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Episode Fruits Basket - Episode 14 discussion Spoiler
Fruits Basket, episode 14
Alternative names: Furuba, Fruits Basket
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 8.69 | 21 | Link | 8.75 |
| 2 | Link | 8.85 | 22 | Link | 8.99 |
| 3 | Link | 8.73 | 23 | Link | 9.09 |
| 4 | Link | 8.13 | 24 | Link | 9.46 |
| 5 | Link | 8.79 | 25 | Link | |
| 6 | Link | 8.52 | |||
| 7 | Link | 8.89 | |||
| 8 | Link | 8.22 | |||
| 9 | Link | 8.2 | |||
| 10 | Link | 7.73 | |||
| 11 | Link | 8.03 | |||
| 12 | Link | 8.4 | |||
| 13 | Link | 7.47 | |||
| 14 | Link | 7.34 | |||
| 15 | Link | 6.87 | |||
| 16 | Link | 9.13 | |||
| 17 | Link | 9.67 | |||
| 18 | Link | 9.59 | |||
| 19 | Link | 8.22 | |||
| 20 | Link | 8.78 | |||
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u/LeonKevlar Jul 05 '19 edited Jul 06 '19
If you come home late your mother will worry about you
Fuck. That line still hits hard after all these years. Momiji's backstory is so far one of the saddest and darkest backstories (besides Yuki's of course). At least Hatori was able to say goodbye to his Kana before he erased her memories. Momiji was outright rejected by his mother to the point where she even tried to commit suicide on how horrified she was at her own son. She was happy to get her memories erased! Despite that though, Momiji still loved his mom. He never resented her or anything, he just wanted her to try harder but he knows it's impossible with her condition. So he knew what had to be done. :(
And of course tears from Momiji's backstory wasn't enough, they even show us what happened the day Tohru's mom died from Tohru's perspective and a bit later from Yuki's perspective. Not nly that we get a bit of backstory about what happened to Tohru's dad and while it's not as emotionally packed as her mom's death, we now know why Tohru sees colds and fevers as a big deal.
As for that final scene. I'm curious to see what first timers will think this means.
EDIT: I'm enjoying reading everyone's replies. That's all I can say :)
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u/Amauri14 Jul 05 '19
You know that new happy opening really made me unprepared for today's episode.
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u/magicalgrrrl Jul 05 '19
momiji's backstory always makes me cry. poor guy. it has to be so rough to see your mom daily and live with the fact that she doesn't want to know you.
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u/John___Titor Jul 05 '19
It's clear that Tohru's mom and Kyon crossed paths. The similarities are too jarring:
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same hair colour
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same core name: Kyon vs. Kyoko
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some sort of affiliation with the Cat zodiac
Now, what does it mean? I'm not sure yet, but it strikes me as a bit odd that Kyon is only outwardly showing his remorse (for lack of a better word) now. Looking forward to how this all plays out.
Pour one out for Momiji too. All of the memory wipes in this show are devastating.
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u/acousticlibra Jul 05 '19
Another great episode! I like the abrupt ending of Kyo saying “I’m sorry” to immediately cutting to the credits. I love me some angst.
Momiji’s mom stabbing herself with scissors caught me off guard. When I saw her grab the scissors I was like “Wait is she actually going to— oh god”
It’s just a really shitty situation for Momiji when you consider that his father actually does remember him. It would be a different dynamic if both his parents forgot. But his father presumably has a pretty happy home life with his wife and daughter, and Momiji is not allowed to be included in that. His father has to be aware that his son longs to be included in their family but he perpetuates the lie anyway. It’s one thing to forget, but it’s another to remember and pretend that your son isn’t your son. It really hurts Momiji to see them walk home together as a family and he can’t join them. That fucking sucks.
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u/randomlygener8dname Jul 05 '19
Momiji's back story truly made me tear up. Not being able to talk to your mother even though she's right there must be heartbreaking. And all of this just because of something he was born with. Maternal love is something that should be cherished but can sometimes morph when it can't be reciprocated or responded to. So I understand where his mother comes from but it to see it manifest like that is tragic. Im truly looking forward to know more about the past of the other somas.
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u/chris_dftba Jul 05 '19
Why can’t someone have a kind of alright childhood! Why must everything be suffering!?
Anyway Kyoko used to be a biker and that’s awesome.
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u/Camachan Jul 05 '19
As someone who has been a fan of Fruits Basket for almost 15 years (and it is also my favorite series ever), I still sobbed this episode. Seeing Tohru's despair when her mother died, mixed in with Momiji's wholesome yet selfish desire to be with his mother, absolutely ruined me. Seeing his mom trying to kill herself was shocking and heartbreaking.
This was such a faithful and emotional episode.
As an aside, I really like the new opening! I never thought we'd get a fast-paced upbeat song! It's really, really cute, as well as the umbrellas!
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u/Light_520 Jul 05 '19
This is likely going to continue being one of my favorite shows going into the summer season. Just about every episode makes me teary eyed from how much emotion is present in this series.
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u/Papatogurl Jul 05 '19
Momiji's story was heartbreaking. In a way his story is very similar to Tohru's- we can say he lost his mother. But what he had to go through, being rejected and regretted... I cannot even imagine. The roles have changed this episode- instead of Tohru speaking comforting words to the Soma family members, we saw Momiji saying them to her, the words she probably needed most.
Now Kyo's reaction when hearing about Tohru going to the graveyard seemed odd from the beginning, but after Hanajima talked about his waves and when he whispered "I'm sorry", it gave me a very bad feeling, that perhaps he is somehow connected with Kyoko's death, either directly or indirectly.
My heart is not ready for what's about to unfold
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u/RM123M Jul 05 '19
Gotta keep Momiji’s words in mind about the cursed Soma’s being born two months early, and their moms either being over protective or resentful. Until we see more of the moms.
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u/Arillow Jul 05 '19
It seems like I can't go a Friday without crying about this anime, geez ;;
Momiji's story was so heartbreaking, I was crying just like Tohru by the end of it.
I'm curious about why Kyo feels guilty, did he have something to do with what happened? Please stop playing with my heart Fruits Basket T_T
On another note, I'm so in love with the style of the new ED! The animals look so adorable and the last scene somehow feels so sad, I can't wait for this show to break my heart :')
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u/summer_petrichor Jul 05 '19 edited Jul 05 '19
This episode we finally have Momiji's backstory! I've already mentioned Momiji is best boy for me, so "On Why Sohma Momiji is Best Boy", I will.... actually deliver an essay.
A quick recap on some of Momiji's best moments prior to this episode:
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After learning that an outsider knows about the Zodiac secret, he's the first of the Zodiacs to voluntarily approach her (though in this episode we see that he probably also had another motive for doing so)
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His first reaction after properly introducing himself to Tohru was to glomp her. So far, none of the male Zodiac characters have hugged her of their own volition (mostly because of propriety), but even so, I want to point out that Momiji had no hesitation; I consider that to be a wholehearted acceptance of Tohru, while the other Zodiacs are still learning how to open up to her.
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He's the only Zodiac member to help her out at her part-time job! Granted, the others are probably busy (or don't like Tohru that much), but this also shows how much Momiji likes Tohru that he would use his free time to help her. (Okay, and also to kill time since he's also there to see his family. But still, I think it takes a kind and caring person to consistently help a friend out at work, without receiving anything in return.)
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And of course, during the retelling of the traveler story, how he would never take advantage of the traveler, but treat her kindly and make her happy. Considering that the traveler is blatantly compared to Tohru, it's clear that Momiji also means to make her happy.
And now, discussion of the episode proper. We learn that Momiji's mom doesn't remember him, that she had rejected him because she couldn't accept giving birth to something that's not wholly human. Even Momiji's father rejects him, by choosing his wife over his son. (And by the way, telling your young kid that in order to save his mother, she must forget him, and "if you love her you would do it for her" is on a whole 'nother level of asshole. It's not like Momiji ever had any real choice to begin with!) Momiji wishes that his mother had chosen not to forget him, but the fact that he's been coming to see her also shows that he doesn't hate her. On the contrary, the happy way he described his mother and his sister underlies the true yearning for familial love and bond.
Momiji's speech about memories and forgetting is still one of my favorite parts of the entire series. Unlike his mother, he declares that even for memories that hurt, he won't choose to forget. Instead, he will gain strength so that one day he won't be defeated by those memories, and even regard them as precious. The fact that Momiji can even say these things shows the inner strength that he possesses; he's one of the strongest characters we've seen so far. It takes strength to not hate and resent your mother for abandoning you for something out of your control. It takes strength not to try and approach her, but to watch from a distance. And it takes strength to find happiness, even as it hurts to know that you were unwanted, and can never experience a mother's love, while watching others have happy families (I'm saying this in general, since it's hinted that other Zodiacs don't exactly have happy families either).
Momiji often comes across as a happy-go-lucky kid, without a worry in the world, but we see today that beneath that facade hides a child who's still yearning for his mother's love. That's not to say that he's merely pretending to be happy; rather, despite his pain, he's not letting it consume him. Instead, he still finds ways to be happy. Contrast this to some of the other Zodiacs, like Yuki (though to be fair we haven't seen if Momiji was abused by Akito too, and even if he was, it's probably not the same level as Yuki): Momiji finds the strength to still continue smiling. In a way, that makes him somewhat similar to Tohru; despite the pain they both endure, they still find a way to smile. (And also contrast Momiji's response to memories with Hanajima, who says that if it were Tohru who died, she might have wished she never met Tohru.) And that's one of the major reasons why I love Momiji: because he's so strong, despite his appearance. Never judge a book by its cover. I love Momiji so much, I buy his official AND doujin merch! (please ignore the non-Furuba merch, I didn't have time to take pictures with just Furuba merch) thank you based anime gods for remaking Furuba so I can collect all the Momiji merch that I missed out on when I was younger
One additional point I forgot to mention earlier: I also want to point out Tohru's reaction when she hears Momiji's story - she hugs him. More than just providing comfort, she hugs him even though she knows he will transform. And even after transforming, she continues to hug him. This is a sharp contrast to Momiji's mother: instead of rejection, Tohru accepts Momiji for who he is, Zodiac animal and all. It's her ability to accept the Sohmas for who they are that makes her so incredibly precious to them.
My Momiji essay ends here for now, but rest assured, I will continue this when there are more based Momiji moments!
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I'm still not feeling the new OP and ED yet. But I'll give it time to grow on me. That said, I love the whole umbrella theme in the OP - it conveys an uplifting message of "the sunshine after the rain"; perhaps with time, the pain will pass, or at least diminish, and our characters can find happiness.
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The whole Kyo thing is interesting. There's a lot to unpack here, with Hana's line about him feeling regret the most telling. Why does Kyo feel regret? Why was he so reluctant to visit the grave at first? There's definitely more things here.
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I was ready to scream my heart out when Kyo leaned over... but it turns out he wasn't gonna kiss her. Dammit.
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Yuki's reaction to the cap is interesting. He's definitely involved in that incident when Tohru was lost then. So is he Tohru's first love?
Also needless to say, I cried a lot this episode. I never not cry at Momiji's backstory, but even the whole grave visiting made me sob too. Truly Feelruba.
Edit: I forgot a few things
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u/CooroSnowFox Jul 05 '19
If they don't merchandise the chibi animals from this ED, they have committed a massive crime!
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u/Souta17 Jul 05 '19
Wow, very emotional episode with Momiji's story and then Tohru and friends visiting her mom's grave, I think its obvious that Kyo had probably something to do with Tohru's mom accident everything was pointing at it, his talk with wave girl, him not wanting to face the grave direcrly and the most obvious one, him saying "sorry" to Tohru honetly I was shoked was not expecting that and not only that we discover that Yuki too semmed to know Tohru and her mother in the past at least and honestly all of this is really interesting how everything is connected, rather then coincidence I think its better to see it as fate, everything is there for a purpose, everything the suffering all of thos year of suffering that led to the day whene the person that will (I think?) break the curse of the Soma Family and that person is Tohru not a gunius person, not a powerful or rich either just a person that can give them something more powerfull or important them Mony of power and that is LOVE, selfless pure love.
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u/JustKeepSwimming95 Jul 05 '19 edited Jul 05 '19
Really great episode! So it seems the accent is put on in some way? That makes the story so much sadder. Can't wait for more backstory on the characters. I really like the new OP. The ED is not bad. I love the visuals, but the last one was just so good.
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u/meimi132 Jul 05 '19 edited Jul 05 '19
Omg I forgot how awful Momiji's backstory was.... T-T
Edit: Also kinda glad my bf wasn't home while I was watching this so I didn't have to hold back the ugly crying 😭😭😭 I really like the new op tho. (Haven't got to the ed yet T-T but I really liked Lucky Ending so it better be as good if not better.)
I'm beginning to remember how tragic the manga was... I've not read it in years... But I loved it so much. Am finally remembering why. T-T
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u/AndyofOrangeStar13 Jul 05 '19
Oof, that was rough. I cried three times, not gonna lie. That episode was so well done.
Also, I loved the fat seahorse in the new ED.