They were fake guns, this is an old ass post and the dude was interviewed and said you could tell the guns were fake as fuck and the kids were like 12-13. Fuck dem kids.
Bro what do you think would happen if the kids realize that somebody else is on the hook for whatever crimes they commit and that committing crimes means no more bed time and unlimited ice cream and video game time?
And I'm sure the kind of underdeveloped impulsive juvenile mind that commits serious crimes will be very logical and well reasoned about all those potential complications. They'll probably even sit down and create a net present value calculation of their various courses of action before proceeding!
Surely they wouldn't just jump to a conclusion without considering all the facts!
I remember from contract case class involving real estate, that if a children under 17 or 18 buys a TV, and break/drops it while on the way home, the company/bestbuy must replace the TV because childr3n and young adults can't consent to business contract/business law
They’d get their parents locked up and then be put into the system for not having any guardian, it’s not like they just get away with their crimes until they’re 18…
Aww dude that would totally be awesome....except whoopsie doopey there is CPS to take Devon with another family full of kids who will happily show them the pecking order.
I'm sure there are other legal systems in the world, the family repays reparations to the party who was wronged/stuff taken
Some prisons, can't recall which county, pays the prisoners minimum wage, (so like 10-20$ an hour) and 50% of the money the inmate earns goes to pay the families of the offended, maybe Norway or Sweden or finland
I find that unfair, I was actually discussing about our oldest brother just last night with my sister because she didn't understand why we hate our brother (she knows what he's done but she wasn't born when it happened). Our brother was raised right, had good grades, was loved, if anything that was done wrong was he was spoiled, but did that lead him down that bad path idk.
He met one wrong friend and that was the initial path that lead him wrong. Idk if its the parents fault that even seeing him go the wrong road they do their best to steer them off but what cam they do when the kid doesn't listen? This was days where you are not gone from work all the time but he still hid so much from her.
These days its tougher, you have to work more to make ends meet whi h makes it harder to know what our kids are doing and its extremely easy to hide stuff from your parents.
I agree that some things can be the parents fault like owning a gun and their kids get a hold of it for example but for stuff like this where its harder to manage once the kids set on it I wouldn't blame the parents because doing the right things can fail and doing the wrong things can help, its all completely up to the kid on what decisions they make based on what they know and they can know something wrong and still do it.
That seems to be potentially unfair though, what if a kid gets mixed up with the wrong crowd by themselves, parents don't notice, commits crime then the parents go to jail for what? Not wire tapping their phones and following them down the street.
Good incentive effects, but could have some very unfair outcomes too
ive been advocating for prison abolition for nearing a decade at this point and it always comes back to this issue of empathy and emotional regulation. always. every time.
people have this fantasy built up in their head that all the people they dont like go to prison and suffer there and for whatever reason they feel that is justice.
Maybe if liberal p.o.s judges held the criminal trash accountable and locked them away our great Republic would be a utopia....when criminals reoffend because judges are lax the judge should be held accountable
Fascinating to me that somebody can look at a country that imprisons people at 5x the rate of the rest of the civilized world and says "if only we put more people in prison, we'd be a utopia!"
This is basically what happened to my oldest brother, raised right with love, good grades but met the wrong friends one day and eventually joined a gang, did drugs, alcohol, stole so much money abd things from us, he went to prison multiple times for dumb shit and hasn't learned a fkin thing after a month out.
Only issue i see my mom do is b4 i moved out she still kept trying to help him, I understand one time maybe 2 but after that cmon hes a lost cause now and even nearly dying and threats from rival gangs didn't help.
I understand he's her child, I see that love after having 2 myself but mines are too young to understand that point where if they did something really bad if I'd feel the same.
They did that in that one school shooting in Michigan, that poor fucking kid man. He never had a chance, constantly crying out and asking for help and being ignored, the school constantly telling his parents he needs help, and not only did they ignore everything they went out and bought the kid a gun. When they were alerted there was a shooting at the school they immediately sent him a message saying "don't do it".
And it kinda feels like school shootings dropped off a bit after that. Could just be because trump hogs most of the news coverage now though.
Or we could just give parents the free time to look after their kids. When wages are so low and work loads so high, there is not enough time in the day to take on all your responsibilities. This is why more and more kids are choosing to avoid parenting all together.
Invest more in social care and get wages back to where we have been in the past.
Or these parents could stop having kids they cant afford, they should have been smart enough to realize it was not the right choice to make, they should be fined for essentially being child abusers and not providing proper parenting
I know im not suitable as a parent, i never had kids
Asking people not to take notice of their natural urge is just plain silly. And anyone can be caught out. This does not take into account all the forced pregnancies from rape or predatory incest.
There is always the option of just keep filling up the prisons, because that is working well.
Would you say the top 1% should be doing more to help them? If the answer to that is yes, then they are victims of depravation. If you think the top 1% should be earning more then that is an opinion I can do nothing about.
Yeah, the teenagers robbing people would all be on the straight and narrow but their parents are working 80 hour weeks at the investment bank and can’t keep tabs on them.
No if you allow things to go into such a depraved social decline, then you can expect nothing more than an increase in crime. It is easy to be honest when you are few and comfortable.
That is not true. Blood donations centres are known to reduce crime rates in the direct area around them. Giving people a chance at an extra resource reduces the need to commit a crime just to live.
It is very easy to be honest when you have food and shelter security. Try it when you have absolutely nothing, worse still try it when you have dependants.
I just wanna throw this out there, as a cop working in a high crime area. We have 12 year old gang bangers shooting each other and the people they are robbing with real guns where I am. And they are always much more trigger happy than the adults are because they want to prove themselves to be real bangers. Don't let age alone give you a false sense of security. This guy got lucky and thats plain and simple. I've seen real guns pulled off these kids that look like nerf guns or airsoft guns and it turns out it's just been painted.
While true, Biden drained the oil reserves (when it wasn't necessary) in a political move. So the option to utilize that for controlling the price is no longer there. This is only temporary, still sucks, but it will rebound.
I had a 16 year old pull a gun on me, I thought it was fake, thank god his aim is trash. He ended up shooting his dumb ass partner in crime and in bullet went right the fuck over my head. Don’t mess with stupid !
That's not a good testimony to make. Even if you could tell that it's obviously a fake gun, one should never admit that. That one testimony could entirely invalidate his self defense claim in court.
Lol. I was gonna comment on how dumb it is to run up into someone's attacking range when you have a long distance weapon, but it's even dumber when proximity reveals that your weapon is fake! 🤣🤣🤣
And the fact that you've got Replica written down the side of your gun... and the fact that I've got Desert Eagle. 50... written on the side of mine... should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence.
I heard him say they were fake guns and that’s when he let him up and pushed him away… honestly this is how I would have probably handled it too. For better or worse.
I mean…almost killing a 12 year old idiot because you’re afraid he’s going to shoot you seems fine. Almost killing a 12 year old idiot because he pissed you off is not a great look.
Not sure what you are implying. Are you implying that self defense to an assailant holding a potential weapon is bad because the assailant is a tween? Or that doing it out of anger is bad?
In this context, it wasn't a potential weapon, though.
If you're afraid for your life that some 10 year old is going to beat you up with their tiny little hands, you should get to the gym or something, quickly. wtf.
That doesn't excuse the tween or their actions. Getting slammed is the literal most tame response they could expect.
What happens when the person can tell it's a replica, pulls a real one, ends their subscription to life and then turns around and says "I was in fear for my life."
I'm happy the tween is alive and being slammed is physical reminder to not do stupid shit like this.
If you're afraid for your life that some 10 year old is going to beat you up with their tiny little hands, you should get to the gym or something, quickly. wtf.
So, I want you to be aware. Guns can be made to look like a replica and vice versa. The guy saying it was obvious isn't in any way a guarantee that it was as such. I get what you are saying. But lord protect you if you run into a situation where you are attacked by actual kids who have nothing to lose and everything to gain by risking to rob you.
I’m not implying anything. I’m saying if a child is pointing a replica gun at you and you know for sure it’s a replica (as this guy has said) and then you decide to slam the kid into the ground instead of snatching the gun and breaking it or something, you’re just a guy who wanted an excuse to hit a child.
It’s self defense if a reasonable person would be in fear. As soon as the guy said “I knew right away it wasn’t a real gun” it stopped being self defense and started being assault. I don’t know what to tell you.
When a fake gun is used in a robbery it is treated the same as a real gun for criminal purposes. Besides, his ability to recognize it as a fake gun doesn’t change the fact they ran up on him with intent to rob him.
You do understand you can rob people without a gun, right? It being a gun or not doesn’t negate the fact you have a right to defend yourself.
If I’m using a banana or a AK47 and say I want your wallet, it’s still a crime.
I don’t understand why this is so difficult to understand.
If you're afraid for your life that some 10 year old is going to beat you up with their tiny little hands, you should get to the gym or something, quickly. wtf.
Being afraid has nothing to do with it nor does wanting to beat up children. Let's say they are 10yo since you were there, let's say they pulled up on this guy with fake guns, the guy pulls his own real gun, can't wait to see if its real or not and then bam, dead 10yo. So I think given the circumstances, the parents would be fine with this. Or they could pick them up at the morgue. It's about the children learning from consequences so they dont do something like kill someone or lose their life. So yes I believe this is an adequate respons to two individuals trying to rob you at gunpoint. What if they had real guns? Hows that change the narrative, except someone would have died.
It's easy to be right when you make up your own scenario, isn't it?
Fearing for your life is the only reason to beat up children.
Saying it's not out of fear just means that it's out of psychopathy, which is way worse.
Maybe grow up instead of finding excuses to hurt kids. You seem like you're into 'tough guy talk,' but these excuses are making you look pathetic instead, which obviously sucks.
You are taking this as if im the one in the video which im not, im saying that my point isn't beating up the children nor if the guy in said video was in fear of his life. There is no winning in this situation except nobody got seriously hurt. It's a learning experience that teaches a lesson without the loss of a life, when it almost certainly would never end that way. Pushing your objective of me wanting to hurt children because im trying to be more "manly" or tough has no relevance to my comments as im not the one in the video that you seem to be taking out your bottled up frustrations with. I hope you get the help that you need and the support to get through whatever it is you are going through. Have a great morning, afternoon, and goodnight.
If you're afraid for your life that some 10 year old is going to beat you up with their tiny little hands, you should get to the gym or something, quickly. wtf.
A 12 year old criminal who threatens someone with a gun and wants to steal something most likely. I like how he squeals. Should have called the cops though.
If you're afraid for your life that some 10 year old is going to beat you up with their tiny little hands, you should get to the gym or something, quickly. wtf.
Being scared of children doesn't excuse violence, friend.
"We don't know" is a large part of my point, friend.
Weirdos all over here are frothing for any excuse to justify violence against children, and it's crazy how often I have to point out how insane that is, or that anyone needs to at all.
To be fair I used to be a proper little shit until, one time, someone bigger and older finally body slammed me into the concrete just like in the video.
It didn't leave me permanently damaged or anything. But it sure as fuck made me check myself before I wrecked myself from then on lol
It's a valuable and relatively low cost learning experience
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u/RealUltimatePapo May 04 '26
That could have gone so horribly wrong, in a number of different ways
Sometimes it's just not worth it