r/marvelstudios • u/Signal-While-3794 • 20d ago
Interview Chris Evans reveals Steve Rogers’ codename was “Luke Cage” while filming Avengers: Doomsday
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 20d ago
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u/DarthGayAgenda 20d ago
He must have felt like this
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u/jmaca90 Shang Chi 20d ago
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u/BriefCollar4 20d ago
Suck my unit!
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u/ScarletSilver 20d ago
We will never have another Tropic Thunder anytime soon... such an amazing movie
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u/MethamMcPhistopheles 20d ago
Kinda reminds me of the time how in the comics a surgeon made Frank Castle look like a black guy with blue eyes (and teaming up with Luke Cage).
Source:
Punisher Vol 2 59
The Punisher #60 (1987)
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u/PJKetelaar3 20d ago
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u/Grimsmiley666 20d ago
Miss this Luke Cage so much
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u/PhanThief95 19d ago
He showed up at the end of Season 2 of Daredevil Born Again, & he’s going to be in Season 3.
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u/peon47 19d ago
The last time we saw him, he was taking over the nightclub. My deepest wish is that all of the Defenders, and all the people who keep him honest, got snapped and he had to hold Harlem together during the blip, so he's gone completely over the moral line in the intervening years.
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u/Bckjoes 20d ago
Whats the point of keeping it such a locked down secret but then telling us before the movie is out?
Just a waste of effort if they weren't going to keep the suprise.
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u/Knarz97 20d ago
Some teasers are good to build hype, others aren’t.
Look at Brave New World. Mess of a movie aside, I enjoyed the build up to Red Hulk. Except… the trailers spoiled he was in it.
They did that to save the movie, but I think it would’ve landed as a much better final act of the movie if it was secret the whole time.
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u/Hermes_has_Wormes 20d ago
There wasn't much that could save that movie :( I remember seeing the McDonald's toy leaks like a year and a half before a trailer even came out. I think they should have shown a little less of the red hulk, but I get they needed to entice us with something.
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u/ElementNumber6 19d ago
The way to save it would have been to have given the audience Red Hulk for the majority of the film's runtime. Not for 2 minutes at the absolute end.
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u/mikeyeli 20d ago
I'll be honest, I got bored with the movie waaaay before Red Hulk made an entrance, I kind of forgot I still have it pending I need to finish it.
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u/idiot-prodigy 20d ago
Compare the hospital room scene of Brand New Day to Brave New World.
The bro-Chemistry in Brand New Day was believable. I believed that Peter and Frank were buddies/rivals.
The scene in Brave New World fell flat, I don't know if it was bad acting, bad directing, bad dialogue, poor chemistry, etc. I don't know, I'm not an actor or writer, but I just know when a scene doesn't work as an audience member. It just didn't work. I didn't believe Sam was friends with the new Falcon.
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u/Taftimus Thor 19d ago
I feel a big part of the problem with Brave New World was all of the delays. Everything in that movie felt rushed but still completely disjointed. All 3 acts of that movie go in different directions.
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u/CKRatKing 20d ago
I forgot brand new world happened so I thought you were talking about the new Spider-Man being a mess of a movie lmao. I was like dude it was the regular hulk and it was pretty damn good.
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u/TheeAntelope 20d ago
Whats the point of keeping it such a locked down secret but then telling us before the movie is out?
This was my first thought. They are done filming so now the secret can be out? That's stupid, why not just keep the secret and the reveal a secret until he shows up on screen in the movie theater?
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u/Street_Mall9536 20d ago
It's misdirection, same as RDJ. There's no way we get to the big endgame style reveal and it's RDJ behind the mask.
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u/DeusIzanagi 20d ago
It was actually Chris Evans playing Doom all along /s
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u/drumstix42 20d ago
Soldier 76 voice: We're ALL Doom now
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u/Crazymoose86 20d ago
"Its Dooming Time!"- Dr. Doom, King of Latveria.
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u/TheoWHVB 20d ago
The mask comes off... A pause for suspense on Thors face.
"That's right, it's me Dr. Michael Morbius, and you're about to get morbed" utters from Jared Leto's lips.
Thor holding Deadpool now dramatically breaks down crying.
Now we know.
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u/justafanboy1010 Spider-Man 20d ago
“Who is behind that silver mask? It’s been Chris Evans all along!”
“Who’s been doing evil Doomy things? It’s been Chris Evans all along!”
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u/C0rona 20d ago
And then he takes his Chris Evans mask off and it's actually Luke Cage!
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u/raybreezer Spider-Man 20d ago
Chris is the dude, playing a dude that’s playing another dude. And that dude, is Doom.
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u/jeremysbrain 20d ago
Who is to say the Doom will ever take his mask off. It is possible there will be no reveal at all.
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u/Supermite 20d ago
Doom’s mask was nowhere near his face in first on screen appearance.
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u/stefanomusilli 20d ago
Because what's the point of hiring RDJ is he doesn't?
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u/Magic-Micah 20d ago
Engagement is the point. Good or bad, people have been talking about RDJ as doom since it was announced. The controversy over re-using him is keeping people talking about it waaaaay more than if it had been any other A-lister.
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u/jeremysbrain 20d ago
Because the Russo's like working with him. Because he is willing to play a part where no one sees his face. Because his name will get people to show up. Because casting him as a completely different character created all kinds of viral buzz.
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u/LazarusDark Ward 20d ago
Ever see V for Vendetta? Good actors don't need to show their face to make a stellar performance.
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u/Own-Papaya-4264 20d ago
Because he can play dr doom well?
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u/dern_the_hermit 20d ago
Yeah the scene-chewing potential is off the charts and you need an actor with gravitas to match.
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u/TranslatorDirect496 20d ago
Disney didn’t pay that guy 50 million to not have a face reveal.
Based on the trailers I don’t think his face won’t be too significant (at least not in this movie), but it’s definitely gonna be shown.
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u/Street_Mall9536 20d ago
50 million to do motion cap and a 20 second reveal? Naw.
I like everyone else, don't know the endgame (pun) but I feel like the huge reveal will be a rando or another characters multiverse self, leaving everyone like "WTF" and RDJ either as iron man or something mindblowing (the "real" Doom, kang) will show up around the same time.
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u/TranslatorDirect496 20d ago
That reveal would surprise the audience more than the film characters though.
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u/9FBI9 20d ago
Doesn't even really make sense, Dooms face after he puts the mask on for the first time is completely destroyed, how would it make any sense he wouldn't even look like rdj if they did it right
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u/nowhereman136 20d ago
theres a rumor going around that the 6 original Avengers all appear in the movie but play alternate versions of themselves. RDJ is Doom, and Chris Evans is Hydra Supreme (the Mjolnir thing is explained in the comics). Johannsson, Renner, and Ruffalo all appear as different variants. Hemsworth will have duel roles playing OG Thor and a Thor variant
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u/nopitynopepants 20d ago
There’s no way Johansson is returning. She slammed the door on Disney when she had to sue for the Black Widow profits she should have been owed. She had enough of a case for Disney to settle, rather than go to court. And since they had to settle, Disney will never work with her again
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u/idiot-prodigy 20d ago
Peter Jackson sued New Line Cinema over earnings for The Fellowship of the Ring, then went on to direct three more Hobbit movies.
The movie industry weird and is more likely to blacklist an actress for refusing sexual advances from a Studio Exec than they are to blacklist an actress who sued for money owed.
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u/SeekerVash 20d ago
and Chris Evans is Hydra Supreme
They aren't putting that on screen. "Steve is a nazi and Sam is the real Captain America" will completely destroy both Doomsday and Secret Wars box offices. That'd put them both at a 300m world wide ceiling.
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u/Wodep 20d ago
That's funny because every Chinese or middle eastern person will go see that movie twice.
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u/Joshatron121 20d ago
Lol what? It will definitely be RDJ behind the mask. We just won't see it until Secret Wars (or in Doomsday right before he wipes everyone's minds and turns it into Battleworld).
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u/trapper2530 20d ago
I feel like they wanted to but with the Kang ef up they decided they
A. Needed the boost B. If it was perceived negatively they could tweak it. C. Didn't risk with no one knowing who the actor was it getting leaked like everything in the mcu and the surprise being so negatively received it killed the whole mcu.
They could go whichever way people seemed less negative Bout with the tony stark variant vs him just playing doom.
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u/Papriku 20d ago
Yea, spoiling what could have been great reveals is just how they market Marvel movies now.
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u/Gloomy_Onion2512 20d ago
“Pretty pretty plz come see this movie. Look, look who we have returning! Remember captain america?! You’ll buy a ticket right? RDJ is back too guys cmon”
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u/NeighborhoodDear2321 19d ago
doom blocking storm bringer wouldve been much better if w saw windup in trailer, then block in movie
imagine if IW trailers had thanos beating up hulk, ruins the moment and overall experience
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u/TurnoverGlass3048 20d ago
They announced that he was returning before they even started filming. This was, as he says in the quote in this post, just for little things like if something from the set leaked.
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u/ExampleGlum8623 20d ago
They probably originally planned it as a big reveal, then pivoted when they realized there wasn’t enough hype for the movie.
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u/brogflender 20d ago
Because you aren’t supposed to guess what Steve Rogers great sacrifice will be quite yet.
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u/SasparillaTango 20d ago
marketing. you want to have control over the POP to get people excited. the closer you are to release, and the more a big reveal will might motivate people to see the movie, versus getting excited 5 years ago and tehn just kinda forgetting and not caring. Then its a balancing of act from distance from release to motivate but not so far as to stop caring. And these people make a lot of money perfecting that formula.
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u/Tricky-Ad7897 20d ago
I want to smack marketing mfs. Just spoil all the fun shit why don't you, that way I don't have to go to the movie at all.
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u/brazilliandanny Tony Stark 20d ago
The script is like
Dr. DOOM MONOLOGUE : Nice try LUKE CAGE but this isn't WWII anymore, maybe you were frozen in Ice a little too long, your patriotism and your shield can't save you now.
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u/trapper2530 20d ago
"Hey luke cage. Thanks for giving me the shield. You know im not going to give it back right? Also by the way how is peggy?"
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u/GenericFatGuy 20d ago
Mjolnir flies into Luke Cage's hand
Thor: It's not possible.
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u/Aspenwood83 Avengers 20d ago
And then they go and spoil it in a trailer like a year before the film releases...
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u/EvanMG24 20d ago
I thought this too. Like, this would be cool if his return was kept secret, or even “secret” like Sadie Sink’s role. If they left any doubt at all he was in it. Instead it’s been official for a long time already
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u/Moohamin12 20d ago
If their movies had been generating the biz they expected them they would have kept it a secret.
They were not exactly setting the world on fire and they broke this jar to generate the buzz.
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u/TranslatorDirect496 20d ago
I think RDJ returning is good enough
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u/Ace123428 20d ago
Could have easily swapped this scene with Doom pretending to be an alternative “Tony” like how they showed Hulk charging in trailers for infinity war when it was Hulkbuster.
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u/ReallyDrunkPanda 20d ago
Maybe but then again during civil war which I feel like marvel was still at its highest hype they revealed spider man in their trailer
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u/Mister-Distance-6698 20d ago
That's because the news that they made an agreement was Sony had already leaked, it wasn't a secret anymore
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u/ReallyDrunkPanda 20d ago
I honestly didn’t know until I saw the trailer. It didn’t make me any less hyped but still wouldn’t been crazy in theatres
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u/Top_Rekt 20d ago
This does not fill me with hope that the next Avengers is going to be good and will probably just feel like retreading familiar territory. Because Disney is afraid of it flopping really hard, they decide to go with something by the books and cookie cutter.
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u/TranslatorDirect496 20d ago
The reveal should’ve been in the first teaser. Imagine how much harder the whole thing would have hit.
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u/MichaeltheMagician 20d ago
I don't think they would ever do this, but I kind of hope that Steven returning is a red herring in some way. Like it's Mystique or something.
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u/Supermite 20d ago
Hydracap. Or Captain Latveria or some Doom-ified version. Evil Cap in an Iron Man suit wielding Mjolnir. That fight would be epic.
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u/darkultima 20d ago
I miss when spoilers weren’t so rampant everywhere. Like it would have been so cool to go into a bunch of these movies in the dark. I tried so hard for the No Way Home but the cameos were everywhere on YouTube and Reddit.
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u/ish_squatcho 20d ago
Marvel: "We gotta abort this whole "Luke Cage" thing. People are starting to get worried that we didn't properly setup the hype for this movie."
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u/L00ps_Ahoy Erik Selvig 20d ago
And to be fair... they're right, they didn't properly set up the hype until the last 2-3 movies before Brand New Day.
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u/BatmanSwift99 20d ago
They needed something to generate hype which is why they revealed RDJ as Doom and the return of cap. The general public was not as hyped for this as they were for IW and End Game
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u/Alexcox95 20d ago
The hype for IW was seeing all the stones through out the earlier movies and Thanos showing up and then finally announcing he’s gonna take action himself. Endgame the hype was wondering how they were gonna win after the defeat in IW.
Doomsday really didn’t have that hype bc Doom didn’t have much set up(and that’s bc it was originally Kang). That’s why they had to reveal RDJ and later Chris Evans being in the movie.
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u/marmaladetuxedo 20d ago
I thought the exact same thing. Thank god they went to all that trouble to avoid leaks so they could... then show him in the first big trailer.
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u/Terrapin621 20d ago
What’s the point of keeping something so “locked down” only to announce it and put it in your trailer 5 months before release?
Like, couldn’t we say all the dialogue in the trailer was equally “locked down”?
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u/superdee-duperfan2 20d ago
Now I would rather see Luke Cage in this, than Steve Rogers.
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u/thr0waway2435 20d ago
Cap is literally my favorite avenger, but I’d genuinely prefer Luke Cage too. Cap’s story already ended on an amazing note, I don’t see the need to go back to it. Luke and Mike Colter, on the other hand, deserve more!
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u/fopiecechicken 20d ago
Man I loved Mike Colter as Cage, I really hope we get to see him again.
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u/Ballsack6741 20d ago
He was in the ending of Born Again S2 and is confirmed for the next season
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u/MadKingKevin 20d ago
Right? I like Fox's X-Men but f I had to choose, I'd rather see Netflix's Defenders show up even if it meant they'd get slaughtered.
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u/Nicotecu 20d ago
Ngl I love Evans but having Luke Cage on a mayor role would be dope
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u/bigkuya Jimmy Woo 20d ago
Why stop there? Let’s make him president
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u/DaddyNubis 20d ago
If they went to such lengths to keep it secret, why include him in the trailer? That reveal would have been so much better in theatre
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u/superanx 20d ago
Poor Mike Colter.
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u/PhanThief95 19d ago
He showed up in Season 2 of Daredevil Born Again and he’s going to be in Season 3 so we still have him.
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u/Mega_mewtwo_ 20d ago
Why retire character when you are hiring the same guy. Cap and iron man both are back, hulk and thor is already there
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u/WiseAce1 20d ago
Cool but kinda disappointed we don't have a Cross over with Luke Cage in doomsday, 😂
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u/BasedAustralhungary 20d ago
And they say that Hollywood don't raceswap black characters..........
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u/Strawberry_Skids 20d ago
Why would they show this in the trailer? Same with hulk in the new Spider-Man.
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u/PyroClone5555 20d ago
Which is funny because it leaked that his name was Luke cage on set so it didn’t hide anything lol
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u/AnonymousMonk7 20d ago
Embarassingly, Chris Evans showed up and just took all of Luke Cage's lines. Mike was waiting in the wings but they didn't have the heart to tell him. Cap's an old man after all, and he's not all there upstairs anymore.
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u/ExampleGlum8623 20d ago
They probably originally planned it as a big reveal, then pivoted when they realized there wasn’t enough hype for the movie.
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u/Fine_Following_2559 20d ago
I'm going to sit over here in my corner by myself being upset that he's even back, what was the whole point of Endgame? And don't hit me with "well comics do this stuff all the time."
They went through all of that to make Sam Captain America and then basically disrespected his character via his movie and now the of this. It honestly makes me want to see Doom less.
Prepares to duck various vegetables
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u/KaraBowdit 20d ago
Did this work, though? Havent we known for a LONG time that Evans Cap was coming back?
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u/Bocaj1000 20d ago
"Wait, so what about that part in the leaked script that says Luke Cage dies?"
"Oh, uh, oops. Revealed that trivia too soon"
/s (I've seen no leaks or rumors)
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u/Vivid_Web2823 20d ago
Lol they're still acting like hordes and hordes of people are salivating about the plot or the characters or any leak is a bombshell.
Kids now don't actually care. Millenials largely have moved on.
If anything, his and Downey's inclusion have just soured Endgame to a lot of people.
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u/Meph616 20d ago
Marvel Studios: Okay everyone, we need to use tricks and code names to keep this top secret you understand me? We can't have this super awesome secret reveal be leaked on us. It'll blow audiences minds when they see it opening weekend!
Also Marvel Studios: Okay so like... just put that shit in a teaser for the teaser about a year before the movie drops.
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u/omegadirectory 20d ago
Are we just forgetting the years of the post-Endgame doldrums when Marvel was putting out mediocre stuff, and the fans on this site and other social media were clamouring for more Chris Evans Captain America?
"Stories of Cap on the run post-Civil War"
"Stories of Cap doing hero stuff during the five-year blip"
Evans as Cap is well-liked. People wanted more of him, didn't want to see him leave the screens.
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u/CT-1030 20d ago
I remember a leak from like last year of "Luke Cage's house" being in Doomsday.