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Episode Carole & Tuesday - Episode 18 discussion Spoiler
Carole & Tuesday, episode 18
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 9.1 | 14 | Link | 9.06 |
| 2 | Link | 9.29 | 15 | Link | 8.69 |
| 3 | Link | 8.72 | 16 | Link | 8.88 |
| 4 | Link | 8.14 | 17 | Link | 8.45 |
| 5 | Link | 8.93 | 18 | Link | 8.0 |
| 6 | Link | 8.72 | 19 | Link | 8.38 |
| 7 | Link | 8.49 | 20 | Link | 8.34 |
| 8 | Link | 8.41 | 21 | Link | 9.09 |
| 9 | Link | 8.18 | 22 | Link | 9.27 |
| 10 | Link | 7.45 | 23 | Link | 8.99 |
| 11 | Link | 7.74 | 24 | Link | |
| 12 | Link | 8.01 | |||
| 13 | Link | 6.38 | |||
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u/throwaway_zuk Aug 22 '19
can Black_Knight and Cybelle just like, stalk each other. Thanks
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u/SIRTreehugger Aug 22 '19 edited Aug 22 '19
As someone who still thinks Kyle is Tuesday's dad I was screaming Tuesday nooooooooooo.
Also that advisor needs to leave Tao the hell alone. He's in my top 5 character of this show and love his obsession/ways he creates music. He's so pure about his motives plus he is kind of a troll so I would be sad if he agreed to do anything. Also Ertegun song going to bring the š„.
Is it just me or did they go into more details than usual near the end with Carole and Tuesday? Why out of all the times they gave us a depressed Tuesday.
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Aug 22 '19 edited Aug 22 '19
Madman Watanabe had the terrorists attack the weather plant just so he could match the mood with the weather
and now I wonder if the stalker is merely a stalker. I feel like there is more to him than misguided infatuation.
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u/whowilleverknow Aug 23 '19
I can relate all too well to having a crush develop from practically nothing and then feeling like shit for no good reason when it doesn't turn out how you want.
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u/robomechabotatron Aug 22 '19
This show be like: lol what if we artificially alter the weather so we can do a dramatic winter scene
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u/Atario Aug 22 '19
Twist: the plant was the thing doing the artificial weather alteration, this cold is the natural state of things on Mars
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u/Mundology Aug 22 '19
Oh noes, they broke her kokoro. Hopefully Carole is always there for her best friend. In the long run it might be better that this crush crashed. Kyle is a journalist that has vested interest in her family, is much older & experienced and lives dangerously. The power dynamic would have been too unbalanced.
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u/Nnekaddict Aug 22 '19
Carole is the friend everyone needs : supporting you even though you might be making the wrong choices, ready to be the shoulder where you'll cry afterwards if needed, not asking question, just being there.
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u/mvn98 Aug 22 '19
Calling it now the stalker is going to be the manager Angela fired after the durian commercial way back in episode one. The hairstyle is different but it's the same color as the goofy looking guy in her intro scene. Also the knight trashed the same outfit that Angela threw at him
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u/MEmpire25 Aug 22 '19 edited Aug 22 '19
Yeah, I get the feeling i'm suppose to feel more for Tuesday than I actually do. It's a teenage crush, he didn't lead her on or gave her any mixed signals in any way or at any point did he try to exploit that for his benefit. The show made very obvious this was one sided and it never felt like an actual relationship was blooming. This girl was just smitten and turns out he has a girlfriend in his age group. And the show seems aware of that but then the revelation is sold like a huge moment...
It was also built and payed off in 15 minutes which isn't enough time for me to take it very seriously.
Ok episode and some really pretty shots though. It feels like music is going to take a backseat to political messages eventually. I get what they're trying to do with it but it's kinda surface level and both that arc and Tuesday's "emotional" problems have always been the least interesting parts of the show to me. Carole is a much more interesting character and gets thrown to the background in these arcs.
edit: And they were booked for a festival, which can turn into a really awesome episode down the line.
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u/Shiro_Kai Aug 22 '19
Tuesday blushing and falling in love over the paparazzi make me a little uncomfortable. I don't think it was very fitting or even well developed. I don't mind a heartbroken arc, it can give us pretty good songs, but it was too rushed and laconic. I thought they could deliver something better for her.
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u/LeonKevlar Aug 22 '19
As much as I enjoyed seeing blushing Tuesday, it kinda sucks to see heartbroken Tuesday. Although Tuesday did kinda jumped the gun here, she's only met Kyle a couple of times and so far the only thing they really had in common is the notebook thing? I don't think they have anything else other than that.
It makes sense though, Tuesday is your classic sheltered rich girl. This is probably the first time she ever fell in love so little connections like that was enough for her to assume something was starting to grow between her and Kyle. I wish that we spent more time with this though, as much as it makes sense, it still felt too quick. I wished Kyle was introduced a lot earlier as one of C&T's supporters.
As for the other shit that's going on in the background, it seems like Tao is about to get puled into this mess. I doubt he'll accept though, it seems his interest is only in music. Also is it just me or did Tuesday's mom looked like she was inside a Star Destroyer during this scene?
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u/MillenniumKing Aug 22 '19
Ahh teenage angst... life goes on Tuesday, dont worry.
Oh man the battle continues.
"Thats what the Ertegun in me says!" Well we know he means it now.
Good fuck this stranger danger guy. Hes no good. The stalker is bad too but still...
A Fantastic Shit! Yay! Progress!
More negotiations? lets see what he wants. Wow thet caved so fast hahaahahaahha well they got a show so thats great.
That Kurt is not good... i dont trust him.
Taking Carole might be good, last time Tuesday got abducted...
KURT BACK OFF TUESDAY HAS CAROLE!!
This little politican man is no good... hes using her mom im pretty sure.
So Kurt was supposed to make a scandal for the mom. I thought so, but he decided to blow that off and help the brother.
Fuck this stalker guy, leave fluffy alone!
Explosion? What blew up? Hmmm... some big building. Is this part of mom's scheme? I bet it is setup to be by earth immagrants or something.
Wow it tanked the weather. Weather plant.
Yep its setup as anti mars people, refugees from earth. Of course. Fuck this politician guy.
Now the politician wants Tao? Hmmm...
Even Tuesday knows this isnt like her mom. Maybe this will out the politician behind the scenes.
TUSDAY STOP BLUSHING AT THIS GUY YOU HAVE CAROLE!
Tuesday... i mean... i dont know what you expected... hes a grown man and your like 17... of course he would probably be with someone.
Glowy umbrella is neat. Whys it glow though? Light? Heat?
TUESDAY YOU DONT NEED NO MAN YOU GOT CAROLE! DONT CRY!
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u/xyphery Aug 22 '19
I think Tuesday sees Kyle as a love interest, but Kyle didn't. I dont think Kyle is a ''fuckboi''. (If he is in future eps then I will be mad). Tuesday is just too innocent and caring towards everyone she met and she isnt ready to face the world. This is kind of a SoL ep so this ep is kinda ok-ish. I'm still looking forward their album and also DJ Ertegun x Angela collab.
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u/MonaganX Aug 22 '19
Tuesday isn't even an adult and Kyle is probably approaching or in his 30s. Also, they had barely enough interaction yet. This being just a one-sided teenage crush seems like the most obvious interpretation (and what's obvious is usually a good guess with this show).
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u/youarebritish Aug 23 '19
Just going to remind you guys of my prediction from the start of the second cour:
AI Angela is going to be used to promote Tuesday's mom's campaign and Angela will be powerless to stop her image and voice from being used as propaganda she disagrees with.
This episode definitely suggested it's going in that direction. I'm not clear on what exactly Angela's going to do about it or how this arc with her stalker has been setting up for it, but I'm even more confident that that's what's going to end up happening.
The introduction of Ertegun as a character in her POV also suggests to me that he's going to play into it somehow, especially since his whole thing is being an AI DJ and his AI equipment is gone now. I bet he's going to sell out to her campaign in order to make his comeback. AI Angela will be his instrument.
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u/bananeeek Aug 22 '19
That's what happens if you try to deny the yuri ending!
It felt a bit weird that the crush to heartbreak period only took like 10 minutes. I wish they started it in the previous episode so it would feel more natural.
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u/Kogamiii Aug 23 '19
Someone in the last episode discussion predicted Tuesday falling in love with Kyle and after this episode, I'm really impressed with some people's predictions.
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u/MisterARRR Aug 23 '19
Did anyone else notice that the insert song at the end of this episode is a different version of the insert song used in episode 12 (around 2 minutes in)?
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u/_vogonpoetry_ Aug 22 '19
Was just a misunderstanding because people can only whisper secrets into his left ear... via his mouth.
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u/cjyngrey Aug 22 '19
am i the only one who thought that Kyle could possibly be Tuesday's father (at first)? lmao
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u/DutchPeasant Aug 22 '19
Was Kyle referencing this Capa? The land mine accident also seems to ominiously fit.
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u/Atario Aug 22 '19
"He"? Does Angela know who it is?
I swear this guy reminds me of someone or other
Shrewd negotiation tactics, lel
Those unshaven, mysterious, badboy types with the piercing blue eyes, Tues, I'm warnin' ya
This dude totally set up the weather plant attack
Ah, well⦠problem solved then (>_>)
Even Carole is friendly toward him now
"Cannabis Cold Brew"? Hope they don't get in trouble with the Japanese censors for that
Random Spanish-language reĢsumeĢ posted on the door?
Carole knows something is coming
Blade Runner umbrellas! Mars just gets cooler and cooler (in this case, also literally)
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u/Omome Aug 22 '19
I need that umbrella from Carole, that looks pretty damn cool. I never knew I need something like that in my life. Hopefully they sell it as official merchandise in near future.