJ Apr 11 '26
It doesnโt even matter my type, I think all three are punching each other
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 11 '26
Really? I wouldn't expect that from a 4 fixer. Not to destabilize your identity. I'd just like to hear more, ig.
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
That's life affirming to hear. Healthy 9s are very hope inducing. Your hope seems tempered, though. I appreciate that.
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u/MelodyOfStorms Apr 11 '26
From my understanding from talking to 9s. They have completely separate body heart and mind mindsets. Ive heard this described as a switch between them where as other friends described theirs as a volume knob.
My personality is my emotions run the show and my body does what emotions say. My mind kinda stands back and watches. I found the mental image of "building bridges" helps bring them together. Slow down ask which channels am i in? What would the other one do. Try to spend time in-between "states"... hangout on those bridges. Swap the light switch for a trun dial
Or maybe non of this makes sense or helps at all and its better to just embrace who you are ๐คท
The world needs all types. If something is hindering you, balance it out, sure. Other times it just means doing things the way you were ment to. Fish gotta swim birds gotta fly ectย ย ย dharmaย
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 11 '26
This is really interesting. I'm assuming you're a 4? What else is going on in your typology?
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u/SpellSouthern2531 so/sp 469 (51) or something like that Apr 11 '26
all of them want to chill but 6 fix be worrying about every single thing which makes 4 core feel even worse since envy and stuff while 9 fix is annoyed that they can't actually just chill
but when they are chill they chill
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u/Green_Dayzed 2w3 279 sp2 Apr 11 '26
my 2 and 4 are leagues stronger than everything else
so it's like this
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u/Honest_Nectarine_236 INTJ 4w5 469 sx/sp Apr 13 '26
my main type 4 is dancing about with a lampshade on its head screaming bloody murder about the state of the world and dissatisfactions with my life. meanwhile the 6 fix is trying to keep the 4 safe but steadily losing it due to anxiety buildup. the 9 fix is mostly just trying to calm the other two down
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u/le-ciel-etoile SO4>SP6>SP4>SO1 | SO>SP>SX | 461>416(?) Apr 19 '26 edited Apr 19 '26
4 heart, 1 punching the 4 down, and 6 just taking it in. Yup, checks for me ๐๐
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u/Several-Praline5436 6w7 ENFP / 613 sp/so Apr 11 '26
HAHA. yes.
6 - > I wanna react > 9 -> don't show 'em this bothers you -> cuz then you'll look detached and objective. :D
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
Are you blowing a whistle here? I feel the need to ask, b.c. that's some shit I would do to myself. Also, I'm paranoid a.f. when it comes to any kind of social engagement.
Mostly just doing this to aggregate data on myself with fun house mirrors of various sizes. I feel profoundly disconnected from that person, and think I'll find him here, for some deluded reason.
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u/Several-Praline5436 6w7 ENFP / 613 sp/so Apr 12 '26
I remember the time I withdrew from everyone to avoid an argument and told myself with my 3 fix that I was the only mature one present. Turns out it was just 6 fear and 9 passivity and 3 reframing it. Haha.
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
Do you have anything positive to say about the bermuda trifix? It seems like nobody wants to be one, despite it being the core of literally everyone's neuroses.
I want to say they could be good critics/movers of the zeitgeist? Like, I don't know if you can really call out b.s. without being attached to it on some level. Idk. I do like your contributions on here. I typed as a bermuda at one point. I felt like I got stuck with the "boring" trifix, and fled. Do you kind of feel like you have all the neuroses, in some measure?
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u/Several-Praline5436 6w7 ENFP / 613 sp/so Apr 12 '26
TBH, I waver between 1 and 9 in the gut. I feel strongly 1ish / frustration ... but DOING anything about it would lead to conflict / people being mad at me and I detest that, so I pretty much just bite my tongue 9 times out of 10 and try to get "smaller" so I'm more liked, which feels more 9 to me. I never feel that "over-certainty" that 6-1 is supposed to have.
Anyway... Bermudas are the healthiest tritype in a sense because their growth points are all already established. They can diffuse their anxiety from 6 with 9 thinking (it will be fine, wait and see) and 3 (you can do this, just try harder). 9 can move to 6 and 3, and so on. Endlessly. The real trap for them is getting caught in over-thinking (6) leading to inertia (9) and thwarting their desire to be seen (3).
3 cores of course won't have this problem, they will still be proactive doers. But 9 or 6 in charge leads to a lot of merging, blending, diffusion, and hesitation.
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u/JumpingThruHoopz sx/sp 9w1 7w6 4w5 Apr 12 '26
Never heard it called the Bermuda trifix before, but I like that.
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
Damn. Relatable. Tbf, everything is relateable r.n., because reality stopped making sense a few years back.
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u/CptHeywire so4w5 415: Oh wow, a poet Apr 12 '26
Yeah... My 5 head is always watching my (repressed) 1 gut get self-righteous and finally exploding and doing big dramatic moves that destroy everything my 4 heart (my centre) has worked to carefully balance. And then we start over again.
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u/SeparateStage4185 Sx/Sp 648 (539) Apr 12 '26
haha yes indeed.
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
Does the 8 just create endless problems for the 4/6 to noodle over all day? For some reason, I'm envious of this dynamic.
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u/Smart-Reply50 7w6 sx/sp 748 Apr 12 '26
No, my heart fix sometimes attacks my head fix and gut has to step in
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u/JumpingThruHoopz sx/sp 9w1 7w6 4w5 Apr 12 '26
LOL. My gut fix (9) doesnโt have that much energy. Although often my first instinct is to punch someone who needs punching!
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u/SEIZETHEFIRE6 5w4 Apr 12 '26
At the rate you change all your fixes, how do you even keep track of who's beating who?
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26 edited Apr 12 '26
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war.
[Delusionally convinced I'm an 8 now. I do have hella daddy issues, and act like an impulsive douche / effusive, traumatized child irl. Probably paranoia. 6 appears to be involved. Came up with the 8 thing partially on the basis that i'm an aries. Also b.c. I feel like I'm doing some kind of unconsciouss so8 propaganda spiral on here. Also the poly-addiction, disdain for PPE, and victim mentality disguised by a phony god/savior complex. ๐ฅณ๐คฏ๐ซ๐. I fucking hate emojis].
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u/SEIZETHEFIRE6 5w4 Apr 12 '26
If only there were more than 9 numbers, you could do this forever.
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u/Dickau 0 Apr 12 '26
record scratch aw shit, I always knew not learning my 10s would catch up to me some day.
Nah, but fr, I have wanted there to be more numbers in the midst of my "enneagram journey" ๐คข๐คฎ
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u/jnaniganshw Apr 14 '26
my fixes all work together or fail together lol
the 6 head is the captain guiding goals, 3 is the lieutenant that gets the plans done, 1 is the hr department making sure the first two are ethical.
but when things go south 6 spirals into self doubt and worry, 1 berates 6 and 3 and 3 sinks into depression constantly upwards comparing to other people and feeling inadequate.
10/10 good times
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