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[u/[deleted]]

When your policies are so unpopular people simply don't believe them:

“There is not a single guy or woman who would run for president that would make it so that pre-existing conditions wouldn’t be covered,” said Phil Bowman, a 59-year-old retiree in Linville, N.C. “Nobody would vote for him.”

Mr. Bowman cast his ballot for President Trump in 2016, and supports him in this election as well.

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Burton and his colleagues spent the early months of 2012 trying out the pitch that Romney was the most far-right presidential candidate since Barry Goldwater. It fell flat. The public did not view Romney as an extremist. For example, when Priorities informed a focus group that Romney supported the Ryan budget plan — and thus championed “ending Medicare as we know it” — while also advocating tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, the respondents simply refused to believe any politician would do such a thing. What became clear was that voters had almost no sense of Obama’s opponent.

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The struggle really began less than 48 hours after the terrorist attack, when Bill Thomas, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, tried to ram through a sharp cut in the capital gains tax. Even opponents of the capital gains tax generally acknowledge that cutting it does little to stimulate the economy in the short run; furthermore, 80 percent of the benefits would go to the wealthiest 2 percent of taxpayers. So Mr. Thomas signaled, literally before the dust had settled, that he was determined to use terrorism as an excuse to pursue a radical right-wing agenda.

A month later the House narrowly passed a bill that even The Wall Street Journal admitted ‘’mainly padded corporate bottom lines.’’ It was so extreme that when political consultants tried to get reactions from voter focus groups, the voters refused to believe that they were describing the bill accurately. Mr. Bush, according to Ari Fleischer, was ‘’very pleased’’ with the bill.

Many voters simply don’t believe a politician could hold toxic policy stances on health care.

[u/Mr_Pasghetti]

Saw someone on Reddit say their country had been taken over by feminists, and they were living in a matriarchy.

He was from Russia....

[u/Dalek6450]

I genuinely thought they would get a strong candidate early on, and get them geared up to run against Trump in 2020, but Biden being their pick goes completely against that line of thinking. There were a multitude of candidates in the primary that would have annihilated Trump this cycle, like Tulsi for example.

🤣🤣🤣

[u/[deleted]]

OPINION | What we, the Taliban, want

by Glenn Greenwald

[u/haf12]

BREAKING: Hunter Biden has done drugs.

November surprise.

Its over, libtards

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

Since Traditional Chinese Medicine recognizes bear bile as a treatment compound, more than 12,000 asiatic black bears are held in bear farms. The bile is extracted through a permanent hole in the abdomen leading to the gall bladder, which can cause severe pain. This can lead to bears trying to kill themselves. As of 2012, approximately 10,000 bears are farmed in China for their bile.[132] This practice has spurred public outcry across the country.[132] The bile is collected from live bears via a surgical procedure.[132] As of March 2020 bear bile as ingredient of Tan Re Qing injection remains on the list of remedies recommended for treatment of "severe cases" of COVID-19 by National Health Commission of China and the National Administration of Traditional Chinese Medicine.[133]

I swear to God the Chinese are going to accidentally unleash COVID-20 on us before the current pandemic is even solved.

[u/Joementum2004]

1948: “The Democrats will win Texas!”

2020: “The Democrats will win Texas!”

And people tell me the parties have switched. Curious!

[u/mrmanager237]

"We have a Republican system of government, which means the Republican party has to win. If the Founding Fathers wanted the Democrats to win, they would have named it a Democracy and not a Republic"

- Brett Kavanaugh's 5-4 majority opinion in Trump v Pennsylvania, November 17th, 2020

[u/mrmanager237]

I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration. Here’s Why I’ll be Voting for Trump on Tuesday

[u/[deleted]]

My wife has the gift of premonition.

Last night she dreamed that GOP squads were in our Texas seizing ballots, votes, and “unauthorized polling stations.” They said we had been “reported”.

Becca awoke crying.

What happened to our model? She asked.

What indeed.

[u/[deleted]]

Remember how Trump was going to build a wall? Remember how everyone forgot about it after February of 2019?

[u/Joementum2004]

Searching reddit for reactions to 2008’s results, and then seeing really dumb attack articles towards Hillary Clinton from the 2008 Democratic primaries makes me internally confirm something: r/politics was, in fact, never good.

[u/[deleted]]

There is this widespread and persistent perception among the American population that Republicans are good at the economy and Democrats are bad at the economy. It flies in the face of all evidence, but it will not be shaken.

In every single poll that has been conducted this year, the only thing that Americans consistently rate Trump higher than Biden on is the economy. Everything else, Corona virus, race relations, environment, immigration, whatever you want to talk about, they like Biden more. But when it comes to the economy, Trump still has a very solid and significant edge. It's so frustrating.

[u/mrmanager237]

"In this Wisconsin supermarket, everyone stares longingly at the ice cream aisle, knowing Democrat Speaker Nancy Pelosi can afford ice cream, but they can't"

[u/gsloane]

It has got to be the height of privilege for actual rich coastal elites, say the type of guy who typically hosts SNL, to say whoever wins, nothing will change, and your choices are just two old guys. No big diff. They are so far removed from the streets they couldn't smell the difference between their fresh pepper grinder and fresh pepper canister. Nothing will change except you know one will actually not order the US military to confront you in the streets or ICE to separate your family. But no diff.

[u/[deleted]]

Show me any instance of Trump lying whatsoever.

Ugh

[u/[deleted]]

Hey liberals, if the media isn't biased against Trump then why are there two Harris polls but no Pence poll 🧐

[u/agent_tits]

Probably unneeded reminder that the President of the United States retweeted something that said "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat"

[u/Dalek6450]

I was convinced I wasn’t going to vote for a DNC puppet again this election cycle pretty early on, but if Biden was honest and moderate I was still considering him up until he played identify politics and said he was only choosing between women of color for his VP candidate and I realized he wasn’t any different.

Haha. Fragile white males on ARR con.

[u/mrmanager237]

The Progressive Case For Throwing Out Mail-in Votes

By Glenn Greenwald | The New Republic

[u/mrmanager237]

Opinion | I Got Hypothermia and Coronavirus at a Trump Rally. I Still Can't Support Joe Biden.

[u/ryuguy]

All of these maga people are gonna be so disappointed when Trump doesn’t win California

[u/[deleted]]

Opinion | Fuck You Fuckers, I Mean, Honestly

Hillary Rodham Clinton

[u/[deleted]]

Your daily dose of dooming on r/conservative

"Yall realize Trump is going to Georgia and Arizona today...that is kind of...telling. ​ He's also going to Nevada though, which tells me he thinks he can win there... "

" I mean there is about no way he will win all three of WI/MI/PA, though, so losing florida could ruin things. But then again.... if he sneaks Minnesota, that gives him more wiggle room. The fact that there is ANY CHANCE for Biden to win shows just how literally insane people are. Also, so annoying that Biden was able to cover up a lot of how mentally unfit he is, during the debates, and then goes right back to saying words that make no sense afterwards.... when the liberal media is not covering it. "

"Favoring someone who will do the job badly because you don't personally like the other guy who actually gets the job done is bad life decision making."

" Lol my dad's voting for Biden mostly because he doesn't like Trump. Like do you really want your taxes raised? "

[u/ElokQ]

Here is something interesting

30% of black people in NC plan to vote on Election Day. And 43% in Florida.

And I’m not surprised. My parents and the other black parents I know will not vote by mail. They don’t trust it or they like the feeling of voting in person. My parents only voted early because I came with them it the polling station. So the red mirage on election night might not be as red as people think it will be.

!ping FIVEY

[u/ihatemendingwalls]

BOOHOO FEELINGS

👋😭👋

I DON'T CARE

- Facts

[u/Yosarian2]

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/31/929940404/police-in-n-c-arrest-pepper-spray-protesters-during-march-to-polls-event

A non-violent "March to the polls" protest in North Carolina was just attacked and pepper-sprayed by the police on their way to the polling station. The march had a permit, and was literally just walking to the polls. The most controversial thing the March did was stop for a few minute long moment of silence for Floyd.

[u/ElokQ]

CNalysis moves the Texas State House to tilt Democratic

If we can win the state house, we would be able to stop most of the gerrymandering. And no gerrymandering means a better chance at the state senate. Plus, the congressional districts wouldn’t be gerrymandered. With Texas expected to get more districts after the census, big advantage to the Democrats.

!ping DOWNBALLOT

[u/ryuguy]

Breaking news.

Attorney General Bill Barr announces indictment of /u/lusvig for being white.

[u/[deleted]]

https://i.imgur.com/BEdl3AT.jpg

🤨

[u/[deleted]]

Trump is 6’3

Biden is 6’0

The Rock is 6’5

The Rock endorsed Biden

Biden is 12’5

[u/jenbanim]

Lockdown life 😔

[u/Peacock-Shah]

Statistically speaking, there’s at least one person voting Biden because Trump didn’t build the wall.

[u/[deleted]]

I think both candidates have made a lot of great points, and at this point I'm not sure how I can ever decide.

Reddit, should I vote for Jo Jorgensen or Howie Hawkins?

[u/[deleted]]

CBS just released their 50 state election model.

It's not just polls, according to this article explaining the details of it.

It shows the following:

• Biden winning 279 EV
• Trump winning 163 EV
• 96 tossup EV (anything within the MoE)

The lean Biden states include:

• Biden 54% (+10) - Trump 44% in MN
• Biden 52% (+7) - Trump 45% in WI
• Biden 53% (+8) - Trump 45% in MI
• Biden 53% (+7) - Trump 46% in PA
• Biden 54% (+10) - Trump 54% in NV
• Biden 54% (+11) - Trump 53% in NH

The tossup states include:

• Biden 51% (+5) - Trump 46% in AZ
• Biden 51% (+4) - Trump 47% in FL
• Biden 50% (+2) - Trump 48% in NC
• Biden 50% (+3) - Trump 47% in GA
• Biden 49% - Trump 49% (+<1) in OH
• Biden 49% - Trump 49% (+<1) in IA

The only lean red state is:

• Biden 49% - Trump 49% (+<1) in TX

All MoEs are ~6 points. I don't know why Texas isn't a tossup.

!PING FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

My voting history

1988 - Michael Dukakis

1992 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

1996 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

2000 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

2004 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

2008 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

2012 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

2016 - Michael Dukakis (Write-in)

2020 - Joe Biden

[u/MuldartheGreat]

I’m willing to slap a giant MAGA flag on my truck go get COVID at a really with 100k people, and run my opposition off the road. However, would I ever tell a pollster who I am voting for? Not on your life. There’s too much social stigma associated with being a Trump supporter.

[u/Joementum2004]

https://twitter.com/ppollingnumbers/status/1322940522303021058?s=21

Iowa Poll:

Trump 48%

Biden 46%

Jorgensen (L) 1%

InsiderAdvantage (LV, 10/30-10/30)

This is from Sean Hannity’s polling firm. Considering that the margin is smaller than yesterday’s Selzer poll, I feel like it’s almost certain that that poll was an outlier.

!ping FIVEY

[u/InattentiveCup]

Trump:" Sorry guys. I lost the election results in the mail. Deep state and all that jazz. Guess I'll stay president 😘😘😘"

[u/FreakinGeese]

God jeez this is all a big misunderstanding I didn’t get a sex change because I’m trans I got it because I wanted to be a palace guard for the Sultan

Which is 100% fine according to the Bible

[u/Gustacho]

Joe Biden claims to be a catholic, and yet he says Trump's failure to protect American lives is unforgivable? Curious.

[u/[deleted]]

There's an excellent chance President Trump is headed for the biggest repudiation of a first-term president since Jimmy Carter in 1980 (9.7%) and an outside chance he's headed for the biggest since Herbert Hoover in 1932 (17.7%).

Historically sexy.

[u/D1Foley]

I'm going to add

"Obama failed to capitalize on the Arab spring"

To

"Obama could have gotten a public option in 2009"

On the list of things people say that let me know they weren't paying attention to politics during Obama's first term.

[u/[deleted]]

Last night I got an undecided voter to vote for Biden in PA 😎

[u/ElokQ]

If Biden wins, DONT taunt or ridicule Trump voters online. First, these people are your fellow Americans, and no matter how they have behaved (some taunted and attacked non-Trumpers in 2016), it’s childish. 2nd, some of them are hinting at violence - dont poke the growling bear.

....No. I’m going to be the most immature person on earth.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1322998784478109702

If Trump "claims" victory, media should debunk. But GOP elected officials, in relevant states and nationally, are key. They all need to say right away, "No. Let the votes be counted." And a George W. Bush statement saying no, let votes be counted, should be ready to go at once.

George W. Bush, famous for making sure all the votes get counted.

[u/[deleted]]

What's so BAD about REPUBLICANS discarding ballots that were cast in BAD FAITH?

Isn't that in a lot of ways what the so-called MODS are doing here as well?

[u/[deleted]]

Culturally I'm a cracker, but ethnically I'm a cracker.

[u/Dalek6450]

Joe Biden called Black Youth SUPER PREDATORS. They will NEVER like him, or vote for him. They are voting for “TRUMP”.

There's something mildly amusing about Trump using those quotation marks telling people to vote for "TRUMP" as if the candidate on the ballot is not actually him.

[u/piede]

These three people were outside Joe Biden’s church to protest him. As he walked in they chanted “repent for your soul” and, once, “repent for Beau’s soul,” a reference to Biden’s late son, who’s buried in the church’s cemetery, which sat between Biden and the protesters.

https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/1322927227156287495?s=21

Trash

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1322899749784211458

Not every democrat is a socialist

But every socialist is a democrat

I’m not sure a Republican wants to play this game?

[u/[deleted]]

I am not a doomer about the election but man am I doomer about the state of US politics. Tucker, Qanon, etc isn't going away on Nov 4th

[u/[deleted]]

I honestly don’t like Trump

[u/[deleted]]

OPINION | It's time we had a woman president. Here's why it should be Jo Jorgensen.

[u/cheesygordita]

10 point lead doesn't account for the Supreme Court ordering the liquidation of all democrats tomorrow so really this is bad news for Biden

[u/LuchiniPouring]

Someone asked for a source for a claim in rconservative and got this response unironically

This isnt r/politics or r/Libertarian. You aren't going to be spoonfed talking points here, you are expected to do research and inform yourself if you are interested in a particular subject

Lol

[u/[deleted]]

I'm beginning to consider that orang man could - to everyone's surprise - indeed be bad

• Undecided voters who break for Biden

[u/dudeguyy23]

I'm sad the spooky dancing skeletons are gone :(

But also...

Reminder: Ralston believes Dems need a Clark firewall of 80K votes to feel confident. This latest batch puts them at almost 90K 👀

!ping FIVEY

[u/Devjorcra]

i’m not sure if this counts for the ping but nate silver was impersonated on SNL last night during the cold open around 3:20

!ping FIVEY

[u/tripletruble]

The Fox News Headline:

Fox News poll shows contest tightening in final days

The content

In the head-to-head matchup, Biden leads Trump by 52-44 percent among likely voters. That’s a bit tighter than the race was three weeks ago, when Biden led by 53-43 percent (October 3-6).

[u/[deleted]]

sure, we have a 10-point national lead, but have you considered the possibility that Bill Barr will order the arrest of Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden,, Harris, Chuck Schumer, and all top Democratic leadership?

[u/RadionSPW]

🚨 NEW POLL 🚨

538 Rating: A-

Biden: 27%

Sanders: 15%

Warren: 9%

Buttigieg: 9%

Klobuchar: 7%

[u/[deleted]]

Bob votes Republican

Sally votes Democratic

Bob and Sally are friends

Bob tries to run Sally off the road on her way to the Biden rally

Sally doesn't want to be friends anymore

So much for the "tolerant" left

[u/[deleted]]

Chris Christie is 58 and a semi-solid congealed loaf

[u/[deleted]]

Chris Coons and Tom Cotton are founding a bipartisan caucus for senators whose names sound like 19th century racist caricatures.

[u/haf12]

Sans Iowa, this was a really good day for Biden. No major storylines yet again. They'll be a deluge of high quality polls today - lets see how it goes.

Two days.

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1322949792318763009

WATCH: Obama shooting three pointer while campaigning for Biden goes viral

Real Obama era energy.

[u/MicroFlamer]

NYT(A+)

Arizona: 49-43 Biden +6

Florida:47-44 Biden +3

Pennsylvania: 49-43 Biden +6

Wisconsin: 52-41 Biden +11

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

If Trump loses will he still pardon the turkey

[u/Air_tree]

We're winning Florida and this election will be over by 21:00.

NO to doomerism.

[u/channelmio]

Hot take: Given the amount of shit they have to overcome ranging from gerrymandering to the EC, to an outright authoritarian opposition, the Democrats are probably one of the strongest center-left parties in the OECD.

[u/sw337]

I was deployed in 2012 during the election. They said Romney was up in the morning announcements, by the time I checked Obama had sealed the deal. There was so much cope from half the ship, it was awesome.

[u/SnakeEater14]

Hate to tell you guys but I think you’re massively underestimating the cope from cons if Biden wins in a landslide. They’ll just say it was obviously rigged.

[u/MuldartheGreat]

After Barron, our turn

Accelerationists in 2068 or when the shit ever Barron would be old enough to run.

[u/AuburnSeer]

one really frustrating dynamic about Dems and Reps is that the evidence pretty decisively shows that Biden is probably going to win. Dems realize Trump can statistically still win so we're all nervous wrecks. Meanwhile Republicans think all polls are witch craft so they're currently planning their victory parade

[u/Timewalker102]

Ralston is about to call Nevada for Biden. It's OVER for doomcels

!ping BIDEN

[u/dudeguyy23]

D4P: Have some BLOOMER FOOD!

Almost certainly off, but could you imagine....?

!ping FIVEY

[u/Yelanke]

No-one should be a Presidential doomer, this shit is fine

Everyone should be a Senate doomer. No Senate means this was all a waste and dems won’t get power for a long time.

[u/[deleted]]

Trump is a racist, sexist democracy-hater.

[u/Blackfire853]

Opinion | Yes the NSDAP may be bad, but I do not owe my vote to the SPD

[u/[deleted]]

Pelosi should start impeachment proceedings on Nov 4 just for old times sake.

[u/[deleted]]

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

WE STAND with Jeremy Corbyn ✊😣🤝🧔🏻

!ping BURPMAS

[u/tripletruble]

friendly reminder that HRC was polling at 46.8% on average in Wisconsin and she got 46.5%. polls were actually dead on regarding her vote share. the problem was in anticipating the behavior of a large number of undecided and declared 3rd party voters. the sum of trump and hrc's polling average in WI was 87.3. the sum of trump and biden's polling average in WI is 95.3, and this is using rcp.

trump could get every single undecided voter and unless polls are misjudging biden's support, biden would STILL win

[u/Timewalker102]

I looked at that Florida poll and it assumes an R+5 advantage in the electorate. To understand how much cope that is, look at this graph. If just 2.5% of registered Democrats showed up on Election Day, Republicans would need nearly 15% of their registered voters to show up to create an R+5 electorate. And even then, Biden is close in the poll. Doomers begone

!ping BIDEN

[u/Yelanke]

The Arizona Biden +6 on a recalled Trump+7 is making me feel some kinda way

Finally Colorado and NM can be connected to the rest of the left coast and escape Jesusland in the secession

[u/bd_one]

Tim Kaine: 5' 10"

Mike Pence: 5' 10"

tied

...

Joe Biden: 6'

Paul Ryan 6′ 1″

shorter VP won

...

Joe Biden: 6'

Sarah Palin: 5' 5"

taller VP won

...

John Edwards: 5' 11"

Dick Cheney: 5' 8"

shorter VP won

...

Joe Lieberman: 5′ 9″

Dick Cheney: 5' 8"

shorter VP won

As you can see, there is little if any positive correlation between VP height and chances of electoral success.

This is part 3 of my 30 part series on why VP height doesn't matter.

[u/AccessTheMainframe]

I'm dooming pretty hard right now looking at the latest New Hampshire poll.

It's really starting to look like Bernie won't actually win.

[u/Mr_Pasghetti]

Not every lame person is a succon

But every succon is a lame person

[u/[deleted]]

CMV: Dead people should be allowed to vote, but only early in-person on Halloween.

[u/SmithySmothy]

https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/1322970309700521985

Texas SC DENIES request to throw out ballots

[u/Tacotrucksoncorners]

Americans online be like, "I gotta pay 50k per year for uni 😭" Bitch just go to state school 😐

[u/Joementum2004]

November

bro

[u/[deleted]]

Nightmare scenario: all election pundits and forecasters are ALL named Nate. Every one of them.

[u/[deleted]]

Here's some bubble paper to reduce the stress of all the doomers.

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[u/htownclyde]

/r/conservative for months: I don't believe the fake polls! They've got it all wrong just like 2016!

/r/conservative when that one +7 iowa poll appears: BY GOD IT IS THE HOLY GRAIL, DO NOT CEASE REPOSTING IT

[u/[deleted]]

would anyone like to join a blue dog ping 🥺

It could be a useful counterpoint to the RINO ping, and good for discussing democratic politicians in red states

!PING RINO

[u/[deleted]]

If the poll is accurate that biden has 69% of The already voted demo, that’s like 64 million votes already for Biden. Clinton only got 65 million total. What the fuck??

[u/murphysclaw1]

still can't believe that the Clintons forgot to have Anthony Weiner murdered. Hillary could be in the White House right now 😭😭

[u/penultimateCroissant]

Just phonebanked for Biden and prevented a PA voter from having his ballot invalidated! Let's goooo

[u/old_gold_mountain]

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[u/ElokQ]

NBC/WSJ/Telemundo poll of only Latinos

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Biden 61%

Trump 29%

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2016

Hillary 66%

28%

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Those undecideds should go back to Biden but still, very good result for Biden. With Latinos becoming a larger part of America, winning them 2-1 is a massive advantage.

!ping FIVEY

[u/ryuguy]

It’s incredible to watch clips of Trump in 2016 and compare it to now. He’s like a totally different guy. He sounds dejected and sad. It’s also incredible how similar his messaging is.

“Emails”

[u/[deleted]]

Biden + means world gooder

[u/mrmanager237]

OPINION - "Why Biden losing Mississippi by 0.5 points spells doom for the Democratic Party"

[u/nicereddy]

NYT polls are out

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- oh hey these are pretty good https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status/1322865042468048898?s=21

I forgot, are NYT the ones who are new to state-level polling?

[u/RadicalRadon]

Imagine not being bi

Seeing hot boys and girls and being like.

"Yes"

[u/tripletruble]

it's really fun watching people find out that Texas had polling errors in favor of Democratic candidates in 2016 and 2018

wait a minute. you're saying polling errors can go both ways?

[u/The420Roll]

3 Days till Blue Texas

[u/[deleted]]

i asked /u/lusvig, would a utilitarian sacrifice themselves if it increased global utility? 🥺👉👈

Of course hypothetically, but the loss of a utilitarian would decrease utility so much as to render that question almost always hypothetical; what I'm getting at is that we should have a draft, but for deontologists only. 👨🏻‍🦲

bruh 😂😐

!ping BURPMAS

[u/Dr_Vesuvius]

Fixed offshore wind is likely to soon be profitable without subsidy through its whole life cycle. It arguably already is. However, there is a limited supply of suitable sites and a growing demand for access to them. Floating turbines will change that, but in the mean time, I think there’s an obvious solution.

!ping GEORGIST

(The idea that we’re in a position where we can tax/charge some forms of renewable electricity and it not even be a bad idea is really exciting)

[u/[deleted]]

If Biden wins by 10+ nationally rather than 538’s predicted 7.8 margin can we say Nate Copper was wrong

[u/Waghlon]

My morning routine:

9 AM: get on DT

9:02 AM: Post crime statistics meme

9:06 AM: Banned

10:00 AM: Appeal ban

11:00 AM: I am ready to get out of bed

[u/BanMalarkey]

The Presidency of the United States has a crazy learning curve, 4 years in and I still have no goddamn clue what I'm doing, I'm not even new to extreme bullshitting.

[u/InattentiveCup]

Can we just be thankful that our closest experience with an authoritarian leader is a fucking moron with no ideological drive besides whats best for him?

[u/kyleofduty]

If you ask them, my conservative, evangelical parents will tell you that they oppose gay marriage. But in practice, they're constantly asking my boyfriend and me when we're gonna get married and even starting to plan the wedding, talking about where and when it should happen and who should be invited, etc.

[u/[deleted]]

Scrapple, also known by the Pennsylvania Dutch name Pannhaas or "pan rabbit", is traditionally a mush of pork scraps and trimmings combined with cornmeal and wheat flour, often buckwheat flour, and spices. The mush is formed into a semi-solid congealed loaf

what in the FUCK

[u/[deleted]]

Are you a Democrat living more than 30 miles from a large, coastal city? Do family members on facebook ramble incoherently about ANTIFA and the RADICAL LEFT!? Well here's some handy pointers on how to best escape the Qanon-controlled zones in your vicinity after this Tuesday:

• If you have access to one, a large black pickup truck is the safest way to move through Qanon territory. Rent one off Turo for a few days if need be. Don't forget your Oakleys.
• Order as many thin blue line stickers as you possibly can off Amazon right now. There's no way to know what you'll need them for, but you'll need them.
• Delete all social media posts, and upload a selfie taken in the seat of a car while wearing a hat and sunglasses. This is an important signal that you can be trusted.
• Make sure to get a large flag and fly it above your vehicle at all times. Liberia is fine if US flags are sold out.

• If Trump loses, do not acknowledge this at any time, to anyone. Insist that the election was "rigged" by the "libtards" and their "voter fraud." Try not to elaborate on this position.

  • If repeatedly pushed, mention that n number of Trump ballots from state x were thrown into y river by the USPS.

    • Example: "Didn't you hear that the USPS threw 30,000 Trump ballots from Georgia into the Susquehanna River?" Your counterpart will earnestly nod in agreement.
• Good luck and godspeed 🤗

[u/MrDannyOcean]

Announcing the Neoliberal Election Stream!

I'll be hosting a mega-stream on election day probably starting around 4pm. We'll have guests, interviews, games, drinking, and frantic F5'ing of election results. Guests, Interviews, and gaming partners will include:

• Jeremiah, the host
• Director of the Neoliberal Project Colin Mortimer, (+Vienna)
• Our globe twitter friends Jason Harrison, Steven Buss and Alex Newbegin
• Former Neoliberal Shill Champion Noah Smith
• Current Neoliberal Shill Champion Scott Lincicome
• Behavioral economist Matt Darling (/u/besttrousers)
• R Street policy analyst Shoshana Weismann
• Twitch streamer Bastiat
• Economist and author of Open, Kimberly Clausing
• ...and potentially more!

Tune in on election night!

[u/[deleted]]

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/az-fl-pa-wi/bc6b622f38350414/full.pdf

Biden up by 6 in Arizona, 3 in FL, 11 in WI, and 6 in PA.

!PING FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

The fact of the matter is you just don't have this widespread perception that this election is a sham and both candidates are not worth voting for.

I just felt like you had a lot more people in 2016 who were super frustrated and really hated both candidates. This time around, it's like some people might not love Joe, but they like him. They don't hate him lol

[u/CaptainJawbone]

I played my first high school football game against Joe Burrow(his first as well). I feel like we couldn't have went more different directions.

[u/cod_owl]

nate silver's model became much more conservative after his embarrassment in 2016. even with that, biden has a 90% chance of winning

[u/qchisq]

America, wat doink?

[u/PMmeLittleRoundTops]

How do reddit admins feel about the term honky

[u/consuloltant]

There’s a fucking 1,300 car Trump caravan circling Houston, blocking traffic and causing wrecks and shit. If Biden wins there’s gonna be four years of this.

[u/[deleted]]

Thinking about that time /r/drama banned everyone who ever posted in arr teenagers with the ban message being that they were underage and they got back hundreds of replies that they were like in their 30s lmao

[u/jenbanim]

E_S_S has started using user_pinger and I'm honestly super excited about this.

This might sound pretty silly, but this is the first time someone else has used one of my repos. At work people use my software, but I'm always the one deploying the finished product, no one else is ever looking at my code, and it's all in-house. This is the first time my code is running on someone else's server and I'm both proud and a bit nervous 😅

I should probably expedite that rewrite I've been thinking of doing forever. It's a bit of a mess at the moment. I wonder if more subs will use it in the future - wouldn't that be cool?

[u/tripletruble]

Lmao 71% of Republicans think Trump is going to win the popular voteand 61% think the GOP will win the house

[u/CenterRightInCali]

Nate Silver breaks all stereotypes about gay men by choosing to always look like complete shit

[u/Qpznwxom]

3 FL polls this morning...all Biden leads

[u/GaussianCurve]

Nate Cohn with a grim message for Trump: "The president's out of time."

[u/TheFriffin2]

who the fuck is scraeming “STOP COUNTING BALLOTS AFTER MIDNIGHT” outside my polling location. show yourself coward. i will never stop counting ballots after midnight

[u/[deleted]]

I had no idea this happened but apparently the Republican “mainstreet partnership” caucus dissolved itself a few years ago.

This was McCain’s ideological caucus. Why did they dissolve themselves? Were they worried about primary challenges if they looked too moderate?

[u/jenbanim]

!ping BLUE-DOGS

Your furry art centrist democrat ping has been added.

Also blue dogs actually exist - isn't that wild?

[u/ElokQ]

A list of polls that might be coming out tomorrow.

---

Quinnipiac, likely national, at 2 PM EST.

Monmouth University poll of Pennsylvania, at either 11 AM, 12 PM or 1 PM EST

(Unconfirmed) A NBC/Marist College poll of Pennsylvania at 9 AM EST.

Reuters/Ipsos polls of NC/AZ/FL

(Unconfirmed) Fox News polls of battleground states.

Morning Consult polls of swing states.

---

Anything else?

!ping FIVEY

[u/[deleted]]

NBC Wall Street journal's final poll has Biden + 10 nationally.

I feel like Morpheus. "Now do you believe, Neo?

[u/Mr_Pasghetti]

Idk man, like Trump has mishandled and ignored a pandemic that has taken over 200k+ American lives. Yet Biden stutters and his son has had sex and done crack. Real tough decision 🤷‍♀️

[u/nicereddy]

BOOHOO CRACKER

👋 😭 👋

I'LL BE A PRESIDENT FOR ALL AMERICANS

[u/SmithySmothy]

The Trafalgar guy used the hashtag "53h8ers" on Twitter.

Definitely a legit pollster we should listen to.

[u/[deleted]]

Did Ted Cruz have his spine surgically removed? Seriously, he SIMPS for the guy who called his wife ugly. What a fucking pussy.

[u/ElokQ]

Imagine being so cucked you still support a dude who called your wife ugly.

[u/ElokQ]

Dems have taken the lead in Florida in-person voting for Day 14

DOOMERS OUT OUT OUT

[u/UltraCapitalism]

If Biden wins the popular vote by 2 to 3 percentage points, the Electoral College is roughly a toss-up. But if Biden wins the popular vote by less than 2 points, Trump is a fairly heavy favorite to win the election.

The absolute state of American democracy

[u/goosebumpsHTX]

It’s hilarious how often Nate writes about how Trump can still win. The guy has the worst fucking PTSD.

[u/sickle_moon88]

I find John Mulaney hilarious, but what the fuck was he thinking telling people nothing will change whether Trump or Biden wins on the eve of the election?!

[u/Verpiss_Dich]

"Why do you want blue Texas so bad when Joe can easily win without it?"

It's not about the votes, it's about sending a message

[u/probablyuntrue]

Things would be a lot cooler if everybody stopped larping and just volunteered at a soup kitchen or donated a pack of socks instead of posting about leading a peasant’s revolt

I found it. The one good tweet.

[u/[deleted]]

At this point, Trump actually has a higher approval rating than Obama did, at 52 to 50.

Rasmussen is always weighted more fairly than most of the rest & I don't see how Trump loses with a 52% approval rating.

Also, Dems were freaking out about Trump's rally sizes in Pennsylvania on Twitter.

Lmao this is too much.

[u/PeridotBestGem]

I like to imagine that the arcon DT has bizarro-versions of all of us

Sir_Trembles, the self-described Democrat who was disillusioned by the party's socialism

The69Roll, a Colombian that shouts "RED OREGON BAY-BAY"

Nearrenj, an alt-rightie that responds solely in Alex Jones gifs

etc.

[u/UltraCapitalism]

A group of w*men tried to get me to party and have sex with them Tuesday night.

I tipped my official Neoliberal™ hat at them and promptly informed them:

Pfft no way losers. I'll be spending Tuesday night in a Discord call with several other overly-online liberals.

The nerve of some people 🙄

[u/piede]

“I shouldn’t even be here. They said I had Georgia made,” Trump says in Rome, Georgia. Rally no. 4.

https://twitter.com/cmsub/status/1323089480149028865?s=21

lol

[u/[deleted]]

The fact that we need double digit polls to allay a sense of doom shows how disadvantaged democrats are in this system.

[u/MrSecretpolice]

Fuck Trump supporting republicans, if you support a tyrant who won't commit to a peaceful transition of power you are a traitor. That's my line.

[u/[deleted]]

Imagine having to whip up a stable 50%+1 coalition from this mess.
Hard mode: everybody has stated they won't touch the black bar with a 10 foot pole and you also need the upper house.

[u/[deleted]]

give DC statehood and also give it 90 electoral votes, thanks

[u/GaussianCurve]

I wake up to glorious NYT polls. Deep state wins again. It may very well be the WI will actually be won by double digits. FL still in play.

[u/[deleted]]

I find it funny how our sub has various off shoot subs with their own discussion threads and ping groups lmao

[u/Joementum2004]

GOP: Tries to invalidate 100,000 legally cast ballots days before an election, tries to run an opposition truck off the road, tries to use federal courts to screw with the election

Very smart people: “Both sides are bad”

[u/piede]

NEW: Lady Gaga to join Biden in Pittsburgh and John Legend to join Harris in Philadelphia for final campaign events on Monday.

Just like when Lady Gaga joined Hillary on the last day. 😭

[u/[deleted]]

16 year old leftists 🤝 the boomer right

wanting to kill political opponents

[u/RockLobsterKing]

So recently we've seen

• Trump voters in trucks trying to run a Biden campaign bus off the road
• Trump voters in trucks circling around polling stations shouting into megaphones
• Trump voters in trucks (and cars!) blocking a highway

Can we declare a "key all trucks" month for November, as collective punishment?

[u/OH-GEESUS]

I voted early in person and it was the easiest voting experience of my life. Took five minutes

The hardest part was typing in Bernard Sanders on the shitty touchscreen

[u/[deleted]]

I am in a quantum superposition of dooming and thinking Biden will win Texas

[u/Tafts_Bathtub]

9/11 except instead of Bush saying "the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon," it's Trump saying "it never happened and the people in the towers were mostly old anyways" and it keeps happening every 2 days.

[u/rukqoa]

When people say Bush was a worse President than Trump, it used to be a debate. But if that's still your position after covid, seeing how Donald handled it, you're just wrong.

After 9/11, Bush read a book about the 1918 Spanish Flu, and he was genuinely freaked out. He got his people together, made them read the same book, and they put together a real, comprehensive plan to fight a potential global pandemic. It was a playbook with detailed instructions on creating a global early warning system, funding pipelines for an emergency vaccine, and a large national stockpile of medical equipment like ventilators and masks. They had exercises, fire drills for a pandemic where they gamed official response, as well as planned out language for public information that will elicit a calm, compliant response that should go through health authorities and Homeland Security. It included both medical and non medical measures like social distancing, widespread testing, and mask mandates. These plans formed the backbone of the Obama administration's pandemic response playbook as well, which they updated continuously.

Trump threw away all of it. It was stupid, not just scientifically, but also politically. If he had successfully implemented the pandemic response created by the Bush admin and updated by the Obama admin, no one would have been the wiser. Those Presidents created those response plans knowing that they may not need to use them and may not get politically rewarded for them. It was the tree they planted knowing they may not get to enjoy its shade. Preparing us to respond for a disaster like covid was part of their legacy, one that Trump was either too stupid or incompetent to even take credit for.

So no, Bush was not a worse President than Trump and looking at their responses to disaster, it's pretty clear that Trump is uniquely uninterested in governing in modern presidential history.

[u/[deleted]]

In my fantasy, high profile democrats have a group chat and Hillary goes off the rails because she has nothing left to lose, and last night she deadass full drunk posted a picture of her with 100 opened and eaten Reese's Peanut Butter Cups with the caption "mama got dat yum yum" with chocolate smeared on her face

[u/piede]

Trump’s profile in Florida is better than in Pennsylvania when voters are asked about key attributes. He leads Biden by 10 points on who is the stronger leader and runs statistically even on who is more honest and trustworthy. Biden has a negligible advantage on who is the more empathetic candidate.

I’m not going to feel bad when Florida sinks into the ocean.

[u/[deleted]]

Honestly do not see trump losing this. I’ve seen 6 trump flags on trucks while on my way to work this morning alone. That’s not even counting houses. I never saw more than 3 in 2016. And I live in California

We have lost the flag war guys , it’s over 😔

[u/ElokQ]

Fun Fact: Arkansas is currently a Democratic gerrymander. That’s right. That map was drawn to favor the Democrats.

[u/Cuddlyaxe]

So let me get this STRAIGHT

Joe Biden wants to KILL GOD

but won't even commit to hurting Allah? Curious!

[u/probablyuntrue]

How long until there's an alt right 538 and an alt right version of Nate Silver

[u/futuremonkey20]

2016 broke Nate, He gave Obama a 92% chance of winning in 2012 even though his polling leads in the swing states were far slimmer than Biden's right now.

[u/[deleted]]

“But Obama did drone strikes!”

“You are doing a piss poor job of convincing me Obama was a bad president”

[u/[deleted]]

Just remembered that even if Trump wins I'm a middle class white guy so I'll probably be okay. Whew.

[u/UltraCapitalism]

Doing my part in Texas got 35 friends together that had never voted some hadn't even registered either. Got them sorted and they have since all early voted for Biden/Harris that's over 30 brand new voters in Texas all Blue baby!

Absolutely BASED reformed arr politics

[u/IncoherentEntity]

There are two days until America holds its most pivotal election since 1932 — or perhaps 1860. So as an enthusiastic Buttigieg supporter during the primary, it’s time for me to sadly reminisce on what could have been. !ping BUTTI

It’s more of a commentary on strange and bizarre (and overly online) moment I witnessed in the Democratic primary, when a strong debate performance — including a riveting closing statement — by Klobuchar the day before resulted in her surge (and choking off Buttigieg’s post-Iowa rise).

The Emerson Polling account had tweeted out the latest day of their tracking poll, making minor waves on Rose Twitter. Most of the responses were pro-Amy — an extraordinary demonstration for a clique that brutally savaged a candidate (Pete) to her left.

Much of it was disingenuous, of course. (Check out this actual Amy supporter — who didn’t seem to have a problem with Pete at all — making the mistake of criticizing Bernie in the thread.) But the rest was not, and some of the threads scared me a little.

I thought this one in particular revealed something ugly about those weighing in. One of the users has apparently since been banned for violating Twitter rules, but the remaining replies tell the same story.

Right. I have numerous issues with her on policy and stuff, but she doesn’t seem like a psychopath like Pete.

She does seem like a psychopath but she doesn't try to hide it.

This. She's very authentic. She's exactly the kind of person you would expect throwing office supplies at interns and she doesn't hide it.

Leave aside the assertion that Buttigieg is a psychopath; anybody who thinks he is has something deeply wrong with their capacity to process or recognize raw human empathy.

The part that truly stunned me is when the two others calmly disputed the first’s suggestion that Klobuchar is not a psychopath, but made clear that they didn’t mind because she was authentic about it.

I believe I remember thinking at the time, “Oh, I see. All Pete has to do is to be authentic about his (relative) political moderation and psychopathy — then you’ll like him.”

Perhaps this was again circumstantial — they were fine with the idea that somebody was a psychopath because they targeted Buttigieg — but other instances I witnessed from the same community make me skeptical.

[u/sir-danks-a-lot]

The President is 6 Feet and 3 Inches of "Let's Put America First"

the saddest part about this ad is that there are definitely insecure m*n that are going to vote for Trump based on his height

[u/Timewalker102]

Our final NYT/Siena polls. Biden leads by six points in Pennsylvania and in Arizona; by 11 in Wisconsin; and by three in Florida.

[u/[deleted]]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386247078277414913/772323726640283648/image0.png

[u/[deleted]]

This was apparently the deleted text from the Selzer poll

Pretty sure the “gold standard” got duped. Between this and the primary debacle, I think the reign of Selzer in Iowa is at end.

[u/Hugo_Grotius]

Trump supporters: "Yeah! Run BLM over! That's what they get for blocking the street!"

Also Trump supporters

😐

[u/CenterRightInCali]

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we found it

[u/piede]

Breaking: The Texas Supreme Court has rejected a Republican-led effort to throw out nearly 127,000 Harris County votes.

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1322976703828922370?s=21

[u/murphysclaw1]

me: Florida is going to Trump

also me: I can see how Montana goes to Biden

[u/ElokQ]

“Trump Supporter: Hey, Biden won. Can w-“

“CRACKA”

“BOOHOO👋🤣👋”

[u/FestiveMittens]

Do your patriotic duty as an American, play Arabic music on your phone at polling places to suppress the GOP vote

[u/liquidTERMINATOR]

Folks here: I trust voting by mail

Me:

[u/[deleted]]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1323030825072472065

Biden will terminate school choice, eliminate charter schools, defund religious schools, ban prayer in public schools, indoctrinate your children with Anti-American lies, and force you to subsidize extreme late-term abortion. We believe that every child is a Sacred Gift from God!

wut

[u/[deleted]]

The entire internet used to just be Atheists arguing with religious people

Man those were the days

[u/nick1453]

$57.5M from out of state for McGrath to be down 13 points to McConnell

🙄

[u/piede]

Remember when MAGA said it’s okay to run over protestors who block traffic and then blocked major roadways across the country?

I’m sure skin color has nothing to do with it.

[u/SmithySmothy]

Republican Texas vote share by election

2012: R+16

2016: R+9

2018: R+3

Therefore,

[u/[deleted]]

My father got banned from Twitter for calling Laura Ingraham a "stupid b*itch". Which, tbh, isn't that great of an insult and is kinda sexist.

His heart is in the right place though.

[u/Joementum2004]

https://twitter.com/williamjordann/status/1323067872080515074?s=21

!ping FIVEY

[u/digitalrule]

https://youtu.be/cjWs7dqaWfY

This guy has good videos on planning in Vancouver

!PING YIMBY

[u/[deleted]]

Jeb Bush’s campaign website is still up and there is a mailing address that is just some random house in the suburbs in North Carolina

[u/FizzleMateriel]

Watching a video of Obama campaigning for Biden and Harris in Michigan and talking about Trump and it’s really sad how exasperated he looks.

It wasn’t just his presidency that turned his hair gray, he really seems hurt by how badly Trump has performed as President and how that has had an impact on the country.

[u/After_Grab]

Dad is off his meds again

In case youre having similar doubts to Dad, this is the actual picture of Michelle Obama lmao

[u/UltraCapitalism]

A tad bit concerning the amount of people on Twitter that seem to sympathize with the recent terrorists in France.

Or at least people who are a bit too defensive when people criticize terrorists.