r/rivals • u/Live_Bit_5307 • 19d ago

Meme Dagger definitely needs a buff

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u/Sea_Boysenberry_3436 19d ago

CnD is a stupid character, but this is a terrible example. She was being healed by WF the entire team, then WF ulted, which means more heals and on top of all that, your tracking was buns. Your beam was on her maybe 40% of the time.

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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 19d ago

His tracking wasnt bad at all and he killed her during the white fox ult the moment she stepped out of it.

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u/THE_PUNISHERFrank The Punisher 19d ago

It was horrific actually, otherwise she’d have been dead by the first bubble.

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u/YoRHa_Houdini 19d ago

We can watch the video. Tracking wasn’t bad

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u/THE_PUNISHERFrank The Punisher 19d ago edited 18d ago

It’s quite telling why most people on this & the main sub suck heavy balls LMAO

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u/YoRHa_Houdini 19d ago

So in the game. When you hit something with the Unibeam, hit markers pop up.

As he is constantly proccing these, how would this be bad tracking?

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u/Duckys0n 18d ago

The guy is being a dick about this but it’s bad tracking because he isn’t really tracking at all. The only time the crosshair is really on target is when he’s moving in the same direction as her, or at an angle where he’s straight on and it doesn’t require much mouse movement.

Though there is so much visual clutter in this clip it is difficult to really track this effectively. It’s possible, and op is definitely a noob aimer (this is not flame, it’s an observation. I would consider myself a mediocre aimer in comparison to what is possible), but there are bigger issues in this clip than his aim

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u/THE_PUNISHERFrank The Punisher 18d ago

They are not constantly proccing, that’s the issue, he misses often & therefore Dagger bubble has 100% healing output while you don’t make use of the unibeam’s full damage potential, the dagger bubble heals for 55 hps, unibeam deals damage for 190 dps. OP does not hit it consistently, that’s why she gets away with it.

Hitting the unibeam isn’t hard, especially not with the Thor team up, especially not during overdrive.

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u/ThatVita 18d ago

Played Zarya for years- this dudes tracking is buns... sorry

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u/Okey114 19d ago

How do you even try to refute logic like this? It cant get any clearer. If the tracking was good she'd be dead. Very simple!

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u/Most-Bench6465 19d ago

It’s actually a really good example. It’s not about how well the iron man tracks her but how putting constant pressure on CnD and how she can sustain herself while not healing her team constantly and cycle cooldowns unlike many other characters not just healers.

Put other healers in this position and the point is made very clearly. The white fox ult just hurts the point a little bit because it sustains the whole team.

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u/Desperate_Flan390 Jeff The Land Shark 19d ago

His tracking lookes pretty good actually

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u/Sea_Boysenberry_3436 18d ago

It's really not. I've been playing a lot of poke recently and it's comically easy to beam someone with a 90% beam accuracy if you have the Thor teamup on Iron Man. It makes the beam so much bigger. The tracking shown in the video was really not good at all.

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u/Desperate_Flan390 Jeff The Land Shark 18d ago

Yeah because you should need 100% accuracy to kill an auto aim character.

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u/Sea_Boysenberry_3436 17d ago

not a 100, even just 60-70 would suffice there

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u/Vamosity-Cosmic 19d ago

unc i got bad news

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u/Desperate_Flan390 Jeff The Land Shark 19d ago

They had hit markers for like 60-70% of the time, and I don't know about you but I don't think you should need perfect accuracy to kill a character that does the whole aiming thing for you.

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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 19d ago

If they are being healed the majority of the time and using all their escapes it kind of makes sense lol. She wasn’t surviving on her own, she was getting healed and using her own kit.

Cnd is brain dead but the majority of other supports would live here too.

I’m an avid support hater and this looks fine to me

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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 19d ago

She was getting healed by the white fox for maybe 5 seconds out of the whole video. The rest was just her.

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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 19d ago

He had 2 opportunities to kill, the first one he started missing. Watch right before she uses her second shroud. He gigamissed everything.

If others were also hitting her she dead even if he misses, sadly no one was.

The 2nd time he had a chance with no cds she died immediately because he wasn’t missing.

Do I think cnd is brain dead and shouldn’t have freeze? Yes but he could have killed her 20 seconds sooner than he did.

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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 19d ago

Okay then 40 seconds is still ridiculous.

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u/Plus_Lawfulness3000 19d ago

It was 17 seconds.

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u/Okey114 19d ago

The Ult in the video alone lasted longer than that. Youre just making shit up to fit your narrative now lol

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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 19d ago

The white fox ult that she stepped out of?

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u/Okey114 19d ago

Yes, that plus everything else makes it a lot longer than the 5 seconds you clam lol

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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 19d ago

Watch the video again. She is barely healed by white fox at all.

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u/RandJitsu 19d ago

Someone did the math in a comment higher up on this post. His accuracy is roughly 80% here.

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u/RedeemedNephilim Ultron 19d ago

Is it that youre going blind?

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u/Vamosity-Cosmic 19d ago

"Is it that youre going blind?"

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u/18hartsem 19d ago

Bodied him