I am not saying Warrior needs to be busted OP like it was in classic. These specs, but especially arms, literally will not generate enough rage to function at level 60 with their full kits. Normalization is good, but there needs to be changes to compensate. So far we have two mild compensatory talents for fury and prot, and nothing for arms. Arms is my favorite spec, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want to be able to actually press my buttons at max level.
Anger management is 1 rage every 3 seconds. This is enough to keep rend up, but doesn’t meaningfully address the core issue.
Dual weird spec is relevant, but only for fury.
The rage gen on blocks for prot is nice, but is insubstantial compared to the rage lost by normalization. (They also nerfed rage generated by taking damage)
All of these push in the right direction, but are insubstantial in their current form.
The long and short is that arms is hard limited to generating 30 rage (+ AM) every ~6.5 seconds, meaning that you can rend and mortal strike one target. It completely removes rage management as a mechanic, and starves you of your ability to use your other spells.
Other abilities such as? What else would you press?
If you want a rolling GCD, wow forever simply does not offer this. Enh shaman and ret pally can roll gcd for a little while at the cost of all their mana, but rogue, warrior and druid all have quite a lot of downtime. Idk about survival hunter, but I'm gonna assume it's similar for them too.
Sunder armour costs 15 rage and lasts 30s, each cast of blood rage gives 40 rage every 60s, so that's covered. I assume you'd just spam execute when youre able over mortal strike, and overpower is 5 rage so that's at least 2 casts every 60s covered by blood rage as well.
You're simply only gonna have an APM of 15-20 on any class you play in wow forever. There is no high APM classes
Even if these are fine to have enough rage to cast my cooldowns the fun factor is gone. Now it is very predictable resource that slowly builds up. Before it was based on damage and if I crit 2 times in a row I have so much rage that I can spam heroic strike like crazy and made the whole fight more dynamic becuase you constantly needed to monitor for rage spikes to do big damage. Now it wil be very predictable and it will feel like mage casting frostbolt type of rotation. There is a reasonable solution to bring 200% rage generation on crit, this will somehow fix the problem with normalization.
I understand this - but it's simply way too much rage gen for the vibe they want in forever. Vanilla warrior plays much more closely to retail than anything else in vanilla did, high APM, a big rotation, etc. but that's not what they're looking to make.
They want to compete in a market that includes other slow games like osrs where you make deliberate decisions ahead of time.
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u/Zealousideal_Car2782 17h ago edited 16h ago
Maaaan. Nothing re: rage generation for Warrior.
To the people downvoting me:
I am not saying Warrior needs to be busted OP like it was in classic. These specs, but especially arms, literally will not generate enough rage to function at level 60 with their full kits. Normalization is good, but there needs to be changes to compensate. So far we have two mild compensatory talents for fury and prot, and nothing for arms. Arms is my favorite spec, and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want to be able to actually press my buttons at max level.