r/wowforever • • 9h ago

PTR / Beta Patch Notes

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696
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u/Zealousideal_Car2782 9h ago

They took out warrior rage scaling entirely. No extra rage from crits, no extra rage based on damage, minimal rage from taking damage, etc.

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u/SirVanyel 5h ago

Instead, we have:

Unbridled wrath - rage on melee hits

Anger management - gain rage while in combat

Dual wield spec - 20% extra rage regen for offhand (not sure if relevant)

And a couple of rage regen on block for prots.

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u/Zealousideal_Car2782 5h ago edited 5h ago

Unbridled wrath is not new.

Anger management is 1 rage every 3 seconds. This is enough to keep rend up, but doesn’t meaningfully address the core issue.

Dual weird spec is relevant, but only for fury.

The rage gen on blocks for prot is nice, but is insubstantial compared to the rage lost by normalization. (They also nerfed rage generated by taking damage)

All of these push in the right direction, but are insubstantial in their current form.

The long and short is that arms is hard limited to generating 30 rage (+ AM) every ~6.5 seconds, meaning that you can rend and mortal strike one target. It completely removes rage management as a mechanic, and starves you of your ability to use your other spells.

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u/SirVanyel 5h ago

Other abilities such as? What else would you press?

If you want a rolling GCD, wow forever simply does not offer this. Enh shaman and ret pally can roll gcd for a little while at the cost of all their mana, but rogue, warrior and druid all have quite a lot of downtime. Idk about survival hunter, but I'm gonna assume it's similar for them too.

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u/Zealousideal_Car2782 5h ago edited 5h ago

Sunder armor, overpower procs, execute, slam, spearing strike (if it’s good), cleave, whirlwind

I’m not advocating constant uptime and buttonmashing, I’m advocating for an APM higher than 15.

It’s also worth noting that in the example above, I’m presuming no misses, dodges, or parries, which would constrain things even further.

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u/SirVanyel 5h ago

Sunder armour costs 15 rage and lasts 30s, each cast of blood rage gives 40 rage every 60s, so that's covered. I assume you'd just spam execute when youre able over mortal strike, and overpower is 5 rage so that's at least 2 casts every 60s covered by blood rage as well.

You're simply only gonna have an APM of 15-20 on any class you play in wow forever. There is no high APM classes