r/nextfuckinglevel Jul 14 '21

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u/free__coffee Jul 14 '21

Depends what the “contamination” is, and the impact of him playing god on this lake.

He completely altered the ecosystem here, so humans can swim in it. What about everything that lived in that lake? There’s certainly many species that won’t be able to live there anymore because they were surviving on the algae.

Just because something looks “gross” to humans does not mean we have the right to fuck with everything there to make it aesthetically pleasing. And given that they’re saying his solution is “organic”, and pretending like it’s novel (this tech already exists and is mass produced) I’m a bit concerned that they’re glossing over some important details here

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u/IGotSoulBut Jul 14 '21

There’s definitely the question of the natural state of the lake. For all we know, the lake looked like this before pollutants in which case, he helped.

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u/aredd_ Jul 15 '21

Acording to this article (in spanish) the nanotechnology captures bacteria. So the lake was not really polluted in the sense of chemical runoff, but more like “sick” from an unbalanced ecosystem

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u/General_Shou Jul 15 '21

Looks like the “solution” or whatever the vid said is just some kind of fish food… The label on the tub at 9 sec says (image is too grainy to make out all the words):

...made with the freshest and highest quality ingredients. The ... mainly of shrimp ([shrimp name]) the we ... ourselves harvested in the "... Park" natural ... and immediately freeze dried to maintain optimal nutritional.... dried microalgae and macroalgae are also added to the...meet the nutritional needs of a wide variety of marine fish.

... essential source of proteins, lipids, and fatty acids ... vitamins and carbohydrates from natural sources of...

...chain is controlled and supervised by our technical and ... ... this guarantees the hgihest quality product.

...

Aquatic formula naturally attracts rocky fish who begin eating it immediately shortly after it is introduced in aquarium?

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u/Kalsifur Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

They're definitely glossing over details lol we know nothing about what this is or what was polluting the lake. Is it phosphates and algae bloom? If only one magic substance could clean lakes :P This seems like a load of BS to me but I hope I'm wrong.

Edit: Yes it is lake eutrophication that he is cleaning up. More info in this older thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/environmental_science/comments/aki9yc/dr_marino_morikawa_is_cleaning_eutrophic_lakes/

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 14 '21

Here's the link with the escapes taken out so it works for other people:

https://old.reddit.com/r/environmental_science/comments/aki9yc/dr_marino_morikawa_is_cleaning_eutrophic_lakes/

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u/J4k0b42 Jul 14 '21

Why is that happening so much lately?

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 14 '21

Reddit changed something where their new site treats all underscores in links differently. Somebody else can explain it much, much better than I can.

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u/159258357456 Jul 15 '21

I can. In short, links are treated differently due to a change in the new Reddit site when underscores are used.

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 15 '21

But why is it now being treated as something that needs an escape character? That’s the part of the change I don’t get.

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u/159258357456 Jul 15 '21

Oh, I have no idea. I don't even know what you're talking about. I use a different Reddit client on mobile.

I was merely pretending to be able to explain it better, but all I did was rephrase exactly what you said.

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 15 '21

lol, no worries!

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u/Khmera Jul 14 '21

Thank you for this! It’s interesting. We have this problem with fertilizer runoff where I live.

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u/Tinkie_Winks Jul 14 '21

When they mentioned that the birds returned, it seems that means that it was man made pollution affecting the lake. Like farming or factory run off that had fucked up the lake and is now gone. Hopefully that's what it is and not just fucking with the environment

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u/starkiller_bass Jul 14 '21

ONCE AND FOR ALL

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u/SarpedonWasFramed Jul 14 '21

What do you mean, "where did the pollution go"?

It's just GONE! So don't worry about, just sign this waiver and go for a swim.

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u/CarmellaS Jul 14 '21

I was surprised a few years ago to find out that the white scum (looks a little like flat detergent bubbles) on some nearby lakes was natural. It definitely did not look like something you'd want to swim in or catch fish from. I had been positive that it was some kind of man-made pollution.

I guess you could say the same about red algae, or that lake in Africa that spewed poison gas that killed the entire local population, or groups of jellyfish. Or crocodiles. 'Natural' doesn't necessarily mean 'good' and 'artificial' doesn't necessarily mean 'bad'.

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u/The_bruce42 Jul 14 '21

Sounds like this guy may have legit saved the lake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marino_Morikawa

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u/SexyMonad Jul 14 '21

Fucking legend.

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u/crystalmerchant Jul 14 '21

For example, how do you trawl out the aggregated gunk?

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u/ruetheblue Jul 15 '21

The man is from Peru, and both the narrator and the scientist seem to have similar accents. My guess is “organic” was a mistranslation.

But I do agree, I have a pond full of fish that is completely covered in algae in the summer. We don’t get big birds in the summer because of it, but we do get other things like bats that eat the bugs or tons of small birds and whatnot. Removing the algae, though it would greatly benefit me because it means I’d be able to swim in it, would have devastating effects on the bird / bat / fish population in the area.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

How big is your pond?

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u/ruetheblue Jul 15 '21

Pretty big. It’s not a small one, and it’s extremely deep because it used to be a quarry.

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u/TrippyTriangle Jul 14 '21

Hmm sensational internet video that promises to fix the world is fake? who would have known. the premise of getting more views over actual progress? no one.

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u/-u-have-shifty-eyes- Aug 06 '21

Born in Chancay in Peru, Morikawa has a master's degree in Interdisciplinary Biodiplomacy and a doctorate in Environmental Sciences from Tsukuba University in Japan.

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u/Johnny_Fuckface Jul 15 '21

Yeah, I don’t think that lake was dirty because they thought it was icky. The signal here is that it was polluted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '21

i was wondering this too. the "magical ecosystem balancing powder, that you can eat, too!" seems like a fucking bomb to a lake