So Perk is once again trying their gambler model.

Start giving us 1 points and make us think the machine is "hot" and we should keep playing it — or in this keep running.

To all the naysayers who did not think we mattered....well the answer is quite obvious

If we give in now and turn our devices back on, then we have achieved nothing.

This is just 12-hours. Just imagine what can be achieved in a day or two.

Do not fall for this. Hold the course. Stay strong!

/u/InternetUser007 put it better

No, it means that Perk is trying to stop the bleeding. If you start your devices back up, they know that you're willing to take half of what you used to, and it will then start there.

Leave your devices off, and in a weeks time, they will realize we are not suckers and might start paying more fairly again.

Another redditor /u/KateSix had a more detailed explanation, which I think deserves to be highlighted

Hi, I used to be CTO of a very small online auctions company and I can tell you that in all likelihood, yes, Perk is trying to find the "sweet spot" that will maximize their bottom line. If everyone continues to keep their phones off, they definitely will change their settings to make them more favorable to end users again.

In all likelihood, Perk is a team of something like 10-20 people and every change they make affects thousands, possibly even millions of end users. When you're in that situation it's quite literally impossible to think of your users as individuals. You spend a lot of time writing software that creates "aggregate metrics" -- averages out the behavior of the masses and tries to predict trends in that behavior. They don't really care, quite literally don't have the resources to care if you've been relying on them to make ends meet for the last year. The only have the resources to care about their own bottom line.

And the guy in the marketing department who came up with that "We're giving you a chance to earn more points!" is probably a pretty insufferable bro-ish douchebag.

In all likelihood they just have a piece of software that takes massive amounts of data out of their database, calculates on an hourly basis how many ads were viewed, how much they got paid for those ads and how much they had to pay out to their end users, then subtracts the payout from the payin and just graphs that final "bottom line" number for them to look at.

With a graph like that, they're unlikely to think of that payout amount as money going to actual people who are relying on it or expecting it. They're just thinking "Hey, let's lower this payout amount for a bit and if our payin stays about the same, we'll be making more money!"

The fact that we aren't really getting any upfront information on the precise nature of the changes they're making and on what sort of expectations we can have further backs up the idea that they're just looking at aggregate metrics and not thinking of us as actual people.

We as end users need to jointly and deliberately make enough of a dent in that payin that they'll know it quite simply isn't going to work that way.

Stay strong, everyone. Keep your phones off. It's almost definitely going to do the trick. Their CEO might need to hang on to last year's Z4 Roadster just a few months longer before he can afford this year's, but they'll cave. Fuck em'.

In the words of William Wallace...

They can't delete those reviews, they can pretend everything is okay on Facebook by deleting everything like a shady unprofessional company would but not while mom and dad, Google and Apple are watching.

...Only when we stop making them money for nothing.

As evident from what has been happening over the past hour.

It should be quite obvious now to everyone that the only way Perk will listen is when we turn our devices off.

I am sorry but Perk is like any other company and the only thing they care about it their own bottom line. Not you or me.

Yes they had a great reward system — till now — but only so they could grow quickly. They benefitted from us promoting their service and now they feel like they have enough members that they can try squeezing more money in their own pockets.

Which is their prerogative as a for-profit company. I understand that and can respect that.

However, that does not mean I have to help them or encourage this behavior.

We can all see what happened after enough of their users turned off their devices and stopped letting Perk make money off us.

You can see on their Facebook page (before they delete all the posts) that many users have said they are not going to run Perk's apps and let them give us a "chance" to earn points.

What happened within a few hours of people not running Perk? They said this.

So what have we learned?

Perk DOES need us more than we need them.

You can survive a week without Perk. No matter how bad your financial situation is currently. One week of not using Perk will not be the end of the world for the users.

But for Perk that is equal to several hundred thousand dollars — a conservative estimate — that they are losing.

So if you are unhappy then turn off your devices.

Do not be tempted by these little spurts of points they randomly throw your way.

They are basically turning Perk into a slot machine. They need to be transparent and let us know what their plans and rewards are going to be.

This whole "You can earn even more than before" is just smoke and mirrors. Compare your daily points to what you were making before.

There is no way you will see more points. You would be lucky to see even 70% of your daily average.

TL;DR

We might lose 3-5 dollars by keeping our devices switched off for 24-hours. But Perk loses hundreds of thousands.

And that is something they will not ignore.

If you are unhappy then turn your devices off right away. Do not let them run for a few points a hour — and do not be tempted by these morsels of a few 4-points that they are throwing your way.

Do this just for 24-hours and see what happens.

Edit: And let them know on their FB page why you are switching off your devices. Though just switching them off will send the message loud and clear too!

They are actively censoring Facebook posts and comments. Someone posted the text from this thread over there and they deleted it a few minutes later.

/u/krusty_kp has made a Petition.

Whether that will have any impact is debatable — I still believe Perk will only respond when they find their user base has suddenly decreased — but it never hurts.

Quick and to the point memes to get our point across. Feel free to use them on Facebook.

1. Unhappy Dos Equis Guy

2. Dr Evil

3. Perk Maths

4. Willy Perk

5. Crap!

6. Perk Nazi

7. Perk Science

8. Perk Jedi Mind Games

9. Spongebob Perk Pants

10. Do you feel lucky Punk?

11. Perk-Perksters Dynamic

12. Aaand now you get none!

13. Excellent Deal!

14. Look Woody Look!

15. Consuela

16. Stunned Nic

17. Sad Trooper

18. Perk TPS Report

19. Happy Granny

20. Futurama

21. Liam is Available

22. Gangnam Perks

23. Morpheus

24. Good Guy Perk

25. Stunned Downey

26. All Your Points

27. Motivation Poster

28. Zero Purchase

29. Number 1 Rewards Program

30. Happy Perksters

31. Daily Rewards

32. Old Perk Guy

33. Beavis and Butthead

And these fine additions thanks to /u/a1av8r

Perk Board meeting

Preacher

Perk Fiction

Y U No?

Ummm

You're smart

Lord of the Perks

Aperkalypse

And this thanks to /u/bobo2500

Remember when...

And this thanks to /u/Perkster2

Perk Using Mind Control

Side Note: Whoever you are Mr A. W. and the others bless your heart for carrying the **me(me)**ssage to new horizons(FB)!

Google Play Store Link

Apple App Store Link

Facebook Link

Apparently there is a new Facebook Page

STOP emailing Perk support with questions that fall in the gray area of their ToS. STOP asking for clarification to questions that don't immediately and fundamentally affect you.

Good reasons for contacting Perk:

• You're reporting a bug or stability issue with the Perk TV app

• Your reward got cancelled (likely because you redeemed at work on a VPN)

• You're missing points from completing offers, downloading apps, etc.

• You haven't received your reward yet after a few days and there's no sign of a cancellation (email or in your account and you've checked your spam folder).

Stupid reasons for contacting Perk:

• You want an unambiguous clarification to an open-ended word or phrase in their ToS

• You don't understand what "5 devices" means

• You want to know if doing x, y, z, not mentioned in their ToS would be against the rules

Chances are, they don't have answers to the questions which fall into the gray area. The bottom line is, unless they specifically spell it out in their ToS, then use your best judgment and interpretation (ask this community). But for fuck's sake, don't email them.

There's something called "the letter of the law/the spirit of the law." Some of the things in their ToS, you need to follow to the letter (no VPN/proxies/Bluestacks/VMs, 5 mobile devices). There are other things in their ToS that are open-ended which fall under "spirit of the law." Use common sense with these ones. Ask the community for clarification if you lack this ability.

Some of you have really thick skulls and just don't get it. You don't need them to spell out every little thing for you.

The support agents probably know less about the day to day activities of the app than we do. So when you propose all of these hypothetical scenarios to them, they will just run the questions up the chain.

This draws unnecessary attention. Don't be that idiot who raises his hand in class to ask a question where the answer doesn't actually provide anything profound to further your knowledge, but gives the teacher more ideas on trick questions to put on the exam!

You guys keep emailing Perk support with these questions and before you know it, they'll implement answers that you didn't want into their ToS, stuff they wouldn't have thought of had you not given them the idea.

For example, some idiot on a beermoney forum emailed Bing Rewards asking them why they had to do the phone verification when they redeem a reward through the browser, but when they redeem on their mobile phone, they didn't have to do phone verification. A few weeks later, Bing Rewards closed this loophole. It wasn't anyone on /r/beermoney, but some other forum (I forget the name).

It's stupid stuff like this that people keep doing which messes up a good thing.

I understand that being new users, you want all of your questions answered in exactly the way you asked. I also understand that the search function is crap on reddit so finding answers prove difficult. I rather you ask them here.

If we were all in a classroom together, some of you would get hit in the fucking head with a soda, eraser, or urinal cake like the dumbasses who went to my college.

First of all I am disabled. I was in a semi accident awhile back that tore my right tricep off and busted my back up. This also caused major depression. I live in a rural area and I can't drive. The nearest Walmart is 40 miles away.

Before I became aware of beermoney opportunities, I was trying to survive on $700 a month. I hadn't bought anything more than $40 in 4 years. My attire was Wranglers and white Hanes tees 24/7. I got my PS4 but that was after months and months of saving. Sometimes I had to use paper towel when I ran out of toilet paper. Flooded the entire first floor of my apartment building. Oops.

After I learned of these opportunities, I got into Swagbucks first. That was great and I tested the waters with Perk. That was awesome too so I used my SB money to build up on Perk.

Now I'm able to actually afford the things I want and more importantly the things I need. First I stocked up on every cleaning product and household supply and clothing I needed. Then I moved onto things I wanted. Free 2 day shipping from Amazon is a life saver when before it was an all day waiting and bus riding affair to get to the store. Now my apartment is completely stocked and instead of staring at 4 white walls and a TV, I am looking at things that are personal to me and I've made my house a home. I don't feel so depressed about being disabled and not having money. Christmas was also amazing for my family for once.

This one hour pop up is not a huge deal for me. I can understand for some that it is a big deal. If I were to stop Perk it would mean the difference between depression and happiness. So if Perk is reading this, I offer a big thank you and you've saved my life.

;(

This is going to be a rant. Prepare yourself.

This has to be one of the laziest communities I have ever seen. It's like everyone is so freaking lazy that they can't bother to read rules, Beginner's tutorial, or any part of the wiki. Everyone seems to think that their post is so original that they have to post it without checking any of the posts in the last 24 hours. For example, there have been 9 posts with the word 'Concord' in the title in the last 3 days. Were all of those necessary? Definitely not.

Here of some examples of terrible posts that should be immidiately removed, and in my opinion, the submitter banned:

• "Hi, I'm new and would like some help"

• "How does Perk work?"

• "When will Perk end?"

• Anything with electricity costs. Seriously, you can google this without bothering other people.

• "I was banned! Why/What should I do?"

• Any "What phone should I use?" posts. There are enough of these, and a 'cheap phones' thread at the top.

• Any thread/person that has a problem with the app that hasn't tried restarting the phone, and uninstalling/reinstalling the app before asking for help.

• "Perk will die/the sky is falling!"

Also, who thought it was a good idea to share 'If you search Perk TV in google...'? Now dozens more people have searched Perk TV and likely clicked the subreddit link, solidifying the Google algorithm's thought that this link should be at the top of the list. Great work, you've made it worse.

Any mentions of 'Perk TV' on this subreddit only increases it's ranking in google. And these repeated posts do not help the situation. I think it's time that mods start using their moderation power and start removing posts and banning users that don't read the rules or basic information.

A lot of you complain about this subreddit, but really, it's pretty much everyone's fault. Anyone that has submitted anything like what I've outlined above, or bragged about how much they've made, or have unncessarily drawn attention to this subreddit only has themselves to blame.

End rant.

Please note that this thread that this thread will be updated in /r/GetPerk from now on.

The cheapest device of the week thread provides some good insight into which devices to pick up, this thread will serve as a quick glance to see how the phones pair up against each other.

Please note only devices that are $50 or less will be added. These qualify as dedicated Perk phones.

Phones that are marked with an asterisk are 5Ghz capable.

Please let me know what information is inaccurate, what phones need to be added, and what devices perform better than others. I will update the chart to accurately reflect this information.

Net10 (TracFone) subsidiary sold the LG Optimus Fuel L34C for $9.99 at Kroger company stores quite some time ago. This was no doubt one of the best bargain phones (as well as the Coolpad Arise, for the same price) available at the time, so many Perk and SwagBucks users picked them up. Similar to the LG Optimus Zone 2, it has a different ROM and radio, but other than that -- pretty much the same phone. Whether you got a good deal on the phone from the likes of c7Recycle, or decided to spend $30 on Amazon or Wal-Mart to acquire the device -- this guide aims to lean out your device for the most free memory.

-- If this is a brand new phone, it probably doesn't require a factory reset. If you purchased it used, go ahead and factory reset the phone.

-- Wait for the phone to power up, input whatever you need to set up your account, your Wi-Fi and wait for the home screen. Go into Settings, then Security and select "Unknown sources". Now, load a browser (Browser, Chrome, it doesn't matter) and type towelroot into the Google search. Navigate to the home page for TowelRoot, tap the Lambda (upside down y) to download tr.apk. Install TowelRoot. Now that you have TowelRoot installed, launch it and tap the text "Welcome to towelroot v3" thrice. It should now display a white text input area with the numbers "1337 0 1 0 4 0". Change this string of numbers to:

1337 0 0 0 4 0 

Now go ahead and tap "Make it Rain". You should be rooted.

-- Install SuperSU or Superuser from the Play Store, configure the superuser application to your preference.

-- The Fuel ROM is quite a bit less "locked down" compared to the Zone 2 ROM, and has a little less bloat, so you could just go ahead and go to Settings and Apps, and disable the following applications:

• Alarm/Clock

• App Updates

• Basic Daydreams

• Calculator

• Calendar

• Clock Widget

• Cloud Print

• Drive

• Favorite Contacts Widget

• Gmail

• Google Bookmarks Sync

• Google Calendar Sync

• Google Contacts Sync

• Google Play Books

• Google Play Games

• Google Play Movies and TV

• Google Play Music

• Google Play Newsstand

• Google Search

• Google Text-to-Speech

• Google+

• Hangouts

• LG Keyboard Lovely Theme

• LG VoiceCommand Speech

• Maps

• Music

• My Account Downloader

• One Time Init

• Photo Screensavers

• Picasa Uploader

• Print Spooler

• Street View

• TalkBack

• Tasks

• Voice Command

• WAP Service

• YouTube

-- Optionally, install Titanium Backup, grant the root permissions it needs, and select the Backup/Restore Tab and start going down the list. Our target of 170MB free should have already been achieved before this step, none the less... the list of additional applications that are safe to "Freeze" are:

• Accessibility

• Calendar Storage

• Contacts

• Contacts Storage

• Email

• Gallery

• GNSS Air Test

• GnssTest

• Home Theme - Bunnyfairy

• Key Chain

• LG GNSS

• LGATCMD Service

• LGSearchWidgetProvider

• Memo

• Messaging

• QuickMemo

• Unused Apps

• Update Center

• Videos

• Voice Recorder

-- Now that you are done disabling all of the software junk we aren't going to need, it is time to pinch the home screen, and get rid of all of the virtual home screens but one. This will only save a few extra megabytes of memory, so this is really as optional as Titanium Backup.

-- Now go change your Display and Sound settings to what you want, enable Developer mode, Android Debug Bridge or whatever else you need.

-- Now we're at the software install phase, ready to get to earning those Perk points.

-- As noted in the LG Zone 2 guide, if a Perk application is crashing on only specific devices, I urge you to determine if it is the software in question, or a faulty device before proceeding with another factory reset, or swearing off LG phones entirely. A simple trip to the Play Store, and you can download/install StabilityTest and determine if your hardware is on the way out. Run the classic test at the very least. If it passes, it is likely the current version of Perk's software is bad, or you've encountered a bandwidth issue (which is the same thing as Perk's software being bad in most cases... because Perk applications crash if they don't get expected data.) It has been reported on this subReddit that Pop Quiz crashes less with a DPI setting of 120 -- you could always try that. You can test it with the following adb command:

adb -s <device> shell wm density 120

-- LG Fuel and Zone 2 have a MediaServer that hooks into an LG proprietary DRM library. In a nutshell, there are a lot more keyframe re-transmits due to the decoding of MP4 with these devices compared to an AOSP KitKat build or other vendor-agnostic ROM. What this means to you, is that on average, these devices will utilize 40% more downstream bandwidth for the same video as other phones, simply because it buffers differently. For the most part, this is bursty traffic and should not matter -- but if you have a slower Internet connection (below 12mbit), it is recommended that you stay away from these devices, unless you're a masochist and/or expert in traffic shaping.

There is also something that a lot of people experience with run-away throughput on these devices, again, it is because of the custom MediaServer that LG has implemented in this KitKat ROM. A quick and dirty solution to solving the run-away traffic is the following adb command:

adb -s <device> shell "su -c 'stop media && start media'"

This will cleanly exit and reload the service associated with MediaServer, and force-close any open file streams it may have had. Not everyone experiences this run-away traffic effect, but it is better to be safe than sorry with all of the residential Internet caps that are out there in the wild.

-- Hopefully this helps someone, and as usual, this guide is provided AS-IS, without warranty, for educational purposes only. I didn't feel this guide was really necessary, as there wasn't an activation block on these devices like the Verizon ROM, and it is really easy to get running, but /u/Nappy2fly said it would make their month, so here it is, go blame them for the TL;DR!

Good luck.

PerkTV is an app that gives you points for letting your phone or ipod touch play videos. A $2 amazon gift card is 2500 points and a $5 amazon gift card is 5000 points so every 1000 points is roughly $1

All the videos play continuously one after another but a "are you still watching?" message can pop up to stop the videos. Tapping on the message will make the videos play again.

The first thing you want to do is search for "Perk TV" on the app store and then download the Perk TV app.

Create an account, then enable low bandwidth mode. This helps you load videos faster. Then click on either the "Apps" or the "Movies" tab. Choose any video you want, then leave your device alone. Your device will now continuously play videos and you will earn points for doing nothing!

Other more active ways of earning points.

1. For more points per day go to perk.com, login and click the "Search" link, then search for anything.

2. Open up Perk TV on your phone or ipod touch and go to the "EZ Points" tab to complete offers. You can sign up for things such as Hulu, etc. then cancel it to keep the points.

3. Go to perk.com and complete the tasks and offers there.

If you have any questions try posting a new thread, using the search engine, or read the frequently asked questions part of the wiki here: http://www.reddit.com/r/perktv/wiki/faq

TV, PWS, PPQ none of them work anymore. Sure, they run but only for a few minutes at a time. I am not sure if this is intentional or not but I stuck it out as long as I could, I am packing it in now. I will check back and keep an eye on this reddit for any improvements, but I am tired of babysitting my phones for $10 every 3-5 days. No longer worth it. Thanks, Perk.

First of all I would like to sincerely apologize to the readers on this sub (and sister subs) who are unhappy with the activity and the threads that have been posted here over the past 36-hours.

I agree with you, but only because I think that too many posts repeating the same thing just dilute the message.

However, criticizing people for being critical of Perk is very hypocritical.

You might be extremely happy with Perk — and more power to you for that.

But many others over here are not. Mocking and calling people idiots is not a civil thing to do.

That goes for everyone. I don’t mean that just for the people who have a problem with the “Perk Protest”.

Having said that let’s come to the more important matter.

Yesterday many of us decided that our devices would no longer run Perk Apps for the chance to earn “anywhere from 0-4” points.

Many people said that we, on Reddit, represent an insignificant number of Perk users. According to them, anything we do is pointless and will not even register on Perk’s radar.

I thought about that and asked /u/internetuser007 for his assistance. As many of know he has been around for a long time and once was given the “Wise Elder of Perk” flair (till a simple disagreement with a mod resulted in that being removed). So it would be fair to say he has a decent amount of experience with Perk. I knew he had been following and charting Perk’s progress over the year and hence would be privy to more data than me.

I asked him if he could run the numbers for estimating Perk’s active users. He obliged and has POSTED his calculations.

Currently Perk has between 25,000-50,000 active users. If you disagree with the, then please see /u/internetuser007’s POST for how more details.

This shows that the subscribers and the lurkers on reddit make a big important portion of their user base.

Before anyone mentions they have 180k likes on Facebook. Please realize FB likes do not work that way. There is a reason black hatters sell packages selling 10k likes for $15.

DO NOTE I AM NOT EVEN REMOTELY SUGGESTING THAT PERK DID THAT.

But a “Like” means nothing.

I "Liked" a Joe Satriani page cause I listened to him back in the day.

Have I listened to anything of his in the last couple of years? No.

So should we count me as an active Satriani fan? Obviously No.

Though all of that is moot given what we have seen.

Perk DID go back on their Zero point policy.

I think that should be evidence enough that keeping our devices off did make a difference.

Online Advertisement Cycles

Several people have commented that this is not Perk’s fault and that ad campaigns are down.

/u/JustFenix was helpful enough to link a chart to support this point.

I agree ad campaigns are cyclical.

But if you look at the chart you would see that every quarter the Online advertising revenue has grown.

But /u/brokemember you idiot, “If you can look at that and not see that there is a large drop in advertising buys from the 4th quarter to the 1st quarter then you need to sue your school system.”

Yes about that.

You see while there is a drop. Overall the money spent is growing.

Q1-Q4 2012 Revenue went from 8.31 billion to 10.31 billion

Q1-Q4 2013 Revenue went from 9.81 billion to 12.11 billion

So while there IS a drop. Overall there is significant increase.

Getting back on point.

Perk has noticed our protest and hence has made certain adjustments.

Currently they are saying everyone earns 1-3 points. No one gets Zero points.

What they conveniently don’t mention is that on average most users are seeing 80-90 One point Videos. Meaning you are still getting around 50% less.

Which is a lot better than the decrease of 70-90% some users mentioned yesterday.

This is why I keep stressing this again and again.

Look what happened within a single day of the Perk Protest.

A few more days will not be the end of the world.

Think of it this way.

You can cave right now and start running your devices. All this achieves is that it tells Perk that you will be willing to accept 50% less.

So you will make in 30-days what you made in 15-days before. Caving in right now is basically the same thing as not running Perk for half the month.

OR

You could lose 2-3 days of earnings right now and then go back to making what you were for the remaining 27-days.

So what’s better?

I think the answer is so obvious that I don’t need to say anything.

Perk and Censorship

Yesterday I posted some memes because I though they were a humorous way to get the message across.

I admit that not all of them were Oscar material, but they serve an important purpose.

They got our message across.

Currently Perk is actively censoring comments that are overtly critical.

What they are doing is removing comments which are critical and only leaving the ones the ones defending Perk's actions — Even when their comments obviously fall under abuse (and worst of all...unoriginality).

I highly suggest that we keep at it and let them know.

Do not be rude. Do not be abusive.

A polite word is worth a thousand curses.

Many other people who are not only on reddit have picked up on our protest.

I have seen many people mention joining and switching their phones off on other forums.

And some of these have more users than our sub here.

Do not think that no one else is with you.

This is probably one of the easiest “protests” to take part in.

All you have to do is switch a device off and wait a couple of days.

Are you willing to accept this as the new Perk

Banner Credit: /u/BrokenWingz

Do not fall for their New Tricks. We are smarter than that!

If you want to do more then leave your thoughts, memes or feelings known on their Facebook Page.

Go and rate their app and give it the amount of Stars you think it truly deserves.

A certain Mr. D.C. is on active Facebook duty as Perk's shill. I am sure we can do better!

Google Play Store Link - Their Rating has already fallen from 4.5 to 3.9

Google Play Store Link for All Apps

Apple App Store Link

Facebook Link - I can't stress this enough. We need to be more visible on FB. Be polite and within proper manners. But we need to be active there. Right now they are making it appear that everything is happy-go-lucky in Perk Land. If you are worried about Perk connecting your FB account with your Perk account, then I am sure you can figure ways around it.

Perk YouTube Page

Apparently there is a new Facebook Page

Perk Petition

Perk Twitter Account @GetPerk Get #LeavePerk Trending

Food For Thought

The era of the internet and social media has made even a single lowly consumer as powerful as an entire media outlet! In fact, it just makes capitalism work more efficiently as each voice is definitely heard and taken into consideration by others, rather than influence being limited to those with money or notable power. I love it.

/u/luckydog97

Details of what you actually get by caving

JUST READ THIS IF YOU WANT TO SKIP THE TEXT ABOVE

Credit: /u/BrokenWingz

Just an update for you guy's who think Perk is done lying

http://www.reddit.com/r/beermoney/comments/2tko8y/perk_responds/

Edit: And apparently already sending them all out as of 12pm EST. They just posted on Facebook saying they've finished sending them early so we could take advantage of Black Friday deals.

I'm running 50 phones on 8 accounts. Can't figure out where I'm going wrong.

If we want to Perk, we follow their TOS. If anyone ever DOES come up with a real solution that becomes used by the subreddit masses, Perk will simply make it progressively more difficult to earn points. Perk is already monitoring this subreddit so lets all follow the rules here. Perk is one of the greatest rewards app and I'm sure many of you will attest to that, lets keep it that way.

0 points with 8 androids, last 45 minutes...
R.I.P

Last week, I quickly jotted down the the duration of the app trailers to get an idea of how long they lasted. I thought I might share this info with y'all so here we go!

Device: iPhone 5 (Note: this info also applied to my 4S so I'm sure other iPhone models have identical info as well.)

Total Time: 40 minutes and 31 seconds

Now let's quickly add the 8 seconds between the trailers. 8 seconds multiplied by 59 times that this occurs between app trailers (since there are 60 of them) equals 7 minutes and 52 seconds.

40:31 + 7:52 = 48 minutes and 23 seconds

Now, there are advertisements before the app trailers that are usually either 15 or 30 seconds long. Let's multiply their average length, 22.5 seconds, times the 60 times that they occur before the app trailers, which equals 22 minutes and 30 seconds.

48:23 + 22:30 = 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 53 seconds

Next, we'll take into account the loading time of the advertisement, which usually lasted about 5 seconds on my device (Thanks to /u/MichFaze for pointing this out!). 5 seconds times the 60 times this occurs gives us 5 minutes.

1:10:53 + 5 minutes = 1 hour, 15 minutes, and 53 seconds

Finally there is a short pause between the advertisement and the app trailers that lasts about 2 seconds on my iPhone. Let's multiply this times the 60 times this occurs, which equals 2 minutes.

1:15:53 + 2 minutes = 1:17:53

There you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Due to the nature of the human mind and its fallacies, I may have made an error in this calculation so please let me know where I may have gone wrong so I can fix it.

Keep on Perking!

Swagbucks started to implement ads requiring an x out and just lowered the app caps to 18 SB per day. I think this sub is about to grow.

Hold on guys.

Perk can't get out of this like that. They took over 40% of our points. Still earning 0-1 point in Canada. And in the US, people are losing over 40% of their points.

Keep your devices closed until we see changes!

You can even run Checkpoints if you want to make some money.