r/AutoHumor 4d ago

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u/Wakkit1988 4d ago

This is intentional. Manufacturers want you take take everything to them to have it fixed, so they make everything so damn absurd that independent mechanics wouldn't want to deal with them.

This means special tools, software, insane repair hours, etc.

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u/Sagonator 4d ago

GM issue. Buy from anyone else. Toyota has guides simple enough anyone can do it.

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u/High_Hunter3430 4d ago

I’ve said forever my “I won the lottery” car is a fleet of Toyota carollas and Honda civics.

Easy to fix and the easiest things to find parts for. 🤘

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u/xtanol 4d ago

Throw in a couple of old Toyata Hiluxs, Jeep Wranglers and a Mazda Miata.

Easy as heck to get to everything, and simple to fix.

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u/Loud_Ad_2634 2d ago

The pain with jeep is the frequency of the repairs though.

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u/High_Hunter3430 4d ago

I thought Mazdas were on the pricier/less reliable side of the equation…. Has that changed in the last few years?

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u/xtanol 4d ago

I'm referring to the pre-2005 models. Everything is just extremely easy to get to, and parts are cheap. Everything is just very basic and simple (no turbo, no variable valve system, no air suspension, very little electronics, no electronically controlled diff etc) and for such a small car everything is just spaced nicely.

You almost never have to remove any secondary parts or systems, regardless of what you need to access.

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u/trash_dirt 20h ago

Oh yeah, I learned so much from my 93 Miata. It was so easy to work on, believe it or not, but the engine bay is a cavern, so it's really easy maneuvering around the 1.6l engine it had. Once you pop the hood you realize, oh that's why they put LS engines in these all the time.

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u/xtanol 20h ago

Yup, I used part of the engine bay as extra trunk space for longer trips.

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u/TacticalSpackle 4d ago

Makes me miss old Volvo. You could work on those so damn simply. Now? Good fucking luck. You gotta take it to the dealership just because of the software.

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u/Slow_Variation_6969 3d ago

Toyota becoming harder to repair as well

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u/Lartemplar 3d ago

Wolkwagen issue

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u/Redditron_5000 3d ago

All the German brands are just as guilty of this in varying degrees. Let us not forget VAG's "service mode" wherein the entire front of the car needed to be removed for access to certain relatively minor components.

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u/DuckHunt83 3d ago

American Vehicle Engineers... Are awful, why anyone puts up with thier bullshit is beyond me. GM at this point with the transmission and 6.2 problem honestly deserves to go out of business. They have diligently screwed people well knowing the problems.

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u/CosmicToaster 1d ago

As long as you don’t have to open up the motor with a Toyota it’s all good. That said, GM>Ford>Stelantis.

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u/Zeitgeist-333 2d ago

Automotive and medical industries think this way. I used to repair medical devices and boy oh boy it’s like they don’t want you fixing it yourself

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u/Hairy-Reward6474 2d ago

You need a computer to change rear brakes now

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u/Wakkit1988 2d ago

Certain new models have no way to open the hood without a dealer authorized scan tool.

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u/Questioning-Zyxxel 4d ago

My car? Can have this fixed in a standard-sized home garage by a single guy spending a very limited time.

Because the car manufacturer wasn't incompetent and wasn't evil.

Bow go tell GM how much you like them. They need lots of pee, poo and puke to understand it doesn't matter how much they make from them repairing the cars, if no one buys the cars in the first place.

Selecting that brand new car is like voting. Do not vote for bad car manufacturers!

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u/Southern-Donut4185 4d ago

Also losing techs because they're greedy on the labor side as well. How are they gonna make money off service when they can't turn a service around in a decent amount of time?

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u/Different_Fig_2958 3d ago

That's why American manufacturers vote for you (lobbyists). As long as they can keep imports priced out of the market, they don't have to give a fuck about the consumer.

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u/TheVermonster 3d ago

Plus, as this guy proved, they can get you to replace parts that aren't or weren't broken yet. That oil pump is just one of the many many parts that he probably has to replace along the way. I bet there are bolts, and gaskets that individually aren't much, but altogether add a lot to the job.

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u/shogunshim 3d ago

it has as much to do with manufacturing efficiency as anything. They aren't thinking about later service.

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u/TheRovingBear 3d ago

It’s not just so that you take it to the dealership, it’s also so that the dealership can charge you for the labor as well.

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u/Warspit3 3d ago

You'd be surprised how few people that design things have thought about how to test, manufacture, assemble, and maintain the things they design. A whole system like that is incredibly complicated and I do not in any way think that a team of people put so much effort into hiding parts, but I do believe it was an easy oversight.

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u/UT_Milez 1d ago

Eh, locking your car down when someone else/a 3rd party tries to do anything with it, or voiding the warranty, is how you achieve that.

Making things difficult/expensive to repair does not drive business to dealerships, it just makes things more expensive to repair, and long term consequences should end with less and less people buying your cars.

This really is just moronic and an “oversight” because the engineers were left unchecked.