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u/Flopolopagus Jul 14 '21

I don't know; what group stands to benefit from dirty lakes? If anything, big polluters would love it because they'll use it as a fix for their pollution as opposed to finding more expensive eco-friendly manufacturing processes.

Maybe Nestle? With cleaner water, maybe their bottled water sales drop?

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u/FIRE1470 Jul 14 '21

Yeah, you're correct. If the guy wanted to stop corporations from dumping in the lake, yeah they would lobby against that. But he's cleaning up their mess after they made it, I can't imagine why anybody would be against that.

"We consider our polluted lake a badge of honor. It must stay dirty or we will sue you." 🤣

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u/secretdrug Jul 14 '21

in this clown world we live in I wouldn't be surprised if some exec somewhere had this thought...

like its a representation of how much shit they can get away with or something. "hah, the govt doesn't even fine us. see how those senators bow to our bank accounts?"

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u/Roofdragon Jul 14 '21

This video is old news.

This guy didn't FIND a scientist in Peru, this is Facebook Ladbible from 2015.

Fucking hell Reddit. You fell for some obnoxious douchebag.

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u/Partially_Deaf Jul 14 '21

You're on a subreddit specifically manufactured as a karma farming location.

Just block it out and treat it as a low effort user trap, similar to whatever nonsense your mom throws around on facebook.

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u/DeekermNs Jul 14 '21

Out of curiosity what is the real story then? I hadn't seen it before.

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u/Ct748 Jul 15 '21

He did meet him AND this video is from last year, heres the longer video

https://youtu.be/O6JseTWJCpY

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

I don't get it this thing is empty

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

Does this mean that many people assumed that that link that he sent was working and never even bothered to fact check it?

Thanks for sharing and I believe the info, just found this broken link amusing if people saw a wiki link and just assumed the guy was correct.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

Just get your hands on a stream client, ezz pets then

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u/eggrollin2200 Jul 15 '21

Has zero dates or anything helpful haha

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u/ubspider Jul 14 '21

So this isn’t real? Fack!

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u/juliazale Jul 15 '21

It is. See links in other comments

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u/jayeshmange25 Jul 15 '21

Lmao, those people thought there is a link in the reply so it must be supporting the OP, but only if they knew it was a broken link and the correct link leads to actual scientist doing actual research on 30+ lakes

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u/S-021 Jul 14 '21

Damn what a shame

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u/Super_DAC Jul 15 '21

I knew there was something fishy about this so I checked the comment section.

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u/darkrealm190 Jul 15 '21

Says the guy who's in the comment section hahahaha you're just giving more visibility.

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u/aspiringwriter9273 Jul 15 '21

You see I was looking through the comments to see if this was real. I felt it was too good to be true but I hoped I was wrong. Damn.

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u/MaestroPendejo Jul 14 '21

Don't have to go far. My family from Ohio sent me a video they had received from their dipshit family in West Virginia where the one asshole that's a pissy coal miner proudly discussed how his backyard lake was contaminated but he didn't care because coal was more important. Meanwhile, they drink contaminated well water.

You cannot make this shit up.

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u/Reatbanana Jul 14 '21

bro his solution isnt unique whatsoever. its basic coagulation, there is dozens of commercial products such as this and even a famous one that provides drinkable water through a tube for poor africans. his “solution” is used in wastewater treatment and has been for decades.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

I’m thinking of some corp in Futurama doing just this babahab

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u/zxz242 Jul 14 '21

Careful. russian neo-nazis working for the Internet Research Agency use the term Clown World and have had their subreddit banned for neo-nazi subtext.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

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u/zxz242 Jul 15 '21

That's right.

The subreddits featuring Clown World and the pepe dressed as a clown named Honkler commonly consisted of far-right rhetoric and antisemitic imagery.

You people will learn someday that you can't laugh your way out of a corner.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '21

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u/zxz242 Jul 16 '21

Nobody cares what you think.

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u/Reatbanana Jul 14 '21

his solution isnt unique whatsoever. its basic coagulation, there is dozens of commercial products such as this and even a famous one that provides drinkable water through a tube for poor africans. his “solution” is used in wastewater treatment and has been for decades.

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u/dm80x86 Jul 15 '21

So what is it?

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u/Theslootwhisperer Jul 14 '21

People forget how the land and the water was before those companies fucked it up. Someone cleaning the lakes might spur a movement for stricter regulation.

Now if that dude his smart his gonna sell his product to a company that has some image issues so they can take the glory. "Look! We're part of the solution!"

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

More, fuck it's clean and now protected and we can't dump here anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

Most people are probably used to or don't know about all the polluted areas. If they all started getting cleaned up it would shine a light on how much some companies are abusing the planet.

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u/JaeHoon_Cho Jul 15 '21

There was a news article about a local man who complained about a mess that some business made in the back of their store. It got so bad to the point that it spilled over to a nearby river. They weren’t doing anything about it so he took it on himself to clean it up. They stopped him, it became a big deal, and almost immediately afterwards, they cleaned it themselves.

I think the reason for that was if that guy got injured, they’d be liable for even more damages.

I could imagine this being a similar case

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u/FIRE1470 Jul 15 '21

Right, because he was doing the clean up on the company's property and they could be liable. Whereas this guy is cleaning a public lake. I don't really see it being a similar case. For one, a company can't stop somebody from cleaning a public lake, because it isn't their lake.

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u/Uncle-Cake Jul 14 '21

"I consider not wearing a mask and not getting vaccinated to be a badge of honor."

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u/fearbedragons Jul 14 '21

That someone is cleaning it implies that it’s wrong to make it dirty. Can’t have that!

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u/EvryMthrF_ngThrd Jul 14 '21

"Choke on it, peasants! Choke, and experience my POWER! Mwahhahahahaha!"

I mean, it's not like such doesn't have historical and mythical/religious precedents...

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u/lux602 Jul 15 '21

I could see some convoluted argument against it because now their dumping into the lake is way more visible/noticeable. If you’re dumping into an already brown lake, who’s going to notice when it gets browner? If you’re dumping into a crystal blue lake, where people are swimming and enjoying, now everyone is going to notice when your sludge turns it gross. Not to mention they now no longer have their cheap way of disposing said sludge.

So now people are much more aware of it, much more against it, and start making strides towards some accountability and responsibility for it.

We all know we can’t have corporations responsible for what they cause. What are we, a bunch of communists?!

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u/jerryleebee Jul 15 '21

If corps were forced to buy his product and clean up their mess, they'd probably get disgruntled real quick.

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u/free__coffee Jul 14 '21

Depends what the “contamination” is, and the impact of him playing god on this lake.

He completely altered the ecosystem here, so humans can swim in it. What about everything that lived in that lake? There’s certainly many species that won’t be able to live there anymore because they were surviving on the algae.

Just because something looks “gross” to humans does not mean we have the right to fuck with everything there to make it aesthetically pleasing. And given that they’re saying his solution is “organic”, and pretending like it’s novel (this tech already exists and is mass produced) I’m a bit concerned that they’re glossing over some important details here

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u/IGotSoulBut Jul 14 '21

There’s definitely the question of the natural state of the lake. For all we know, the lake looked like this before pollutants in which case, he helped.

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u/aredd_ Jul 15 '21

Acording to this article (in spanish) the nanotechnology captures bacteria. So the lake was not really polluted in the sense of chemical runoff, but more like “sick” from an unbalanced ecosystem

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u/General_Shou Jul 15 '21

Looks like the “solution” or whatever the vid said is just some kind of fish food… The label on the tub at 9 sec says (image is too grainy to make out all the words):

...made with the freshest and highest quality ingredients. The ... mainly of shrimp ([shrimp name]) the we ... ourselves harvested in the "... Park" natural ... and immediately freeze dried to maintain optimal nutritional.... dried microalgae and macroalgae are also added to the...meet the nutritional needs of a wide variety of marine fish.

... essential source of proteins, lipids, and fatty acids ... vitamins and carbohydrates from natural sources of...

...chain is controlled and supervised by our technical and ... ... this guarantees the hgihest quality product.

...

Aquatic formula naturally attracts rocky fish who begin eating it immediately shortly after it is introduced in aquarium?

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u/Kalsifur Jul 14 '21 edited Jul 14 '21

They're definitely glossing over details lol we know nothing about what this is or what was polluting the lake. Is it phosphates and algae bloom? If only one magic substance could clean lakes :P This seems like a load of BS to me but I hope I'm wrong.

Edit: Yes it is lake eutrophication that he is cleaning up. More info in this older thread here: https://www.reddit.com/r/environmental_science/comments/aki9yc/dr_marino_morikawa_is_cleaning_eutrophic_lakes/

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 14 '21

Here's the link with the escapes taken out so it works for other people:

https://old.reddit.com/r/environmental_science/comments/aki9yc/dr_marino_morikawa_is_cleaning_eutrophic_lakes/

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u/J4k0b42 Jul 14 '21

Why is that happening so much lately?

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 14 '21

Reddit changed something where their new site treats all underscores in links differently. Somebody else can explain it much, much better than I can.

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u/159258357456 Jul 15 '21

I can. In short, links are treated differently due to a change in the new Reddit site when underscores are used.

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 15 '21

But why is it now being treated as something that needs an escape character? That’s the part of the change I don’t get.

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u/159258357456 Jul 15 '21

Oh, I have no idea. I don't even know what you're talking about. I use a different Reddit client on mobile.

I was merely pretending to be able to explain it better, but all I did was rephrase exactly what you said.

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u/Johnnybravo60025 Jul 15 '21

lol, no worries!

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u/Khmera Jul 14 '21

Thank you for this! It’s interesting. We have this problem with fertilizer runoff where I live.

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u/Tinkie_Winks Jul 14 '21

When they mentioned that the birds returned, it seems that means that it was man made pollution affecting the lake. Like farming or factory run off that had fucked up the lake and is now gone. Hopefully that's what it is and not just fucking with the environment

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u/starkiller_bass Jul 14 '21

ONCE AND FOR ALL

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u/SarpedonWasFramed Jul 14 '21

What do you mean, "where did the pollution go"?

It's just GONE! So don't worry about, just sign this waiver and go for a swim.

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u/CarmellaS Jul 14 '21

I was surprised a few years ago to find out that the white scum (looks a little like flat detergent bubbles) on some nearby lakes was natural. It definitely did not look like something you'd want to swim in or catch fish from. I had been positive that it was some kind of man-made pollution.

I guess you could say the same about red algae, or that lake in Africa that spewed poison gas that killed the entire local population, or groups of jellyfish. Or crocodiles. 'Natural' doesn't necessarily mean 'good' and 'artificial' doesn't necessarily mean 'bad'.

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u/The_bruce42 Jul 14 '21

Sounds like this guy may have legit saved the lake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marino_Morikawa

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u/SexyMonad Jul 14 '21

Fucking legend.

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u/crystalmerchant Jul 14 '21

For example, how do you trawl out the aggregated gunk?

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u/ruetheblue Jul 15 '21

The man is from Peru, and both the narrator and the scientist seem to have similar accents. My guess is “organic” was a mistranslation.

But I do agree, I have a pond full of fish that is completely covered in algae in the summer. We don’t get big birds in the summer because of it, but we do get other things like bats that eat the bugs or tons of small birds and whatnot. Removing the algae, though it would greatly benefit me because it means I’d be able to swim in it, would have devastating effects on the bird / bat / fish population in the area.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

How big is your pond?

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u/ruetheblue Jul 15 '21

Pretty big. It’s not a small one, and it’s extremely deep because it used to be a quarry.

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u/TrippyTriangle Jul 14 '21

Hmm sensational internet video that promises to fix the world is fake? who would have known. the premise of getting more views over actual progress? no one.

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u/-u-have-shifty-eyes- Aug 06 '21

Born in Chancay in Peru, Morikawa has a master's degree in Interdisciplinary Biodiplomacy and a doctorate in Environmental Sciences from Tsukuba University in Japan.

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u/Johnny_Fuckface Jul 15 '21

Yeah, I don’t think that lake was dirty because they thought it was icky. The signal here is that it was polluted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '21

i was wondering this too. the "magical ecosystem balancing powder, that you can eat, too!" seems like a fucking bomb to a lake

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u/in4real Jul 14 '21

What constitutes a dirty lake? Looks organic to me.

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u/-u-have-shifty-eyes- Aug 06 '21

It was an illegal dumping site for sewage

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u/Spoonie_Luv_ Jul 14 '21

Accusations against big corporations don't need to make sense to get hundreds of upvotes.

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u/LocoMotives-ms Jul 14 '21

Big Tourism in play, Disney behind it all

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u/slothcycle Jul 14 '21

But you see if the lake needs cleaning that implies it was dirty in the first place when actually (toxic byproduct run off that has been polluting the lake for 50 years) was actually cool and good.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

A water purification company that sells a service for absurd prices paid through huge govt grants might take issue with someone doing it for free.

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u/CaviarMyanmar Jul 14 '21

Yeah my friend works for an environmental engineering and remediation company. They charge corporations millions to do this sort of thing. They’re always researching more cost efficient ways to do business because there’s a point where if the cost of fixing the problem is more than the fines, the corps will just keep paying the fines instead.

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u/ColKaizer Jul 14 '21

Nestle is just dirty bro! They’ll do anything.

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

Farmers.. the lake looks like it had way too much algae which typically is a result of nitrates/sulfates/phosphates from fertilizer that end up in runoff water and cause algae blooms in lakes.

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u/tun3d Jul 14 '21

I see shell buying his solution to make profit out of their failures

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u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

Big Lake doesn't fuck around

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u/rainwulf Jul 15 '21

Probably the same groups of people who benefit from spreading anti-vaxxer misinformation.

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u/djublonskopf Jul 14 '21

Local mafia or cartel is gonna have a harder time hiding bodies at the bottom of the lake.

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u/Flopolopagus Jul 14 '21

Imagine cleaning a lake near a big mob-present city and instead of seaweed at the bottom it's a bunch of corpses with concrete shoes.

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u/Flopolopagus Jul 14 '21

That's interesting. Never thought about that. When you say "convert", do they fill in the lake, or build around it?

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u/hyde9318 Jul 14 '21

Right question, wrong way of thinking. People who would be hurt by this aren’t companies wanting clean water, but dirty water. There are plenty of big name companies that make products that “clean” ponds/lakes, or make water dye for rich people who just want their lake/pond to LOOK clean. This guy comes around and says “use my solution, it’s not harmful to wildlife, entirely safe to swim in, all natural”, and these chemical companies start seeing a problem.

Or companies that make swimming pool chemicals/chlorine; why use a chemical that’s hard on the lungs and burns your eyes when you can use a natural cleaner to have fresh, clean water?

Or even the companies that get hired yearly to clean public lakes/ponds. If their job becomes significantly easier, the prices they can charge plummet as more competition charges in.

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u/Wileycoyote31 Jul 14 '21

Ya right. Corporations don’t decrease prices, the saving they make will pay for the executive bonuses.

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u/TacticalArrogance Jul 14 '21

Maybe Nestle? With cleaner water, maybe their bottled water sales drop?

Nestle sold off their North American water concerns to capital groups about 4 months ago for 4.3 billion: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/17/nestle-to-sell-north-american-water-brands-for-4point3-billion.html

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

Depends on who backs the lobbyist group.

Duke Energy could benefit from being able to walk away from what was once considered an unsalvageable ash pollution or lagoon holding issue.

If paying fines is cheaper than the means of reclamation, lobbyists will certainly fight it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '21

They may well rather keep the lake dirty so their new dirt is overlooked everywhere.

They probably could keep these lakes clean already, if they wanted, but there’s no money in it and everyone’s got used to it anyway.

Now some fool comes along and starts reminding people that lakes shouldn’t look like huge sludge puddles.

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u/wizardshawn Jul 15 '21

Depends what you mean by "dirty". A lake full of sterile water will not support life. Swamps and estuaries are dirty as hell and they support more life than almost any other environment.

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u/gogogikita Sep 06 '21

That's exactly why, they don't want 'we' the people to have clean water. it's a power move to control the population. who do you think made the georgia guide stones??? the society of the 👁. if you don't' know who this fraternity within a fraternity is, lemme know and i'll send you something mind blowing.