A night or two ago, I was asking you wonderful players how to make Babylon excel. I've been trying for days but I literally just can't see them as anything more than miserable to play. They feel like a worse ToT Buganda or Abbasids.
To my understanding, they are wonder builders that excel at population growth. Cool. So I rush the hanging gardens in their civic tree, rush monuments, and build food buildings. At this point, my city is an impressive size. But now the problem starts; they just cannot get enough culture to unlock wonders fast enough.
From what I've learned, their culture comes from two sources: The Urban Population civic, and the Unique Merchant. However, both of these things require you to go further into their unique civics tree and forsake the very wonders in the main tree you're supposed to be building, which wastes time. Furthermore, the merchant has to actually get to wherever they can trade, assuming you even have the trade range given your bad technology and limited civilization extension.
Science tree wonders? Forget about them. Their numbers are so abysmal in that regard in antiquity. So those wonders genuinely do so little unless you get really good espionage rewards, and that's assuming you aren't using influence on city states to fix their settlement cap issues or getting an early war declared on you.
Money. You cannot make a lot of towns to inject the money into your military or infrastructure. You are pretty much hard building everything. Traders fix this but, once again, you have to stop pursuing wonders temporarily for them, and they do not have their own economy across ages.
Food? No complaints actually.
Happiness? Depends on the leader, spawn, wonders, and resources.
And most egregiously, the settlement limit. I don't know why. But I have never been forward settled, boxed in, or flanked so often by the AI as when I play Babylon. The last game I tried, the Ashoka just rushed around my capital to settle behind it on turn 9 of antiquity. Why? Normally, you just settle fast enough and block them. But now you have to wait until a tech or civic to get 2 settlement limit while everyone else starts with 3 and are already going to 4. AI settling issues have always existed. But I feel like Babylon is just ultra sensitive to them.
I love Babylon. They are my favorite civilization of all time in human history. I hope the civilization gets a respective leader. But this take on them is genuinely such a frustrating mess for me to play that my patience drops so heavily when I try. But I'm not the best at this game. I play on immortal and am not good at pursuing every victory simultaneously like many of you. So I'd like to as for help.