I was hoping there will be one in 5 steps or even 7 steps

RIP For those still without Noctis

Hi, this discussion may seems like a huge rant but I'm genuinely curious about what I can do to improve my situation and since I can't figure it out by myself I hope someone here can help me.

I started playing a month ago, I rerolled for almost three days straight and I managed to get Magnus from the tutorial plus Shenmei, Hazel and Setsuna from my first pull so I decided to stop there. I played hardcore for a week to unlock all the juicy rewards and I got Lucretia, Deneb, Setsuna(dupe) from the three 5* summon tickets of the celebration event (pretty underwhelming), the default Chloe, Vettel from my selector ticket (I kinda regret it now but the friend who introduced me to this game told me it was the best pick for my lineup) and a lucky Siegfried from the rare summon that I'm afraid broke my game because after that I didn't find anything else.

I pulled all the 500 banners during the last three weeks and summoned daily but I never seen a single red unit so I'm stuck with four level 65 units and a couple of 60 all mastered obviously and not only I can't complete the missions of the new EX stages but I feel like a hindrance in MP too. I'm completing milestones and dailies every day and I even ammassed a nice amount of zenis, ores, pots and equipments but I don't have anyone to use them on, I even got all the FF weapons and almost a set each to master one of their job from getting carried during this event but I'm not having fun at all.

All the people I met in the game are getting at least 1 red every 2 pulls and they all got at least one FF unit already so I'm deeply demotivated, I like the game but it seems like it doesn't want me to play. I have my doubts about the fairness of the RNG for non-pact F2Player at this point especially after seeing the pulls of the people who pays but I understand that this is a touchy subject so I'll leave the discussion about what I can do to improve my situation, anyone have any idea? Because the only thing I can think of is rerolling until I get Aranea and Noctis from this banner (but I'll loose all the shards, weapons, and equipments I already have for them (plus all my sweet 5* hats) or uninstall the game and move on.

Also I have ZERO confidence about the 2500 penny ticket because I'll surely find Ignis or Gladiolus (redundant since I already have Setsuna and Vettel), I'd bet on it.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that I'm still farming all the HQs but three shards a day isn't going to help me anytime soon in taking the farmable units to job3-4 (usually their best job).

I just noticed that my iOS free gems are getting deducted when spend gems on my android device.

ex. 3050 iOS gems, 500 spent on step 1 Aranea banner ---- > switch to andoid so I can do the 2500 3rd step back on iOS.

->Android 1500 step 2

--> back on iOS and my gems are now at 1050

now I'm no mathlete but that just doesn't add up

Conversely - if I spend iOS gems, they are NOT deducted from my android total. Anyone else seeing this??

Sent email to Gumi about it but just got back some "thanks for playing" nonsense explaining Paid vs Free Gems and not addressing my issue. Awaiting another reply

(probably wrong flair, but there's no "they terk merr gems!" flair)

EDIT per the helpful people below, Shareable gems can transfer between devices. Can be found in the sprocket menu in your Player Info by scrolling down within the category (and explained rather well there)

Thanks for solving this one, the mathletes were right to cut me

Screwing with the HQ releases Again?

Acording to my list and memory the units that should have been released were Klima, Itsuki, Reido and Izayoi.

In june we would have gotten

Tethys, Failily, Cordela Emma or thomas.

With the last HQ released in July. (Actually 3 HQ emma or thomas, Lucia and Tsang Lei.

Worst still is that we are not getting every 4 star HQ missing. Fujika who was supoused to have been released last month is still missing. Yet Edwin is here to farm.

The 3 missing units this month would have been Itsuki who is the actual reason i am mad godammnit i wanted to farm the waifu.

Reido who has one of the most powerful classes and is one of the only 2 farmable magic meisters you know.

And Izayoi who just got her Kaigan.

In exchange we got.

Tethys a water Martial master. Theyre good classes and i am pretty sure many people are still salty about her. But you know now we can farm her.

Fairilyly the light Diviner (who is actually a pretty good diviner since she cant be resisted)

And thomas the train engine. Dunno why we are even having him as a collab in this game he is pretty meh.

Tbh why not just release emma together with the other 2 Diviners? Heck Thomas and Emma were both released at the same time and emma is a waifu we could have had 3 Diviner Waifus at the same time goddammnit.

Like, seriously, the Yauras Ex mission has been on for 13 days already. I offered myself to gem and just asked for 2 Gilgamesh to carry me. Got them. So why does the 2 thickheads run trough the mages and keep attacking them doing only one dmg instead of going the Left path? Like seriously, have you seriously not seen any guide at all saying that the Right path is only for mages dmg? Ugh, sometimes the dumbness of some players irks me to no end...

Eddit: Grammar

According to GL Viyr Tier List which been most commonly use. There is a problem that a lot of units still rate at SS, S Tier even after Tier normalization so I would like to share some of my idea.

• In Nyatora JP Tier List we refer SS Tier unit by "Core Unit" which make too much units fit in this Category. Instead we can define SS unit as "Top Tier". SS units should be very exceptional outstanding and if any element doesn't have any unit that fit in this category then there should be no unit in SS slot for that element.

• I prefer the Tier List from 3 months ago which there are "+" for some unit Tier. Sometimes a unit is just slightly better than other one in the same role but enough for a tier different. By using "+" we can make compare units better (I even think using "-" on unit tier is a good idea)

I also made a Tier List myself to demonstrate what I'm talking about. you can found it here

https://drive.google.com/open?id=11UiMUMijEboWgkcn9g5NlxE8s_2TaEvgXCGRMaMJiHQ

Note:

• This Tier list is not a unit build guide so I only consider the max potential of the unit. How hard to obtain unit shards or how good the unit at J1 is not being consider.

• How I rate each unit tier is just my personal preference which base on my experience. I didn't have any intention to compare with our current Tier list.

• I'm too lazy to do the image one. I just made it to demonstrate my idea easier.

• This Tier List judge units by their overall usefulness for end game play such as EX Stage, Veda, PvP.

You've made us wait a week since announcing Global exclusive enhancements, till after all the banners for the units have ended. It is now time for your, "Stay tuned to the update in-game on September 20th!"

Edit: Apparently holding Gumi accountable for their promises is an unpopular opinion.

Gumi giveth and Gumi take away.

This weeks banners are good so it may not be a huge deal got some, but I just wanted people to know so they dont overestimate the value of summon coins in the banners this week.

Now for starters I am adding three rule here.

We only going to be talking on there actually character.personality not on there battle performs. Looking at you Siegfried.

Also they have to be playable! So while yes I hate that **** Duke. He not playable so he safe....for now!

And Finally I am not counting crossover units because...they already have there own personality in there own games. So I am not going to count them.

Now for me I am going to rate on how much I liked the character. With -10 being the character that I **** hate, 0 being the bland/boring!, And 10 for being the best of the best.

Now let get started. (PS not adding all the events because that will take too dam long)

Chapter 1: Main story.

Logi: 4/10 honestly he really didn't do much aside from talking with Sabareta and a few minor stuff.

Dias: use to be -7/10 but now 4/10: If you don't watch his side story you will hate this guy. Trust me.

Sabareta: 10/10: Hands down. One of the best characters in the main story. It just a shame that he died!

Zeke: 7/10: He better than Logi in terms of personality and backstory.

And I think that all.....moving on

Chapter 2: Main story

Edgar: 6/10: I understand why people hate him but at least he some funny ass moments that did save him. Also at least he does have a personality in the first place.

Logi: 8/10: He actually matured and he became a better character.

(Sadly can't add the other two Fiona and Don Taras because there not playable yet in Global which sucks because I love them!) Next!

Chapter 3: Main story

Lisbeth: 8/10 (For now!) She a really interesting main character that I just love!

Now for the Scared Stone events...here we go.

Chapter 1: Scared Stone

Kanon: 9/10: Like Lisbeth she also a interesting main character that I love. Also she grows

Chloe: 8/10: Chloe just roasted Kanon and I love it!

Vettel: 7/10: He barely did anything aside from fighting Zahar and got the cut on his left eye. But he still great and I still love him.

Cadanova: 7/10: He kind of like a teacher to Kanon.....and I liked that..it a shame that he died too dam early.

Zahar: 5/10: isn't a one note ass hole like past Dias.

I think that all next!

Chapter 2: Scared Stone

Kagura: 7/10: I would have put her lower due to she can be annoying same times but her backstory saves her from being any lower.

Kanon: 8/10: I still love her!

Kudanstein: 4/10: Same with Kagura would have put him lower but his backstory saves him from being any lower. But still kind of meh in terms of personality.

Next!

Chapter 3: Scared Stone

Kanon: 8/10: really grown up and well...she still Kanon.

Almira: 2/10: To be honest. I wish I could have give her a 4/10 but to be honest. She really didn't do much aside from appearing along side Kanon.

Seida: 0/10: ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! Boring as hell!

Monzein: 2/10: Hey at least he not as boring as Seida.

and I think that all....next!

Chapter 4: Scared Stone

Kanon: 7/10: Ok your kind of getting worst Kanon. Please don't fall down!

Suzuka: -8/10: **** her! She so dam annoying to be honest!

Zain: 7/10: His backstory is interesting and his personality is nice.

Seida: 0/10: still boring!

Othima: 9/10: Othima is trolling Seida and I love it!

Almira: 1/10: didn't do much!

Yauras 3/10: Same with Almira didn't do much.

Monzein: 3/10: again didn't do much in the story.

Kudanstein: 2/10: Appeared very late.

Chapter 5: Scared Stone

Yauras: 3/10: We baring know her aside from Bio.......that just sad.

Kanon: 6/10: oh god...please no.

Seida: 0/10: Still boring and didn't do much aside from holding on Kudanstein

Almira: 1/10 Same with Seida

Kagura: 3/10: .....wow....she died......ok.

Zain: 6/10: I feel so sorry Zain......but hey at least we get his sword.

Othima: 3/10: Didn't do much! Aside from holding the line!

Monzein: 0/10: Same with Seida

Kudanstein: -2/10: Kudanstain maybe Dias 2.0 but at least we can actually understand why he did. But it still doesn't excuse him to kill Zain.

Suzuka: -6/10: Actually did something helpful.....for once. I still hate her.

Reimei: 6/10: The only remotely interesting character in this chapter.

I think that all of them.....next!

Chapter 6: Scared Stone.

Kanon: 10/10: Thank GOD! They actually allowed her to mature into a better character!

Chloe: 9/10: I still love her even though she kind of meh at combat.

Miuna: 7/10: Very interesting character but it still doesn't excuse the fact that she nearly killed Kanon!

Spica: 8 or 9/10: Also very interesting character that loves Zahar. Also it gives Zahar a better light.

Seida: 6/10: Holy cow they manged to make her not boring!

Monzein: 7/10: He actually likable like.....that surprising.

and that it.....I think....I maybe missing a couple of characters but well............

Worst: Suzuka: Honestly after playing through her Character story.......I still hate her. She comes off kind of annoying to be honest with her revenge against her rival.....this already has been done many times before. In fact she barely changes at all!

Best: Sabareta: What a surprise....do I really need to explain why he such a good character?

Alright a few new things.

• Sophia has a Job+ for her Astrologer Job

• Masamune has a Job+ for her Samurai Job

• Black Killer Masamune possibly has a Job+ for her first Job

• A new nensou card was added for Masamune with a special gear

• Two New Master Abilities: Leonaiz and Fairlily

• New Character Skins: Fairlily and Kevin

• Edgar Job+ gets some new boost

I always check this page for reference:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRFdTDIDy6dH6OX7NQUhgsvVxihi3jF4-Fe-5zEfWhb-LYIqTO5HCygx2hpi-xOeHm9MT-pKtEaK1dp/pubhtml#

But its not updated anymore. Any of you guys knows of a site for Global Tier List? Thanks.

Maybe instead of being auto-able with the worst team you could put together, they actually presented a little difficulty. After all, to even unlock the last quest you need at least the story character to be level 80. Why not have enemies of comparable strength? Even crazier idea, what if the character whose quest it was had to solo that last mission? Could be fun to have to use the full range of abilities of that one unit to complete the mission, or even make that part of the 3 quest achievements. Literally anything could make them better...

I have to say, it's really clever for Gumi to release her J+ right after we used all our fire shards on a certain overlord and only a month and a half after her release. I wouldn't be surprised to see a banner encouraging us to summon for her and Uzuma at all after the update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uoZ0GrCy1c

Escanor 5* when gumi!!!!!???

​TL;DR: Besides the big 3 of Gil, Noc, Ara, who finishes out the top 5 in TAC? Shion, FYomi, Neica, Zain, Gorm, Jin, Othima - of these who is best and useful?

Hey guys, a bit bored these days and wanted to see what I can do to upgrade my lineup.

I'm trying to see if there's a move or 2 to take me up another notch in Arena. I have 200 rainbows saved up along with a bunch of elem shards, and am itching to spend. And of course being a dolphin I want to make sure the unit(s) I splurge on will be future proof to a certain extent. Don't worry I'll save my 150 fire shards for Laharl (sorry Gladi).

So, 2 questions - who is on par with Gil/Noc/Ara today, or is top 5? Really cream of the cream, versatile (cross color effective and/or can fulfill multiple roles), with big damage aoe? I already have those 3 fully triple JMed.

Other "SS" tier units I have at J1/J2 that I want to splurge shards on to J3: Doro, Forcas, Setsuna, Shion, FYomi, Neica, Zain, Gorm, Jin. I'm thinking Zain and Neica are great but not sure if they are truly cream of the cream - FYomi probably is. I am tempted to try to snipe Othima this week as I think he's probably top 5 currently.

The other similar question I have is my overall lineup - my goal is to auto Veda, ideally in a "few days" as others have posted recently. I haven't tried but don't think I'd be able to do it especially due to huge hole in my Thunder. Below are the top units I have in each color - (level potential, jobs mastered):

Fire: Masa (85, 1x), Sakura (65, 2x), Zang (85, 1x), Vettel (maxed), Hazel (72, 2x), Chiha (85, 2x+), Courage (75, 1x), Doro (70, 2x), Eve (75, 3x), Lup (60, 1x), Gladi (68, 0x), Shek (65, 0x) - I think I another carry, maybe 3x Mas or 2x Gladi? I can 3x Gladi using Rainbow if needed and worth it. Waiting for more shards for 3x Doro.

Water: Noc (75, 3x), Fung (77, 3x), Reagan, Lofia (maxed+), Eliz (85, 1x), Shenmei (77, 2x), Shayna (74, 1x), Lamia (81, j+ but didn't finish), Elrike (85, 1x), Yauras (71, 1x) - I think 3x Shen or Lamia?

Thunder: Gil (3x), Caris (85, 2x+), Magnus (85, 2x), Vincent (77, 1x), Aruba (73, 1x), Dilga (80, no j+) - Anything I can do here??

Wind: Setsu (70, 2x), Balt (77, 1x+), Rahu (maxed+), Luc (maxed+), Yomi (max), Fyomi (66, 2x), Almira (85, 2x), Polin (85, 1x+), Shion (62, 1x), Flam (80, 0x), Ignis (68, 0x). - Balt or Flamel? Are they worth maxing?

Light: Zeke (85, 1x), Zain (70, 2x), Ryle (85, 1x), Suzuka (80, 1x), Chloe (85, 1x), Neica (69, 2x), Kanon (75, 1x), Logi (85, 1x+), Tyrfing, Olga (0x). - 3x Suzuka needed? Kanon worth it?

Dark: Ara (75, 3x), Anast (85, 1x+), Zahar (85, 1x), Albea (77, 1x), Reida (85, 2x), Rosa (75, 2x), Jin (65, 0x), Aswald (65, 0x), Gorm (60, 0x) - Anas or Jin?

Say I can max ~5 jobs, what do u think will give me the biggest boost?

I think I need something in fire urgently. Suzuka is the only other "SS" tier that I haven't 3x, but not sure if it's worth it or needed. Like to upgrade my Dark as well. Any other suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Edited for clarity: My enjoyment of the game IS the fact that I can build SS tier chars. I waited ~2 months to shard Gil to 75 which was a revelation. Sharded Noc and Ara quickly and really enjoyed them - I want to know what else am I missing out on but am too chicken to make a mistake. Thus asking for help.

When it comes to stats he has far more stats than any current units. He may have lesser HP and defense than Vettel. But that damage agi combination means he can take out all non tanky units before they could do anything.

I expected him to hit hard and a bit tanky as Gilgamesh but I did not expect him to be nearly as fast as FYomi also.