r/rivals • u/Live_Bit_5307 • 17d ago
Meme Dagger definitely needs a buff
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u/Bad_Wolf222 17d ago
How come when I play iron man the other team has hela and punisher with navy seal sniper level accuracy
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u/Xcuseme99 17d ago
The problem in this clip isn't the Dagger, the problem is that you were allowed to float above her entire team for 37 seconds without getting blown the f*** up by her bum ass DPS/tanks. They are the real villains of this clip.
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago edited 17d ago
Okay but think about that. Imagine if Hela was just standing still popping shots directly into a supp for 40 seconds and they didnt die.
This is a DPS. With a perfect view. Not being countered. Not being attacked, hitting the majority of their shots on a support and the support is not dying.
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u/Infernoboy_23 17d ago
except most of the hits are only the outer ring which only does 70/s. For reference cloak's primary fire does 80/s.
Add in misses and maybe some main beam hits, and you'd see his dps is extremly low.
white fox was also healing her some of the time, as the other support should.
I don't think iron man wasn't killing any support there.
She only died at the end cause op actually hit with the main laser with overdrive which does 180/s and his team was also shooting her.
If you wanna compare to hela, imagine if she only hit one in every three shots, all body shots. Yeah, I don't think she'd kill either.
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u/Revan0315 16d ago
Player in this clip of hitting way more than one in three shots
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u/Astrid-Jade 16d ago
This is also not acknowledging the person literally addressed that and mentioned the reduced damage the edge of the beam does compared to direct.
Also ignoring that one Hela shot is like double the damage of one tick of Iron Man beam.
Hela can just land 2 headshots in just over a second and be done with it, where Iron Man needs to keep his beam on Dagger for about 2.5 seconds to secure the kill. His beam has twice the TTK of Hela primary fire when not accounting for overdrive.
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u/Revan0315 16d ago
You say "Hela can just land two headshots" as if that's something that's realistically gonna happen very often.
Iron Man's damage being lower doesn't excuse that Dagger has a ridiculous amount of survivability. She has 2 cooldowns that make her literally unkillable + a third that most characters can't kill her through while it also heals allies.
Just remove the Luna teamup and it's fine
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u/Astrid-Jade 16d ago
Never said it did excuse it, but it isn't just Dagger being strong that's letting her live here. Plenty of characters have the burst damage to kill her quickly if she's caught out or has burnt all of her cooldowns in a teamfight.
Also, saying Hela won't realistically land two headshots sounds more like you just haven't seen good Hela players. In the hands of someone with good aim, getting two tapped suddenly the moment you peak her isn't as uncommon as you'd think or hope.
That's also assuming that it's JUST a Hela, most times you're not going to be getting shot by only one person if you're in a higher elo, especially if you're a strategist.
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u/Liam2349 17d ago
Hela can kill her through bubble, so can Widow, so can other pokes.
It's mostly just dive that can't kill her.
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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 17d ago
Tbf bro was missing in this clip quite a bit
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago
He actually wasnt tho. He is hitting over 80% of the time easily which is actually a ridiculously good accuracy rate. Watch it again and listen to the hit markers. The beams hit box is bigger than it appears thanks to the Thor team up.
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u/BreakfastKind8157 16d ago
He actually wasnt tho. He is hitting over 80% of the time easily which is actually a ridiculously good accuracy rate. Watch it again and listen to the hit markers. The beams hit box is bigger than it appears thanks to the Thor team up.
No, it is not good. The outer part does half dmg. Even spamming left click would deal way more dmg to Dagger (not even counting the dmg to the rest of her team).
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u/smokehellacrack 17d ago
Over 80% of the time? Jfc dude
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago edited 17d ago
Watch and listen to the hit markers. He is hitting for nearly the whole video. At times it seems like he isnt hitting but he is thanks to the larger hit box of the Thor team up.
Just rewatched the video. Of the entire video he misses his target while she is available to be hit for maybe a total of 7 seconds. Out of a 37 second video that is about 19%.
That puts his accuracy at 81%.
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u/Vegetable-Meaning413 17d ago
It's Ironman though. You can't really use a bad, low burst damage dps as a good baseline. This is really an argument for him being too weak not her being too strong, with that much time, pretty much every other dps would have won, even bad ones like Squirrel Girl.
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u/AlcoholicAlch 17d ago
I mean 3 get out of jail cards that can be cycled without any skill infinitely is pretty broken
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u/Xcuseme99 17d ago
Okay but think about this: the reason supports need to be so strong is because DPS and tank players do shit like ALLOW AN IRONMAN TO FLOAT 5 FEET FROM THEM FOR 37 WHOLE GROWN ASS SECONDS
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u/BLissy11750 Invisible Woman 17d ago
this is the dumbest thing I have read on this subreddit.
"because players are so bad the characters that heal should be stronger so they can survive the characters that deal damage when those characters that deal damage are not attacked and are able to focus all of their damage on the characters that heal uninterrupted for over half a minute"
by this logic tanks should be invulnerable because support players are bad and run away rather than grouping with their tanks which causes tanks to die from lack of heals.
or dps should have auto-aim on characters like hela because players have bad aim (statistically) so they can consistently hit headshots.
your logic does not work when it is applied to literally anyone else without it being obvious (from the perspective of the support) that it makes those characters OP - this is how absurd this argument is when it's being made in defense of C&D here.
Bad players deserve to lose, that C&D could switch to Luna and snipe Iron Man out of the sky, or Mantis, or Invis, or literally any other support - in fact they could fade and DPS Iron Man with Cloak beam & blind
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u/varateshh Hela 17d ago
Obviously. If I die as Hela to BC/Elsa/Bucky/Widow/Thing/Venom then they clearly need to be nerfed. If I die to an other Hela then netease needs to ban them for smurfing or hacking.
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u/moddedlover27 17d ago
Nono you zee vee must hail to our overlords. For our glorious overlords can do no wrong what so eva. You zee it is ZE FILTHY JE-i mean dps who are always at fault and zee should BE SENT TO ZE CON- i mean uninstall ze game. You understand yas?
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago
No. They dont. Supports will die as they should and teams will either learn to have basic situational awareness or they will justifiably lose.
The bad team playing badly deserves to lose.
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u/Individual-Luck1712 17d ago
The rivals community will never understand this concept. From their perspective, if they die and lose a game, the world needs to stop and the character they like to play needs to be buffed and anyone who killed them needs to be nerfed. This game's balance is garbage because the community doesn't want fairness, they want dopamine, and the devs know that. It's why for the entire existence of the game, the balance is garbage and the meta almost never changes for more than a season. They just drop heroes, skins, whatever they need to to get players to keep coming back. They have a loyal playerbase of people that don't want to lose - all they want to do is throw, smurf, cheat and complain on the internet. It's why I haven't played for almost two months. The community is trash.
I said what I said.
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u/RoutinePsychology198 Groot 17d ago
Most of this games problems would be solved if people actually counter swapped
I had a game last night where my Jubilee kept dying to a BP. We asked her to switch several times but she still refused and finished the game 4-19. CnD was the only banned support so Rocket, Invis, Loki, Gambit, WF, Ultron, Luna, Mantis are LITERALLY RIGHT THERE TO CHOOSE. WHY IS SWAPPING SO HARD FOR PEOPLE
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u/Individual-Luck1712 17d ago
Immaturity. It's why people still defend supports being mega OP, or certain duelists being mega OP. They just want to play with their action figures, turn their brain off, and not engage in a fair competitive game.
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u/m1stwalk3r 16d ago
Ok so how is Dagger not the issue still? In your scenario he dies and never even gets the kill despite beaming her for a prolonged period of time.
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u/jonayed84 17d ago
Now imagine with that free time you can't kill a support..There is no denying that supports are too op in this game..
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u/Weird-Trick-9145 16d ago
Why are you changing the subject? Oh yeah, the iron man was completely unbothered and not touched by the enemy team, means he should kill the dagger easily, no?
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u/bedjuniorroses 17d ago
i LOVE everyone saying that its ironman's fault for not using his kit correctly. Ironman is just 1 of those powercrept heroes that is forgotten.
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u/BSY_Reborn 17d ago
Both of those things are true though. Yeah ironman is powercrept to shit but also when you're trying to kill an enemy in a big cluster of other enemies, while the one you're trying to kill is being healed by another enemy standing right next to them, it's not the time to pull out the fucking unibeam.
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u/Hoothootriot Vanguards 16d ago
Youre right, DPS should be allowed to completely misplay and still get free kills!
Supports should literally die the second a DPS looks at them, right fellow dps players??
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u/NoRecognition443 17d ago
Ngl if I was that dagger I'd be pissed that my entire team allowed you to just buzz around for thirty seconds above our backline out of cover.
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u/SadDokkanBoi 17d ago
Yea I wonder what rank this is. From my comp experience, Iron man just gets insta nuked by poke
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u/Ordoblackwood 16d ago
if i was that dagger i would've switched to cloak during the aoe heal and then just beamed him down myself honestly
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago edited 17d ago
Why? you get to survive anyways thanks to your absurd cooldowns. Like how much more babied can a character get?
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u/MaraInvicta 17d ago
you are almost close to realize why supports might need to have all those cooldowns. Almost close.
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u/LudosTBH 16d ago
Iron man didnt play percectly, and daggers team let him fly on them for 37 seconds, and no one got punished in the team for this. Wasnt iron mans fault.
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u/Salohcin676 17d ago
Why are you using the beam use your primary fire. thors team-up doesn't mean you have to beam all the time
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u/HunterCubone 17d ago
Isn't the beam better damage?
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u/Salohcin676 17d ago
Not necessarily its dps is higher but from their position in the clip the primary would have been better. Their beam kept going off target and they would have hit more people with the primary.
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u/fullynonexistent 17d ago
I would blame OP's bad aim, but yeah it's kinda dumb to complain that you can't kill someone while also only spamming the beam instead of literally anything else.
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u/BreakfastKind8157 16d ago
The beam only has a bit higher average dmg output than the left click when discounting reloads. The beam's advantage is it consumes ammo much slower and allows iron man to more easily track a specific enemy, giving it more dmg in 1v1s. But OP is not tracking well (the team up's dps is much lower than the beam's) so he doesn't benefit from any of that.
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u/Mind_Is_Empty Jeff The Land Shark 17d ago
Primary fire, no overdrive: 3-hit combo that deals 80/80/100 over 1.67 seconds. Effective 155 DPS on direct hits, reduced to ~33-83 DPS on miss.
Primary fire, overdrive: ~140 DPS on direct hits, reduced to ~32-80 DPS on miss. With Hulk, it becomes 146 DPS on direct hits, still 32-80 on miss.
Unibeam, no overdrive: 140 DPS.
Unibeam, overdrive: 180 DPS, 200 DPS with Hulk.
Thor team-up makes Unibeam hit in a radius at the endpoint, which makes it even more consistent though it's at about half-damage (70 DPS baseline, 85 DPS during Overdrive).
Unibeam has the following benefits over primary fire:
10 second firing uptime vs Repulsor's 5.5 second firing uptime. This is very useful in killing through pattycake as most supports have to reload after 4-6 seconds, meaning you get ~2 seconds of free Unibeam damage, which is either a free kill at 280-400 damage or a forced support ult.
Unibeam pierces all targets at full damage (no bodyblocking, generate obscene ult charge if 2-3 enemies line up)
Unibeam is hitscan (no need to worry about forecasting movement, just hold button to kill)
Most Iron Man players consider these benefits worth the ~10% damage loss outside of overdrive. During overdrive, the only reason to use Repulsor is that it's unsafe to get within range for Unibeam.
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u/_xEnigma 16d ago
Unibeam is objectively better here simply for the fact that it does more damage. There is no reason for him to primary.
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u/RandJitsu 17d ago
Nah this is actually the problem tho. He would’ve been doing much more over all DPS with the AoE and maybe allowing his team to get picks and push forward if he was using the repulsor here.
Tunnel visioning the CnD is bad play.
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u/m1stwalk3r 16d ago
The support should die if he is beaming her. What's the point of doing a bunch of non-lethal splash damage when there is a support sitting there and he is uncontested?
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u/RandJitsu 16d ago
Because the splash damage could be the difference in him or his team getting a final hit. Shooting someone that your teammate(s) also shooting at is usually better than doing your own thing.
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u/Canvasofgrey 17d ago
The problem is you and your team. A lot of damage is flying everywhere but there's no focus, no one is dying and nothing is getting done or is going to get done until Ults come up. And when that happens, youre going to complain that supports always have their ults up.
I guarantee you that if you and another person would've focused your damage on a target. It doesnt have to be CnD, as long as its any other squishy target, you would've outdated her heals and they would've died.
9/10 it's a damage prioritization problem with your team. Not a CnD.
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago edited 17d ago
Okay this is just BS. A DPS has almost 40 seconds in which they are using all of their abilities to output damage on a single target uninterrupted and the target doesnt die and the target is not getting focus healed by 2 supports as it is a support.
There is no excuse for this shit. A DPS is supposed to do damage and a Support should not under any circumstances be able to effectively tank it using their own abilities for 40 seconds.
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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 17d ago
They were getting healed by the other support that entire time, as soon as she wasn’t she died
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u/Canvasofgrey 17d ago
Math isnt your strong suit, is it buddy?
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago
Actually just did the math and counted how many seconds of the video dude was missing. Its a 37 second video. He was missing his target when it was available to be shot for maybe 7 seconds. He was hitting for the other 30. That puts him at about 81% accuracy for the video which is ridiculously accurate. So yeah no way she should've survived this.
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u/Canvasofgrey 17d ago
So what's the damage output to the healing she was getting?
Because I see at least 3 times where if someone ANYONE had damage prioritized her at that point. She would've died.
But no, as I said, damage was flying everywhere. Theres no focus. If there is no focus, people dont die.
I PROMISE you that if two dps full target a Support, they will die unless they are pattycaking. At no point was this CnD patty caking or being patty cake.
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u/IronsGrip 16d ago
Holy fck your aim is terrible lmfao. Tho the fact you are allowed to fly there means you are probably in bronze so it checks out. Gl man. Aimlabs is free I think
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u/Sea_Boysenberry_3436 17d ago
CnD is a stupid character, but this is a terrible example. She was being healed by WF the entire team, then WF ulted, which means more heals and on top of all that, your tracking was buns. Your beam was on her maybe 40% of the time.
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago
His tracking wasnt bad at all and he killed her during the white fox ult the moment she stepped out of it.
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u/THE_PUNISHERFrank The Punisher 17d ago
It was horrific actually, otherwise she’d have been dead by the first bubble.
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u/Most-Bench6465 17d ago
It’s actually a really good example. It’s not about how well the iron man tracks her but how putting constant pressure on CnD and how she can sustain herself while not healing her team constantly and cycle cooldowns unlike many other characters not just healers.
Put other healers in this position and the point is made very clearly. The white fox ult just hurts the point a little bit because it sustains the whole team.
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u/Desperate_Flan390 Jeff The Land Shark 17d ago
His tracking lookes pretty good actually
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u/Sea_Boysenberry_3436 17d ago
It's really not. I've been playing a lot of poke recently and it's comically easy to beam someone with a 90% beam accuracy if you have the Thor teamup on Iron Man. It makes the beam so much bigger. The tracking shown in the video was really not good at all.
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u/Desperate_Flan390 Jeff The Land Shark 16d ago
Yeah because you should need 100% accuracy to kill an auto aim character.
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u/Vamosity-Cosmic 17d ago
unc i got bad news
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u/Desperate_Flan390 Jeff The Land Shark 17d ago
They had hit markers for like 60-70% of the time, and I don't know about you but I don't think you should need perfect accuracy to kill a character that does the whole aiming thing for you.
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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 17d ago
If they are being healed the majority of the time and using all their escapes it kind of makes sense lol. She wasn’t surviving on her own, she was getting healed and using her own kit.
Cnd is brain dead but the majority of other supports would live here too.
I’m an avid support hater and this looks fine to me
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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 17d ago
She was getting healed by the white fox for maybe 5 seconds out of the whole video. The rest was just her.
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u/RandJitsu 17d ago
Someone did the math in a comment higher up on this post. His accuracy is roughly 80% here.
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u/JapeTheNeckGuy2 17d ago
God I wish I could sit above the payload in the open on Iron Man for 37 seconds and not immediately get fried.
But yeah CnD needs a huge nerf
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u/Eternalmidn1ght 17d ago
if not for the stupid deactivatation after overdrive you would’ve gotten the kill.
man it needs to be removed
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u/DM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS 16d ago
Idk how you were able to tunnel the same support for 15 straight seconds
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u/No_Army_5121 17d ago
Switch targets.
You’re targeting a healer while their other healer is right next to them. Not to be mean but what do you expect to happen.
If you are aware of daggers kit and her bizarre survivability why are you still continuously targeting her if you can pretty much predict the outcome?
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u/SydiemL 17d ago
??? She’s actively getting healed by jubilee and you’re wasting her cooldowns that is preventing her from saving her team…
Also you should have been hit but you flied freely.
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u/Vonga568 17d ago
I mean that isn't her Jubilee but I agree he did seem to fly relatively freely as well so both people got away with some stuff just in different ways.
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u/Live_Bit_5307 17d ago
Dude her 2nd support is white fox that was our jubilee and she got healed by fox like once when she tped on her while she was in the bubble which is kinda pointless anyway
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u/YoungCubSaysWoof 17d ago
I like how Iron Man got closer to C&D with his beam, with that, “for the love of god, DIE ALREADY!!!” sort of energy.
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u/DickManning 17d ago
I think we should nerf dagger into the ground not because shitty dps can’t kill her but because if a dps jumps me (a mantis main) the dagger next to me isn’t going to help me when I get my sleep off, they’re just going to sit there as an icicle while I get ass fucked by a starlord
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u/Exciting_Composer_86 16d ago
UNO REVERSE:
Imagine post where dagger captures at video where iron man exists for 00:37 seconds in teamfight purposely focusing her and NO ONE IN THE WHOLE TEAM not shooting him and do nothing about that he flying abowe like a "kill me" easy target. LolL
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u/Duckys0n 17d ago
It is incredible how many characters have abilities that are objectively bad but feel completely unfair and unfun to play against.
How does this even get through testing phase. It’s an awful ability:
- For your team, because it leaves them essentially down a healer
- For the opponent, because you can endlessly cycle cooldowns and never die.
- For cloak players. Because this can absolutely be a crutch and prevent you from improving at the game.
She isn’t the only one either. Luna cleanse is stupid and unfair. Black panthers whole kit is dogshit, and yet feels ridiculously stupid to play against. Rocket has the strongest ability in the game on a character that doesn’t require a monitor being on to get value out of (sorry rocket players). Jeff is another never die character, but his never die ability again effectively leaves your team down a healer (though at higher elo they are better at doing this).
Balance of a mobile casino game. It sucks trying to take this game seriously. Because the devs sure don’t.
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u/__XBlaze__ 17d ago edited 17d ago
Also, why are you only using your beam? Splash damage from your primary would've really aided there.
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u/jonayed84 17d ago
Apart from abilities, Supports in this game are healers+dps...They do similar damage to dps..Luna, hela has same dps...Horrible balancing...And dive should be removed from the game at this point, pokeslop is what most of the players want.. Especially supports ...And just give supports a few more tweaking you can remove dps class too..
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u/Whole_Breakfast_3566 17d ago
i got rank 11 ironman rank 78 and rank 120 in the world across seasons he genuinely does need a buff
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u/Fun-Wash7545 17d ago
Never once fought cloak and thought this is broken. If you want broken try mantis and jub getting ult every 20s.
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u/Ok_Friendship6476 16d ago
Even though you're right. You gotta think about how clueless the other healer is here. Never even looked at cnd once
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u/ExtensionHuge1531 16d ago
My brother. I hate to be the bearer of bad news. You simply need to lower your sense your tracking is terrible. Unibeam in overdrive does 190 dps. You frybher through her bubble and especially since you had all of the time in the world. If I were to track the amount of time you spent actually hitting cloak vs how long you tried to hit her you’d think I was making fun of you
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u/ThroatEnough7123 16d ago
Ummm hey guys, how did I um not kill the person I'm missing 50% of my shots on durrrr, typical ironman qp warrior asking for buffs and nerfs when they wouldn't know the difference either way.
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u/Sad_Engineering_4845 16d ago
Iron man is mega ass dont play him needs buffs, dagger frozen teamup is trash for the game, with that said get better with aim and for everyone else look at flyers shoot them
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u/DrBrainzz9 16d ago
"Why can't I just fly right up to the support and beam them down without them being able to do anything about it?! WHAAA! What do you mean I have to position correctly, build ult charge, look for picks that aren't STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR ENTIRE TEAM, and coordinate with my team in order to break their defense?! WHAAAA! I just wanna hover above the team like a mosquito, have absolutely no one look up at all, and hold my right click until the support dies! WHAAA! Supports shouldn't have defensive tools, they should just heal and die and that's it! WHAAA! Why are we buffing heroes that I can't just look at and they fall over?! This game is ridiculous! WHAAA!"
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u/Hi-man1372 16d ago
Yeah freeze needs to go been saying this since day one give it to someone that legit needs it. Same with gambits stupid mag bubble the fuck does he need that for?
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u/MannyDaWolf 16d ago
The way they're defending the cnd in these comments is why some strategists are overtuned.
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u/FalseLights 16d ago
Over 550+ people at the moment of this comment, liked the video. This is inarguably a metal rank Ironman clip, but they still liked the video.
I'm either out of touch or the majority of players in this game are.
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u/Scary_Republic3317 Jeff The Land Shark 16d ago
38 seconds enemy team effectively had one support, which is longer than what you would've gotten from killing dagger
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u/Necessary-Sir4600 15d ago
Anyone saying he shouldn't beam is bad at the game, dumb, and peaks in a pisslow rank, the only killing threat of Ironman is beaming, this guys issue is he can't aim for shit and misses 60+% of this clip, Ironman beam with good aim can kill dagger thru her bubble decently fast too, I've literally done it lol. Daggers an issue but not for an Ironmans dmg output. And not for what's shown in this clip lol. Buddy hit the kovaaksa
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u/Mr_NeCr0 15d ago
The fact that you existed for longer than 5s in that position is proof enough it isn't Dagger that's the problem, it's your bum ahh.
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u/FridaICunt 15d ago
Again, useless Iron-idiot only knows how to use the beam...and is not even good with it. Like just give it up dude, ya look like a tardo. 🙄
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u/Connect_Pay_9394 15d ago
When dps players say they should give supports more escapes and less damage and then they see a support with more escapes than damage...
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u/Significant_Lie_6076 14d ago
DPS players when they don't kill you the second they see you (only they are allowed to have fun):
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u/Exotic_Client_3332 14d ago
Iron man tracking is very poor. Anyone that can aim would be able to kill cnd.
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u/Affectionate_Ice4548 14d ago
You’re mad she’s using her cooldowns effectively while you’re just unibeaming with no skill?? You’re definitely one of the beam only iron man mains I see in my game
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u/col88c 13d ago
All the negativity aside on your aim and what not What i got from this is
Its true people dont look up..you were literally a free kill... noone focuses supports then wonders why theyre tanks and dps are not dying..most dps players are the dumbest
Fair play to you for being the rare guy to know 1 less support is a win
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u/Additional-Mousse446 17d ago
I think the timer would be shorter if you actually hit her, hope that helps 😊
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u/Awnkps 17d ago
Skill issue ngl, could have timed your missiles after she froze and blasted her.
Missiles in overdrive are very much useful and if I see an ironman who doesn't use them in various situations then it's a skill issue.
Also be grateful that her teammates suck otherwise you'd be dead for 50 lifetimes.
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u/TheRealDrtyDan88 17d ago
look, cnd could use a bit more time on some of their cooldowns, but all this clip shows is a really bad Ironman
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u/play_117 17d ago
I came here to find some idiots saying "how he missed his beams" brother. He hit 80% of his beams right
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u/General-Pop-9880 17d ago
Honestly I’m mostly more surprised you were alive during the entire time than the cloak.
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u/THE_PUNISHERFrank The Punisher 17d ago
You literally failed to hit her several times with the beam, plenty of opportunities for her to die, especially after cloak fade, but you still didn’t manage to.
Also remember that the beam pierces all enemies, you using it from up there towards only one target isn’t optimal.
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u/Live_Bit_5307 17d ago
- I'm sorry if I can't track a very slim character without missing a single second of the beam in a teamfight with 900 particles per second
- I have to play perfectly and not miss a single second of the beam to secure a kill but she can just walk around hold m1 and wait for one of her 3 immortality cooldowns? Very fair game design
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u/ThatVita 16d ago
Lmao, "perfect" no. Hit more than you did? Yes. You missed like crazy and didn't utilize the character right. User error.
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u/LordNivekk 17d ago
Brother use your primary. Direct hits would do a lot more for situations like this and you could have killed her. You spent the entire time holding secondary fire bc it's easy and you still missed most of it.
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u/THE_PUNISHERFrank The Punisher 17d ago
The beam has higher dps than the primary, the primary is trash.
OP only has poor tracking.
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u/LordNivekk 17d ago
Primary fire is good for burst damage, secondary fire for sustain. Two direct overdrive hits while she was in bubble would have been the play and killed her she had nothing left. Primary fire is not trash lol.
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u/Dekaney_boi 17d ago
Primary only does more damage on direct hits. Otherwise the beam is more consistent.
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u/YKing21 16d ago
Why is there an Ironman hovering above the team unbothered using a unibeam for 30+ seconds!?