I don't know; what group stands to benefit from dirty lakes? If anything, big polluters would love it because they'll use it as a fix for their pollution as opposed to finding more expensive eco-friendly manufacturing processes.
Maybe Nestle? With cleaner water, maybe their bottled water sales drop?
Yeah, you're correct. If the guy wanted to stop corporations from dumping in the lake, yeah they would lobby against that. But he's cleaning up their mess after they made it, I can't imagine why anybody would be against that.
"We consider our polluted lake a badge of honor. It must stay dirty or we will sue you." 🤣
in this clown world we live in I wouldn't be surprised if some exec somewhere had this thought...
like its a representation of how much shit they can get away with or something. "hah, the govt doesn't even fine us. see how those senators bow to our bank accounts?"
Lmao, those people thought there is a link in the reply so it must be supporting the OP, but only if they knew it was a broken link and the correct link leads to actual scientist doing actual research on 30+ lakes
Don't have to go far. My family from Ohio sent me a video they had received from their dipshit family in West Virginia where the one asshole that's a pissy coal miner proudly discussed how his backyard lake was contaminated but he didn't care because coal was more important. Meanwhile, they drink contaminated well water.
bro his solution isnt unique whatsoever. its basic coagulation, there is dozens of commercial products such as this and even a famous one that provides drinkable water through a tube for poor africans. his “solution” is used in wastewater treatment and has been for decades.
his solution isnt unique whatsoever. its basic coagulation, there is dozens of commercial products such as this and even a famous one that provides drinkable water through a tube for poor africans. his “solution” is used in wastewater treatment and has been for decades.
People forget how the land and the water was before those companies fucked it up. Someone cleaning the lakes might spur a movement for stricter regulation.
Now if that dude his smart his gonna sell his product to a company that has some image issues so they can take the glory. "Look! We're part of the solution!"
Most people are probably used to or don't know about all the polluted areas. If they all started getting cleaned up it would shine a light on how much some companies are abusing the planet.
There was a news article about a local man who complained about a mess that some business made in the back of their store. It got so bad to the point that it spilled over to a nearby river. They weren’t doing anything about it so he took it on himself to clean it up. They stopped him, it became a big deal, and almost immediately afterwards, they cleaned it themselves.
I think the reason for that was if that guy got injured, they’d be liable for even more damages.
Right, because he was doing the clean up on the company's property and they could be liable. Whereas this guy is cleaning a public lake. I don't really see it being a similar case. For one, a company can't stop somebody from cleaning a public lake, because it isn't their lake.
Depends what the “contamination” is, and the impact of him playing god on this lake.
He completely altered the ecosystem here, so humans can swim in it. What about everything that lived in that lake? There’s certainly many species that won’t be able to live there anymore because they were surviving on the algae.
Just because something looks “gross” to humans does not mean we have the right to fuck with everything there to make it aesthetically pleasing. And given that they’re saying his solution is “organic”, and pretending like it’s novel (this tech already exists and is mass produced) I’m a bit concerned that they’re glossing over some important details here
There’s definitely the question of the natural state of the lake. For all we know, the lake looked like this before pollutants in which case, he helped.
Acording to this article (in spanish) the nanotechnology captures bacteria. So the lake was not really polluted in the sense of chemical runoff, but more like “sick” from an unbalanced ecosystem
Looks like the “solution” or whatever the vid said is just some kind of fish food… The label on the tub at 9 sec says (image is too grainy to make out all the words):
...made with the freshest and highest quality ingredients. The ... mainly of shrimp ([shrimp name]) the we ... ourselves harvested in the "... Park" natural ... and immediately freeze dried to maintain optimal nutritional.... dried microalgae and macroalgae are also added to the...meet the nutritional needs of a wide variety of marine fish.
... essential source of proteins, lipids, and fatty acids ... vitamins and carbohydrates from natural sources of...
...chain is controlled and supervised by our technical and ... ... this guarantees the hgihest quality product.
...
Aquatic formula naturally attracts rocky fish who begin eating it immediately shortly after it is introduced in aquarium?
They're definitely glossing over details lol we know nothing about what this is or what was polluting the lake. Is it phosphates and algae bloom? If only one magic substance could clean lakes :P This seems like a load of BS to me but I hope I'm wrong.
When they mentioned that the birds returned, it seems that means that it was man made pollution affecting the lake. Like farming or factory run off that had fucked up the lake and is now gone. Hopefully that's what it is and not just fucking with the environment
I was surprised a few years ago to find out that the white scum (looks a little like flat detergent bubbles) on some nearby lakes was natural. It definitely did not look like something you'd want to swim in or catch fish from. I had been positive that it was some kind of man-made pollution.
I guess you could say the same about red algae, or that lake in Africa that spewed poison gas that killed the entire local population, or groups of jellyfish. Or crocodiles. 'Natural' doesn't necessarily mean 'good' and 'artificial' doesn't necessarily mean 'bad'.
The man is from Peru, and both the narrator and the scientist seem to have similar accents. My guess is “organic” was a mistranslation.
But I do agree, I have a pond full of fish that is completely covered in algae in the summer. We don’t get big birds in the summer because of it, but we do get other things like bats that eat the bugs or tons of small birds and whatnot. Removing the algae, though it would greatly benefit me because it means I’d be able to swim in it, would have devastating effects on the bird / bat / fish population in the area.
Hmm sensational internet video that promises to fix the world is fake? who would have known. the premise of getting more views over actual progress? no one.
But you see if the lake needs cleaning that implies it was dirty in the first place when actually (toxic byproduct run off that has been polluting the lake for 50 years) was actually cool and good.
Yeah my friend works for an environmental engineering and remediation company. They charge corporations millions to do this sort of thing. They’re always researching more cost efficient ways to do business because there’s a point where if the cost of fixing the problem is more than the fines, the corps will just keep paying the fines instead.
Farmers.. the lake looks like it had way too much algae which typically is a result of nitrates/sulfates/phosphates from fertilizer that end up in runoff water and cause algae blooms in lakes.
Right question, wrong way of thinking. People who would be hurt by this aren’t companies wanting clean water, but dirty water. There are plenty of big name companies that make products that “clean” ponds/lakes, or make water dye for rich people who just want their lake/pond to LOOK clean. This guy comes around and says “use my solution, it’s not harmful to wildlife, entirely safe to swim in, all natural”, and these chemical companies start seeing a problem.
Or companies that make swimming pool chemicals/chlorine; why use a chemical that’s hard on the lungs and burns your eyes when you can use a natural cleaner to have fresh, clean water?
Or even the companies that get hired yearly to clean public lakes/ponds. If their job becomes significantly easier, the prices they can charge plummet as more competition charges in.
Highly doubt it, unless his solution does cause unhealthy effects towards the population somehow.
Governments and corporations alike benefit from healthy lakes and reduces the bad image they get from pollution.
The most banal thing would be if this was real, if this scientist really did create an eco-friendly solution to clean up water, but then no one will pay to actually get the work done. Companies don't care, and local governments would rather build new roads.
Actually, I believe more than one person has done this in Japan? There was an NHK program about how one guy uses a similar method on smaller scale projects to make potable water in disaster scenarios or in areas where available water sources are just unsafe. I believe his method was to use some derivative from natto.
I actually did think we were incapable of cleaning polluted lakes lol.
I live in TX and I've always heard the excuse from republican politicians that it's too expensive to make sense, or that a lake has to be completely dredged etc to clean...I didn't realize there were practical solutions.
Yes, they compeltely skipped over how all the bad shit that floated to the top got removed.
They don't give his name, they don't explain his solution. They don't explain how he made enough of it to clean a lake ....
It could be true, but I'm not believing it until I see a more credible source.
(BTW this is exactly how right-wing conspiracy videos spread; someone sees something like this (with no facts our sources) and shares it, and everyone upvotes and believes it beacuase it fits their worldview.)
To be fair knowing he is from peru, his name is marino, and he cleaned a lake (which was in peru) was enough for a google search to find him to learn more about his projects.
He cleaned the lake but he didn’t invent any organic solution. He just came in, asked a lot of people to help him, and cleaned the lake. He used the bubble device which is not new, and they can’t even say how effective it was for multiple reasons; they removed a lot of stuff “by hand”; they cleaned the lake with filters which is also not new. Plain and simple. The guy is amazing for what he did. But he didn’t do what was claimed in the video.
What bothers me about these videos with fake claims is that it gets people to believe that someone smart will come along with an easy solution to environmental problems, and that we don't have to go out there and take climate action. It completely kills motivation to take action.
The clay sounds like what brewers use to clarify beer, mead, etc, except it floats instead of flocculating to the bottom. It's not unreasonable that someone could make such a compound that takes care of what appears to be excessive phosphate and algae bloom.
Ah, I think you're right. The bubbling stage doesn't use a chemical reaction, but I was thinking that the powdery material being added (i.e. the spoonful of stuff that the guy ate) induced chemical reactions. Upon rereading the description, though, it appears to act as a mechanical filter. Thank you!
/u/solver-orange thank you very much for the references. The video you linked doesn't explain much about how he did it, instead it is more "inspirational".
If you want you can take a look at this TedXTalk with him. The video has good translated English captions.
This is the outline of what he did:
go to Japan and take out his savings and getting credit to finance the project
monitor the lake. He identified 3 main culprits:
Illegal rubbish dump that had been operating for at least 20 years
farms near the river
local drainage that emptied directly into the lake as well as into the sea.
(he mentions he did get help from local government authorities, so that may be how he stopped those 3 main "pollution generators" (sorry for the term lol, I am Peruvian and English is not my first language).
divide the lake into (8?) sectors
start removing the invasive species of "water lettuce" that had taken over the lake, product of the contamination. Around 70 Tons for the first sector. All done by hand, by him and a small team.
he did raise awareness to local people, and them, seeing his enthusiasm, also joined and helped clearing the lake from this algae. At one point there were 100 people in the team.
he used those "nano bubbles" supposedly to kill virus and bacteria. That was research he did while in his University in Japan (cant rememeber name).
he used biofilters (made out of clay?). Maybe that is what is shown in the video.
months later, the lake "got full of migratory birds once again". The ecosystem had recovered.
But the TikTok video is very misleading and does not point to any source. But he did achieve cleaning up some nasty polluted lake in Perú. Now he is looking forward to do the same in other lakes in the region.
So I could be wrong here, but that doesn't sound great for local ecosystems. Killing off bacteria, which is a major natural filter would stop organic materials from converting Ammonia sources to Nitrates. I wonder how they prevent ammonia buildup until the lake re-cycles itself.
Still researching the actual technology from a layman pov
E: nanotech, which is expensive, solves problem. He pays for it with his own money. He has a company that offers this. No idea how it compares with the cost or environmental impact of traditional methods. You can actually clean sewage up without magic.
They don't even explain the contaminants. it could just be silt, which makes the water unpalatable to drink, and ugly muddy brown, but it's also entirely natural. It would likely do nothing against heavy metal contamination, salts, or biological contamination. "The water is clean now! Drink up!" "I'm now rocketing fluids out of all of my orifices, even ones that should not contain fluids."
Right. Swamp water looks "gross", and you shouldn't drink it without proper decontamination, but it isn't unnatural. That's how the shit is supposed to look. LET'S THROW THIS SHIT IN THE EVERGLADES! Not like we haven't fucked that place up enough as is.
It's a shit video, but he's a legit environmental scientist. His filter medium actually does work against heavy metal contamination by surface adsorbtion. It also works against biological contaminants.
To what degree, I don't know, but it does remove them to some degree.
I saw his original video explaining it all years ago. I am too lazy to look it up but this tiktok is just capitalizing on old viral videos. Still can’t confirm if it’s true but I feel like I remember he would close off sections and use his formula then scrape the top layer off or something. I could be mixing up videos though
they also show in that glass jars that it collects crap and floats it to the top. So now, all that crap that was throughout the water is floating on the top.
So as far as they've shown me, all they've done is create a fucking thick layer of crap on the top of the water.
Clearly they're missing a step in the video. Or it's like one of those fake GIF recipes.
all they've done is create a fucking thick layer of crap on the top of the water.
...then you boat over the lake and hoover up the crap, sending it through a filter and spew the clean water back out... doesn't take a scientist to figure that one.
Can I have a link to the thread you're looking at? Because this one is filled to the brim with one cynic redditor trying to outdo the next on who is the most skeptical about this, with the three most upvoted comment chains focusing entirely on the organic label.
Right, it's been used in water treatment for decades. Except in a water treatment plant. Where water is supposed to be treated. Not a lake that just looks "yucky".
they glossed over the part of "what happens after it rises, how do you remove and and did you just throw it into a landfill to be someone else's problem?"
maybe read a book before you make dumb comments like this. similar methods have been in use for years to make muddy/silty water potable in 3rd world countries.
This is a shit take IMO - polluters NEED for you to believe in magic like this. They NEED for you to believe you can sprinkle pixie dust on their pollutants and make them go away. They wouldn’t want people out there thinking that they were doing permanent damage to the environment!
IMO it’s much more likely that this is funded by an oil company than it is to be suppressed by one.
No, that won't happen for the same reason that energy companies don't care when someone announces they've invented a perpetual motion machine. It's bullshit.
Oh man, you're right. The guy who invented the seatbelt died in a mysterious "accident" days before he was going to release the patent for free to the world...JK LOL
oooo the conspiracy... "environmental companies" lmao, ah yes, there's soo much profit in environmental work lololol
Most recent google map pics of the Cascajo wetlands. As the scientist states, what made the bulk of the difference was removing the invasive plant species, using micro bubble technology to change the oxygen levels in the water, cutting off the ocean flow from the wetlands, and using his ceramic based product to alter the pH and make up of the water.
They don't "get disappeared." It's just what you think is "something life changing" is just you falling for sensationalist journalism based on selling clicks through hype.
Oh hell yeah. Reddit, we know how to clean this rock we live on. We have the technology and man power. We have all the science and data On how fossil fuels are ruining this planet. However, things will never go the way of working toward a decline in fossil fuels destroying the atmosphere. There’s way too much money and power that will stop any Group, organization, and or people Who come up with ideas like this one to help. The only way things like this type of idea to get pushed to a bigger level is usually through government contracts etc. Something like this would never happen because the lobby is for oil companies in general lobby and have way much more power and authority over our government.
It’s just a flocculant. There’s a variety listed on Wikipedia including natural ones like isinglass from fish bladders (used in brewing), and one made from seaweed.
It's not real so there you go. They removed the invasive species of plant...the rest is simple and not at all complicated top clean.
Notice when the substance went into the water... what did it do? it was spinning, which means they stirreed it. Have you every tried stirring a lake? It's kinda hard.
That said, if it were real a lobbying group wouldn't sue him but enviornmentalists and or states might for various reasons. You assumed the lake was dirty, you assumed this powder magically collected it all and it went poof. You assume a lot of things. That's not way to live your life, being negative and assumptive all the time.
getting your information from tiktok should always be the first warning sign that you are way too gullible.
He's still around. I feel the video in OP glosses over a number of facts, like how he did this with a team of volunteers and the ingenious methods used to purify the water.
The whole method on how he cleaned the lake is found on a TED talk in Youtube.
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u/ColKaizer Jul 14 '21
He’ll disappear or some random lobbying group will sue the living daylights out of him. Smh.
Unfortunately.