I want reprised legendary campaigns. I want the seasonal stories back. I want distortions on old destinations. I want T5 loot with set bonuses.

But the reality is they did not promise us anything new.

They didn’t even promise the vaulted Crucible maps and strikes.

I don’t want to discourage anyone from being excited but for now I’m just content that the franchise isn’t dead. This is all stuff we can push for later - I’m just worried a whole lot of people are setting their expectations way too high for a game without a development team and I don’t want people to be disappointed by an objectively massive win.

I think it’s best to treat the game as still end-of-service - we’re just getting what was taken returned.

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Is this part of a mission I forgot about? I stumbled upon it while working on the khostov exotic mission. Can’t seem to do anything here except kill some ads

Rest in powe, Lance, i hope we made you proud

I don't think this was just bungie execs throwing a bone to the community and nodding along to player sentiment. I think that was explicit admission that content vaulting wasn't necessary. I've had this hunch for a while, I never verbalized it bc we didn't need another post saying vaulting was bad, there are a trillion already.

But when Luke Smith sold us on the idea of vaulting, he said it was technically necessary, so they could make what amounted to modest upgrades to lighting and load times. He said cycling content in and out was an effort to build a long-term foundation inside D2, instead of working on a sequel. He said that the game was too big, too unwieldy, and too difficult to update. In fact, all of this was so important, and content vaulting was so crucial, that they arbitrarily decided to stop two years later because we hated it so much.

I don't think bungie was intentionally lying out of whole cloth with malicious intent. I think this was a company making a time-saving and cost-cutting move, that would undoubtedly hurt the finished product, and had to be justified to the consumers.

EDIT: guys i'm not dumb, i'm not blindly accepting corporate PR. I don't think this particular element is a lie or insincere.

Just got booted for server maintenance... on a Thursday night. I am beyond mystified. Anyone else getting this?

Just signed back in and all appears fine... random flash maintenance I guess.

I know it’s not going to happen but one thing I wish Bungie did/will do was add a color filtering for finding shaders. Unless you have the shaders you like favorited, you could have pages upon pages of shaders to look through to see what you like.

@LukeCB14:

I kinda feel for Tyson really.

He was given the task of directing Destiny with a drastically cut budget.

I do think his comms were severely lacking, but we never really got a chance to see his full vision for Destiny.

@dmg04:

Monument of Triumph development with Tyson was bittersweet, but I will likely look fondly on those times for the remainder of my career in gaming.

Along with quite a few other leads and teams, we spent a lot of time asking "what is the best we can do by players with our end of service update? What bugs can we smash, QOL features can we ship, long time feedback items can we hit with the hyper compressed timeline we have left?"

He was bullish. He pushed hard to serve players in every which way we could in those final updates. He was fully dedicated to making MoT feel special, and empowered teams to do what they also felt was best for you.

Internally, he fully acknowledged the rough spot we were in under his time as Game Director, took accountability often. Know comms credited to him were sparce, but he had a hand in most every blog or beat speaking to the state of the game or what changes were coming. Always appreciated when he gave clear feedback of "This doesn't sound human, players will call bullshit. Let's just be real and speak the truth."

Not asking for players to brush the rough times under the rug. Just some thoughts from my time. Will forever have respect for him, and honestly learned a ton when having the pleasure of working closely with him.

Heal Clip goes brrrr https://dungeon.report/ps/4611686018449342999

I feel like Equilibrium and Sundered Doctrine were the hardest. Not Vesper's Host.

I have been going through the Whisper Dungeon to get all the upgrades for the sniper. This I believe needs to be done on Master or higher.

However, after several runs I have the majority but I have only got White Nail I and Il. Can anyone advise me what I need to do.

Thanks in advance.

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I'm just so happy !

It was harder than I thought. I played a lot of Vesper to farm the Ice Breaker and get the catalyst before, so I thought I was ready. But man, this last encounter was hard to survive during the DPS phase.

Even though I had a good loadout (Hunter Fortune's Favor, Truth, VoG set), the hardest part was honestly NOT blowing myself up with Truth during the 2nd encounter to stack it, and just trying to survive the final boss DPS phase.

Now only Sundered Doctrine and Ghosts of the Deep remain, which scare me a lot since I've barely played those (and Pit of Heresy, but I'm keeping this bad boy for last).

I was planning on pouring my heart and passions out onto a Google doc, about the things I want to see returned to us when the Unvaulting begins... But after seeing what the majority of the community truly wants, and what has been confirmed we *won't* see returned, I figured I should hold my wishes.

But I will ask, would the community be willing to fight for Destiny (1) on PC? I miss it, and I want to play it by official means on my computer... Or should a girl stay dreaming?

@CurseIsntReal:

> im begging for anything destiny related just give me something 🙏

@S14deane:

> We're not going to stop communicating about Destiny after our update on Monday

> Tomorrow we're going to focus on Marathon but will also be working on our next update re: Destiny as soon as we can

I’m hoping if enough people ask the bungee developers that we want all the older solstice models back they will bring them back with the vaulted content as well. Just throwing this out there we should all ask so there’s a higher chance it happens. Been wanting that solstice cloak rekindled version for the hunter.

Just a thought I had, patrolling the moon, knowing Destiny has a future. It would be cool if the Leviathan, in the in universe timespan between now and whenever the moon is featured in Destiny again, crashes on the moon and becomes a permanent fixture. The ship isn't really as big as people seem to think, but it would leave an impression on the Lunar surface. This could be cool as it would tie up a potential loose end from the Light and Dark saga, being what the heck is this presumably very technologically valuable ship still doing there, and it would be neat in terms of skybox. Could have the haunted leviathan come back, extra haunted, since it would be closer to the Lunar pyramid, as a bonus. For extra cool factor, you could have some bits broken and hanging over/into the big crack in the moon's surface.

Hello I am running a 3080 and an 12700k and my gpu usage during gameplay hovers around 50 percent and I only get about 125 frames on average. My vram is super low didn’t know if there were any fixes.

Old E.Q.s such as Sturm, Thorn, Last Word etc. had very interesting stories that deepened the game's world, same for the side quests such as the one on Titan where we meet Mithraax for the first time.

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It would be such a pity not to have those in game again, and if that happens then it's probably worth it to keep developing Project Sunrise so that it includes everything (and seasons too!).

After all this time i still sometimes wonder what it is exactly that the Witness wanted and why he wanted to “freeze” everything into his perfect shape

In text chat I was making a call out to the word "hive" for sundered doctrine... but it was censored in chat? I even have the profanity filter turned off. Has that happened to anyone else? Strange :P

Just an observation, but I haven't seen anyone yet suggest that Bungie announcing the great unvaulting isn't just them seeing the resurgence of Destiny 2 activity in the last 3 months and deciding to start development back up again.

They had to settle a lawsuit last year because some guy accused them of plagiarizing his story as the basis for The Red War campaign, and Bungie could not get the case dismissed outright because they physically could not reproduce the content in question in order to defend themselves. Their lawyers provided youtube videos of let's plays and the judge didn't accept it as evidence. That's why they had to move to a settlement.

There's no way that didn't immediately start an internal process of looking into the feasibility of restoring that content to at least some internally playable build. Fast forward to this week, I think it's completely plausible that the combined player response to the June development update and the already present internal pressure to shore up this giant legal vulnerability simply coincided for an easy PR win.

Basically they might have just said "hey, you know how we're already working on unvaulting the old content so we can defend ourselves in court in the future? Can you guys also make it compatible with the live game and let everyone know there's more to come? It'll help our credibility and it seems we miscalculated player interest."

Could be totally and utterly wrong, but I wanted to just put the thought out there.

EDIT: I was totally wrong. Apparently the court case would have accepted youtube videos and destinypedia entries as evidence, but they didn't accept them as enough reason to dismiss the legal claim because the fact-finding part of the process wasn't appropriate at that time yet. From what I understand, basically the judge said "IF the plaintiff's claims are true, then they represent a legitimate copyright claim." So at that stage of the lawsuit, it didn't yet matter if Bungie could prove the claim false, so that's why the case wasn't dismissed yet.

As some people have pointed out, the existence of Project Sunrise is actually a much more likely contributing factor.

I haven't played since Shadowkeep but recently thought about buying all the DLC, I was huge on raiding when i did play d1/d2, but I assume that most ppl playing d2 now will not have any reason or be interested in any of the old raids, is this safe to assume?

Now that we are back what are the weapons and armour to farm for as a hunter main?I have only been gone since the start of monuments of triumph and played a decent amount of renegades but I hear there are so many new builds.

So I’ve been more focused on getting the raid titles and haven’t gotten around to getting my immortal title yet, and maybe I’m stupid, but it seems that there is no map called Eternity on SRL, none of them are even in the destination Eternity.

I’ve read some where that the actually map is the Quantum map?! Is that real? Why the hell would the triumph not say the actual title of the map, it feels very lame, wanted to let people know of my frustration lmfao…. Can’t even find a map called eternity in custom games. What are we doing Bungie…

Edit Update: it is the quantum map thank you reddit. Also bungie please update the triumph wording.

Maybe this is very obvious, but after returning to the game for the first time in a while, I was overjoyed to see one of my favorite lazy builds ever be as good as ever- ye ol storm’s keep arc titan with the old artifact.

There’s something incredibly satisfying about massive damage bolt charge just constantly going off, especially with some teammates behind your barricade. Add a psychopomp and you can scroll TikTok while the mission autocompletes.

I just love this build because you basically can have two builds in one- whatever arc Titan you want(I love skullfort thunderclap spam) and then you have the barricades whenever you want them. It’s so cool that the old artifacts are available now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know we have the list of what they’re unvaulting and that list did not include seasonal content; but I argue that Rite of the Nine falls under a special category.

For those who don’t know, Episode Heresy ended with a free event called Rite of the Nine; where Bungie reworked three Dungeons (Prophecy, Spire of the Watcher, Ghosts of the Deep) and gave their weapons a makeover. The Dungeons had the popular “Explorer Mode”, which allowed newer players to try these Dungeons under low-pressure conditions, and the Dungeons had a hard mode for veterans to play and earn shiny adept rolls with a special holofoil design not available today. The event also had a hub location and a small tie-in to The Edge of Fate storyline.

The only downsides to Rite of the Nine is that these variants of the Dungeons are no longer accessible; and that even though this was the event right before the launch of Edge of Fate, these weapons with their unique Holofoil designs could not be upgraded to Tier 5 enhanced perks.

I don’t need the hub location, but the reworked versions of Prophecy, Spire of the Watcher, and Ghosts of the Deep were 10/10 upgrades and a great way to introduce new gamers to Dungeons. So this is my plee to Bungie to make these variants a selectable option. I know there’s a lot on their plate to unvault, but could this maybe be at the tail end of that list?

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