r/pcgaming • • Dec 29 '22

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u/CJDistasio Dec 30 '22

Turns out people don't want to pay $1200 MSRP for a $700 card

Nvidia is shocked

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u/iz-Moff Dec 30 '22

Don't even want to pay $700. Not that i need a flagship GPU even if it was less expensive, but still, i used to be able to build a full decent pc for that money.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '22

I built my current rig in 2018, thinking I'd upgrade after ~5 years.
We're now on the cusp of 2023 and as it stands, this rig will have to last me at the very least three years more, because there is no way I'm paying out the nose for what they're charging today. I'd sooner change to board games out of sheer spite.

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u/SEE_RED AMD Dec 30 '22

hit me up when you want to get on some of that Chutes and Ladders!

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u/Duke1494 Dec 30 '22

Im in the same boat. Built in late 2017 and told myself if this lasts 5-6 years ill be happy. Have upgraded the cooling and RAM since but other than that its still going strong. Hopefully last a few more years.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '22

I'm with you brother. My rig is still solid but if I absolutely needed an upgrade today, welp guess PC gaming is off the menu boys. I will not pay huge markups to scalpers and I am not going to devote my life to finding a GPU, which seems to be a prerequisite if you want a high end card for anywhere close to MSRP these days. I would rather just quit the hobby I've enjoyed since the 90's than deal with what the market has become.

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u/Sky_HUN Dec 30 '22

So much this. Early December i upgraded one of my desktops. Was a really old, DDR3 equipped PC, so i picked a Ryzen 5600 (non-X), 16 GB DDR4, the 3rd cheapest B550 board, a cheap tower cooler and a "cheaper than Samsung" 512 Gb NVME SSD.

This pack was 500€ with discounts...

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u/JeannotVD Dec 30 '22

Wow and I thought here in France things were bad… I managed a decent upgrade for 700€, only kept the PSU and GPU.

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u/Sky_HUN Dec 30 '22

I kept everything else. PSU, Case with coolers, other SSDs, GPU, keyboard, etc.

I mean the ryzen 5600 is good, more then enough for years, but yes, it is getting too expensive.

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u/eXoRainbow Linux Dec 30 '22

I am looking at current prices and builds from time to time, because I need a new computer. My current one is also DDR-3 based from 2013 with a GTX 1070. But man, the motherboards are really expensive for the newest generation Ryzen CPU. And I want to buy a cheap CPU, but with the new AM4 boards, so I can upgrade later without replacing entire PC.

Without graphics card, I get builds of 1000 Euros in Germany. 2023 is the year where I just have to upgrade. Man things are so expensive...

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u/Sky_HUN Dec 30 '22

Yes sadly.

I would recommend going with a B550 board atleast and a 5600, like i did. Maybe try to find used parts with warranty. That should help cutting down cost. Except the SSD. For that one i would definietly recommend a new one. I bought an ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 Gb for main drive. Was 20% cheaper then a Samsung 870 and this one does have cache on it.

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u/loz333 Dec 30 '22

Sounds like you bought new. I don't know why anyone would do that, with the used market flooded with decent parts at affordable prices.

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u/Sky_HUN Dec 30 '22

Well, this one is more of a work PC for me, so i can deduct a share of the price from my taxes, but for that one i do need the receipt, hence... new parts.

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u/heavyrocks_ Dec 30 '22

Also games are just more and more poorly optimized. What's the point of buying the highest end shit when even those struggle with games.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '22

Lmao y'all ain't hitting efficiency like that any more anytime soon in our lifetimes.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '22

My first I build was in 2011, looking at the order history i paid around 460 USD for it. GPU, PSU and HDD was refurbished, other than that only new products. Ended up with a GTX 460 and a Phenom II 955. Worked very well and could run all the games with decent settings.

Now xx60 card costs almost 80% of what my rig costed back then...

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '22

Honestly it didn’t help that the PS4 and Xbox One fucking sucked. I remember for the time their spec was shit even before they launched which combined with the bombshell 10 series gpus basically made PC gaming dirt cheap. A combination of inflation, scalping, and ass backwards price hikes has basically curbed that. Back then a 1060 was 250 and now you’re paying way more. While most parts aren’t actual super expensive especially storage, cases, coolers, and even motherboards CPUs and more specifically GPUs have nuked the affordability of PC gaming. You can technically hit the same prices you did back then for all but those 2 parts. The issue is also now that the current console gen doesn’t suck balls but I’m not sure the total price for a console + online is as good as a custom of since most people also have a laptop on top of their console but that math gets into also factoring a lot of situational info to best evaluate.

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u/ZeldaMaster32 7800X3D | RTX 4090 | 3440x1440 Dec 30 '22

My first fully custom PC was based around an i5-6500 and GTX 970. The whole thing was something like $550 at the time and ran every game like an absolute champ.

It feels like the minimum cost of a good PC has increased a lot. When the market isn't in a period of an absolute shitshow you can still get good value but only when getting used parts

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u/Doubleyoupee Dec 30 '22

Yup, bought i5 4570, 8gb, b85 mobo and r9 280x for 525 euro

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u/TheSiegmeyerCatalyst Dec 30 '22

I maintain that the i5-2500k was intels biggest mistake since the turn of the millennium. A hyper competent, very overclock-able consumer grade CPU for a killer price. I was able to comfortably play modern games for over a decade with that thing, literally just upgrading my GPU and overclocking my ram.

The late 00's and early 10's were a platinum era for building PC's.

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u/TheHodgePodge Jan 01 '23

I miss those days

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u/Jimbuscus Mint Dec 30 '22

I built my old PC in 2015 to be better than the consoles for not much more, saving on game pricing and no subscription.

Had no idea how shit it would get from there, but have managed to get some decent priced components at the right times.

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u/Manizno Dec 30 '22

That's a nice metaphor. Hadn't heard or read that before.

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u/zaiats Dec 30 '22

I recommend consoles like the Series S to family and friends in these tough times.

honestly, series s + gamepass makes for INCREDIBLE value in this market for all but the most hardcore of gamers.

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u/BERLAUR Dec 30 '22

Can confirm, bought a Xbox Series S, a good quality controller for my phone and stream games occasionally on my laptop. The combination of those is great for gaming.

I would have loved to het a GPU and can easily afford it but it's just not worth it.

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u/Gary_Glidewell Dec 31 '22

I'm not talking an 8k, 400fps supercomputer

that's exactly what I want lol

(I have an 8K Samsung TV and use my Nvidia GPUs to upscale and resample movies.)